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Long ago a prophet named Samuel spoke of what would happen after the people of Israel rejected the Lord as king and would chose a man to be thier king. This is the prophecy of Samuel concerning the future king of Israel. 

https://biblehub.com/1_samuel/8-17.htm

He will take a tenth of your flocks, and you yourselves will become his slaves. 

https://biblehub.com/1_samuel/8-18.htm

When that day comes, you will cry out for relief from the king you have chosen, but the Lord will not answer you in that day. 

 

I've read of kings who mark thier servants as a sign of ownership. Some kings demand taxes from thier subjects.

I know Benjamin Netanyahu (king Bibi) has set israel on a path to a cashless society and some progress has been made. The main purpose for the cashless society is for tax collection. Now that it appears Netanyahu will become (king Bibi) once again, how long will it take him to make the people of Israel his slaves? 

It really explains why Samuel said the Lord will not hear them after they become the slaves of the king of Israel. 

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https://biblehub.com/deuteronomy/17-14.htm

When you enter the land the Lord your God is giving you and have taken possession of it and settled in it, and you say"let us set a king over us like all the nations around us"

https://biblehub.com/deuteronomy/17-14.htm

Be sure to appoint over you a king the Lord your God chooses. He must be from your fellow Israelites. Do not place a foreigner over you, one who is not an Israelite. 

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If I'm not mistaken the Lord God has already chosen a king for Israel. 

 

https://biblehub.com/zechariah/9-9.htm

 

 

 

Does anyone see whats coming? 

Does anyone know what happens to Israel for choosing the Israeli goverment to rule over them insted of Christ? 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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It appears no one here seems to know what the Israeli goverment is in scripture. Even though the Israelis worship it at the time of the end. 

https://biblehub.com/niv/amos/5-26.htm

It is because of thier worship for the goverment they now have and it's symbol that they will be cast out of the kingdom of heaven and go into exile. 

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On 9/22/2022 at 7:26 PM, Shilohsfoal said:

Long ago a prophet named Samuel spoke of what would happen after the people of Israel rejected the Lord as king and would chose a man to be thier king. This is the prophecy of Samuel concerning the future king of Israel. 

https://biblehub.com/1_samuel/8-17.htm

He will take a tenth of your flocks, and you yourselves will become his slaves. 

https://biblehub.com/1_samuel/8-18.htm

When that day comes, you will cry out for relief from the king you have chosen, but the Lord will not answer you in that day. 

 

I've read of kings who mark thier servants as a sign of ownership. Some kings demand taxes from thier subjects.

I know Benjamin Netanyahu (king Bibi) has set israel on a path to a cashless society and some progress has been made. The main purpose for the cashless society is for tax collection. Now that it appears Netanyahu will become (king Bibi) once again, how long will it take him to make the people of Israel his slaves? 

It really explains why Samuel said the Lord will not hear them after they become the slaves of the king of Israel. 

It is true that God did not desire a human king over Israel, but made an exception for them and even warned them that having a King will mean that he will rule over your children and force them to become servants in his army and impose a taxes on them to fund his army and palaces, but this has always been true of all of Israel's kings since Saul, and not just under Netanyahu.

So Samuel told all the words of the LORD to the people who asked him for a king. And he said, "This will be the behavior of the king who will reign over you: He will take your sons and appoint [them] for his own chariots and [to be] his horsemen, and [some] will run before his chariots. "He will appoint captains over his thousands and captains over his fifties, [will set some] to plow his ground and reap his harvest, and [some] to make his weapons of war and equipment for his chariots. "He will take your daughters [to be] perfumers, cooks, and bakers. "And he will take the best of your fields, your vineyards, and your olive groves, and give [them] to his servants. "He will take a tenth of your grain and your vintage, and give it to his officers and servants. "And he will take your male servants, your female servants, your finest young men, and your donkeys, and put [them] to his work. "He will take a tenth of your sheep. And you will be his servants. "And you will cry out in that day because of your king whom you have chosen for yourselves, and the LORD will not hear you in that day." Nevertheless the people refused to obey the voice of Samuel; and they said, "No, but we will have a king over us, "that we also may be like all the nations, and that our king may judge us and go out before us and fight our battles." And Samuel heard all the words of the people, and he repeated them in the hearing of the LORD. So the LORD said to Samuel, "Heed their voice, and make them a king." And Samuel said to the men of Israel, "Every man go to his city." - 1Sa 8:10-22 

 

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2 minutes ago, Jedi4Yahweh said:

It is true that God did not desire a human king over Israel, but made an exception for them and even warned them that having a King will mean that he will rule over your children and force them to become servants in his army and impose a taxes on them to fund his army and palaces, but this has always been true of all of Israel's kings since Saul, and just under Netanyahu.

So Samuel told all the words of the LORD to the people who asked him for a king. And he said, "This will be the behavior of the king who will reign over you: He will take your sons and appoint [them] for his own chariots and [to be] his horsemen, and [some] will run before his chariots. "He will appoint captains over his thousands and captains over his fifties, [will set some] to plow his ground and reap his harvest, and [some] to make his weapons of war and equipment for his chariots. "He will take your daughters [to be] perfumers, cooks, and bakers. "And he will take the best of your fields, your vineyards, and your olive groves, and give [them] to his servants. "He will take a tenth of your grain and your vintage, and give it to his officers and servants. "And he will take your male servants, your female servants, your finest young men, and your donkeys, and put [them] to his work. "He will take a tenth of your sheep. And you will be his servants. "And you will cry out in that day because of your king whom you have chosen for yourselves, and the LORD will not hear you in that day." Nevertheless the people refused to obey the voice of Samuel; and they said, "No, but we will have a king over us, "that we also may be like all the nations, and that our king may judge us and go out before us and fight our battles." And Samuel heard all the words of the people, and he repeated them in the hearing of the LORD. So the LORD said to Samuel, "Heed their voice, and make them a king." And Samuel said to the men of Israel, "Every man go to his city." - 1Sa 8:10-22 

 

The king they have now was not given to them by Samuel or God. They have chosen this king for themselves. 

https://biblehub.com/niv/amos/5-26.htm

PS, the word Moloch is a semetic word which means king. 

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2 minutes ago, Shilohsfoal said:

PS, the word Moloch is a semetic word which means king

And Baal means Lord...what is your point?

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23 minutes ago, Jedi4Yahweh said:

And Baal means Lord...what is your point?

My oh my, we have a short memory. 

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On 9/22/2022 at 6:26 PM, Shilohsfoal said:

Now that it appears Netanyahu will become (king Bibi) once again, how long will it take him to make the people of Israel his slaves? 

Lots of pure speculation in this sentence. No real evidence to back it up. Even if a Netanyahu coalition is able to take power, it will be just another weak government with only a few-seat majority, with many enemies and backstabbers as usual.

But whoever runs the next government or governments, sooner or later the King of the north will occupy the land, per Daniel 11:41.

 

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