Riverwalker Posted January 26, 2022 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 2 Topic Count: 92 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 2,054 Content Per Day: 0.60 Reputation: 1,753 Days Won: 4 Joined: 12/09/2014 Status: Offline Share Posted January 26, 2022 (edited) 51 minutes ago, missmuffet said: The Bible tells us that those in hell will be tormented by the fire forever and ever. That is for an eternity never ending. Just like those who are believers will be with God for an eternity. Those in hell with suffer for an eternity as well just in a different place. Eternity is a very long time, what purpose would God have in making anyone suffer forever. He came to save us, because he loved us. Those who reject God will go into the eternal second death.....God is a God of Justice.... the second death is Justice, eternal torment is not, it is also malicious, pettily vengeful and not at all what God is. And the bible ford not say they will be eternally tormented, but eternally punished, that is that the second death....will be forever. They will be removed from existence and we will go on to eternity Edited January 26, 2022 by Riverwalker 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
missmuffet Posted January 26, 2022 Group: Royal Member Followers: 34 Topic Count: 1,994 Topics Per Day: 0.48 Content Count: 48,692 Content Per Day: 11.74 Reputation: 30,343 Days Won: 226 Joined: 01/11/2013 Status: Offline Share Posted January 26, 2022 8 minutes ago, Riverwalker said: Eternity is a very long time, what purpose would God have in making anyone suffer forever. He came to save us, because he loved us. Those who reject God will go into the eternal second death.....God is a God of Justice.... the second death is Justice, eternal torment is not, it is also malicious, pettily vengeful and not at all what God is. And the bible ford not say they will be eternally tormented, but eternally punished, that is that the second death....will be forever. They will be removed from existence and we will go on to eternity God is a loving God but don't get fo0led He is also the God of wrath and judgement for those who do not believe in Jesus Christ. I am afraid River if you say a person who goes to hell will be annihilated and will not have to suffer eternal punishment you are dealing with false teaching. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riverwalker Posted January 26, 2022 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 2 Topic Count: 92 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 2,054 Content Per Day: 0.60 Reputation: 1,753 Days Won: 4 Joined: 12/09/2014 Status: Offline Share Posted January 26, 2022 14 minutes ago, missmuffet said: God is a loving God but don't get fo0led He is also the God of wrath and judgement for those who do not believe in Jesus Christ. I am afraid River if you say a person who goes to hell will be annihilated and will not have to suffer eternal punishment you are dealing with false teaching. The punishment is eternal...there is no coming back from the second death which revelation says follows hell and judgment day in the lake of fire No what I am objecting to is what cannot be found in the bible....eternal torment 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
missmuffet Posted January 26, 2022 Group: Royal Member Followers: 34 Topic Count: 1,994 Topics Per Day: 0.48 Content Count: 48,692 Content Per Day: 11.74 Reputation: 30,343 Days Won: 226 Joined: 01/11/2013 Status: Offline Share Posted January 26, 2022 1 minute ago, Riverwalker said: The punishment is eternal...there is no coming back from the second death which revelation says follows hell and judgment day in the lake of fire No what I am objecting to is what cannot be found in the bible....eternal torment Do you believe in the Holy Trinity? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riverwalker Posted January 26, 2022 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 2 Topic Count: 92 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 2,054 Content Per Day: 0.60 Reputation: 1,753 Days Won: 4 Joined: 12/09/2014 Status: Offline Share Posted January 26, 2022 3 minutes ago, missmuffet said: Do you believe in the Holy Trinity? While the word Trinity is not found in the bible the concept is all over it The concept of eternal torment and devils with pitchforks is only found in works of fiction like Dante's Inferno Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
missmuffet Posted January 26, 2022 Group: Royal Member Followers: 34 Topic Count: 1,994 Topics Per Day: 0.48 Content Count: 48,692 Content Per Day: 11.74 Reputation: 30,343 Days Won: 226 Joined: 01/11/2013 Status: Offline Share Posted January 26, 2022 Just now, Riverwalker said: While the word Trinity is not found in the bible the concept is all over it The concept of eternal torment and devils with pitchforks is only found in works of fiction like Dante's Inferno I disagree. I do not support your theology on this. Satan would like you to believe such as you do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riverwalker Posted January 26, 2022 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 2 Topic Count: 92 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 2,054 Content Per Day: 0.60 Reputation: 1,753 Days Won: 4 Joined: 12/09/2014 Status: Offline Share Posted January 26, 2022 12 minutes ago, missmuffet said: I disagree. I do not support your theology on this. Satan would like you to believe such as you do. What does satan gain from my believing the annhilation of the lost? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
missmuffet Posted January 26, 2022 Group: Royal Member Followers: 34 Topic Count: 1,994 Topics Per Day: 0.48 Content Count: 48,692 Content Per Day: 11.74 Reputation: 30,343 Days Won: 226 Joined: 01/11/2013 Status: Offline Share Posted January 26, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, Riverwalker said: What does satan gain from my believing the annhilation of the lost? Satan doesn't want you to know the truth of what scripture teaches. I don't know if you are a pastor or teachers of God's Word. If you are you should be very careful because they will be judged very harshly. More so than the others. Edited January 27, 2022 by missmuffet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starise Posted January 27, 2022 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 13 Topic Count: 279 Topics Per Day: 0.20 Content Count: 13,129 Content Per Day: 9.63 Reputation: 13,682 Days Won: 149 Joined: 08/26/2020 Status: Offline Author Share Posted January 27, 2022 Do you believe gotquestions.org is ever wrong @missmuffet? I personally don't think they are right about everything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hobie_ Posted January 27, 2022 Group: Seventh Day Adventist Followers: 6 Topic Count: 11 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 1,786 Content Per Day: 0.33 Reputation: 717 Days Won: 0 Joined: 07/24/2009 Status: Offline Share Posted January 27, 2022 (edited) 39 minutes ago, missmuffet said: Satan doesn't want you to know the truth of what scripture teaches. I don't know if you are a pastor or teachers of God's Word. If you are you should be very careful because they will be judged very harshly. More so than the others. You are listing to a man, a minister or teacher, but ignoring what Gods Word teaches. We have to set aside preconceived notions, and false ideas and teachings that crept into the church and have set aside Gods Word and His truth. Edited January 27, 2022 by Hobie_ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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