Dirt Eaters Posted September 24, 2022 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 15 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 225 Content Per Day: 0.37 Reputation: 114 Days Won: 0 Joined: 09/22/2022 Status: Offline Share Posted September 24, 2022 When people say "Faith alone brings us to our salvation" they are right. But there is a jump to the conclusion, that "Salvation" means Paradice. I know this is a bit nit picky, but i think there needs to be some serious clarification on this subject. As our Salvation is Jesus, not Heaven. Heaven is where we end up after recieving Jesus as Lord and Savior. Remember, Jesus states, "No One" can go to the Father but "through" me. And going through Jesus is not just knowing who He is. In other words. You can see Canada from Michigan looking through the Ambassador Bridge. You can know all there is to know about Canada and the Ambassador Bridge. But you have to go through the bridge to get to Canada. Just using this as an example. So, as Jesus is our Salvation, He is not Heaven. Also Jesus states in the Prayer He taught us. "Our Father, who is in Heaven". Like i said it is a bit nit picky. But there are huge ramifications. Scripture states "God is Love" Paul says, "faith without love, is like a gong clanging in the wind" Everyone uses the evidence of the thief on the cross. ( at Jesus death). What is so overlooked is one thing, the thief having compassion to Jesus. Faith brings us to Love, to Jesus. Now we have to recieve Jesus into our hearts. It is faith and love that take us to Heaven. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not me Posted September 24, 2022 Group: Royal Member Followers: 14 Topic Count: 515 Topics Per Day: 0.23 Content Count: 3,200 Content Per Day: 1.43 Reputation: 3,363 Days Won: 1 Joined: 04/06/2018 Status: Offline Share Posted September 24, 2022 33 minutes ago, Dirt Eaters said: When people say "Faith alone brings us to our salvation" they are right. But there is a jump to the conclusion, that "Salvation" means Paradice. I know this is a bit nit picky, but i think there needs to be some serious clarification on this subject. As our Salvation is Jesus, not Heaven. Heaven is where we end up after recieving Jesus as Lord and Savior. Remember, Jesus states, "No One" can go to the Father but "through" me. And going through Jesus is not just knowing who He is. In other words. You can see Canada from Michigan looking through the Ambassador Bridge. You can know all there is to know about Canada and the Ambassador Bridge. But you have to go through the bridge to get to Canada. Just using this as an example. So, as Jesus is our Salvation, He is not Heaven. Also Jesus states in the Prayer He taught us. "Our Father, who is in Heaven". Like i said it is a bit nit picky. But there are huge ramifications. Scripture states "God is Love" Paul says, "faith without love, is like a gong clanging in the wind" Everyone uses the evidence of the thief on the cross. ( at Jesus death). What is so overlooked is one thing, the thief having compassion to Jesus. Faith brings us to Love, to Jesus. Now we have to recieve Jesus into our hearts. It is faith and love that take us to Heaven. Thanks for sharing a bit of your relationship with Jesus, for He is teaching you inwardly…. May you be blessed and share that light and love with all you see…. In Him, Not me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R. Hartono Posted September 24, 2022 Group: Royal Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 778 Topics Per Day: 0.34 Content Count: 6,958 Content Per Day: 3.03 Reputation: 1,986 Days Won: 1 Joined: 02/15/2018 Status: Offline Share Posted September 24, 2022 Would people feel Jesus love in you ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirt Eaters Posted September 24, 2022 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 15 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 225 Content Per Day: 0.37 Reputation: 114 Days Won: 0 Joined: 09/22/2022 Status: Offline Author Share Posted September 24, 2022 52 minutes ago, R. Hartono said: Would people feel Jesus love in you ? Isnt this the fire, the fire of the Holy Spirit, that we claim when accepting Jesus as Lord and Savior? The very flame we are called to turn into a torch for all to see? <<< scripture Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NCAP Posted September 24, 2022 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 2 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 265 Content Per Day: 0.43 Reputation: 79 Days Won: 0 Joined: 09/19/2022 Status: Offline Share Posted September 24, 2022 6 hours ago, Dirt Eaters said: When people say "Faith alone brings us to our salvation" they are right. But there is a jump to the conclusion, that "Salvation" means Paradice. I know this is a bit nit picky, but i think there needs to be some serious clarification on this subject. Is faith alone one of your possessions? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirt Eaters Posted September 24, 2022 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 15 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 225 Content Per Day: 0.37 Reputation: 114 Days Won: 0 Joined: 09/22/2022 Status: Offline Author Share Posted September 24, 2022 4 minutes ago, NCAP said: Is faith alone one of your possessions? What do you mean by that ? Possessions? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirt Eaters Posted September 24, 2022 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 15 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 225 Content Per Day: 0.37 Reputation: 114 Days Won: 0 Joined: 09/22/2022 Status: Offline Author Share Posted September 24, 2022 6 minutes ago, NCAP said: Is faith alone one of your possessions? Would you expand some more with the question? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Selah7 Posted September 24, 2022 Group: Royal Member Followers: 11 Topic Count: 56 Topics Per Day: 0.05 Content Count: 2,610 Content Per Day: 2.37 Reputation: 3,183 Days Won: 11 Joined: 05/25/2021 Status: Offline Share Posted September 24, 2022 6 hours ago, Dirt Eaters said: When people say "Faith alone brings us to our salvation" they are right. But there is a jump to the conclusion, that "Salvation" means Paradice. I know this is a bit nit picky, but i think there needs to be some serious clarification on this subject. As our Salvation is Jesus, not Heaven. Heaven is where we end up after recieving Jesus as Lord and Savior. Remember, Jesus states, "No One" can go to the Father but "through" me. And going through Jesus is not just knowing who He is. In other words. You can see Canada from Michigan looking through the Ambassador Bridge. You can know all there is to know about Canada and the Ambassador Bridge. But you have to go through the bridge to get to Canada. Just using this as an example. So, as Jesus is our Salvation, He is not Heaven. Also Jesus states in the Prayer He taught us. "Our Father, who is in Heaven". Like i said it is a bit nit picky. But there are huge ramifications. Scripture states "God is Love" Paul says, "faith without love, is like a gong clanging in the wind" Everyone uses the evidence of the thief on the cross. ( at Jesus death). What is so overlooked is one thing, the thief having compassion to Jesus. Faith brings us to Love, to Jesus. Now we have to recieve Jesus into our hearts. It is faith and love that take us to Heaven. Amen and welcome, DE. "Nor is there salvation in any other, for there is no other name under heaven given among men by which we must be saved." - Acts 4:12 (NKJV) And that name is Jesus Christ, the Son of the Living God. Selah 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirt Eaters Posted September 24, 2022 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 15 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 225 Content Per Day: 0.37 Reputation: 114 Days Won: 0 Joined: 09/22/2022 Status: Offline Author Share Posted September 24, 2022 5 minutes ago, Selah7 said: Amen and welcome, DE. "Nor is there salvation in any other, for there is no other name under heaven given among men by which we must be saved." - Acts 4:12 (NKJV) And that name is Jesus Christ, the Son of the Living God. Selah But that just goes along with what i just said Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Selah7 Posted September 24, 2022 Group: Royal Member Followers: 11 Topic Count: 56 Topics Per Day: 0.05 Content Count: 2,610 Content Per Day: 2.37 Reputation: 3,183 Days Won: 11 Joined: 05/25/2021 Status: Offline Share Posted September 24, 2022 1 minute ago, Dirt Eaters said: But that just goes along with what i just said Of course! I was just adding a scripture, DE. Selah Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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