Bible Codes ??

[vja4Him]

Has anyone researched the Bible Codes? The more that I read about the Bible Codes, the more it seams that this is just another hoax and diversion from the more important things of the word of God.

-- vja4Him

[Guest ThomasIsUnderrated]

It is most certainly a scam. If you looked through a work even one-tenth of the Bible's length, you'd find thousands of "secret" words and phrases inside its pages.

[Guest Krakatua]

Greetings everyone.

At first the bible codes seemed like a profoundly powerful idea but yes it does seem to be nonsense. I renember a study was done on moby dick where htey placed the text under the same system that was apllied to the bible and within the first page they had "found" a reference to the assasination of JFK.

The bible code process is an extremely subjective one

[yomotalking]

However, how can the make it so......easy to fall for, in there?

[Guest freebird]

i think they r real

[M45510G1C]

So if I had the text "come unto me all ye who labor and are heavy laden...", and I was attempting to discover a piece of a supposed Bible code, not knowing said code ahead of time, I couldn't actually draw any conclusion whatsoever about what the supposed code would say, because it could say anything...

That is utterly false. Do you think that cryptographers must have a code in hand before they can begin to decipher a message written is said code? If that were the case I dunno how Bletchley Park ever woulda figured out that Wehrmacht Enigma.

Not sayin I do or don't believe in any sort of "Bible code" (really don't have much of an opinion, but am heavily skeptical).

[amazingrace]

I will repeat the same answer I aways give. The "Bible Codes" is divination re-packaged for Christian consumption. It is a doctrine of demons.

[yomotalking]

Demons?

What part do they play in Bible Codes?

[M45510G1C]

Agreed. Im pretty busy atm at work and I don't initially recognize that cipher, but I will crack it

(I at first though you made it easy with a rot-13 but I seem to have been mistaken, looks pretty simple tho shouldn't take long)

[yomotalking]

So if I had the text "come unto me all ye who labor and are heavy laden...", and I was attempting to discover a piece of a supposed Bible code, not knowing said code ahead of time, I couldn't actually draw any conclusion whatsoever about what the supposed code would say, because it could say anything...

That is utterly false. Do you think that cryptographers must have a code in hand before they can begin to decipher a message written is said code? If that were the case I dunno how Bletchley Park ever woulda figured out that Wehrmacht Enigma.

Not sayin I do or don't believe in any sort of "Bible code" (really don't have much of an opinion, but am heavily skeptical).

<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

No, cryptographers don't have to have a code ahead of time to break it, but they usually have several pieces of text intercepted from enemy transmissions over months and years to break a code, and look for patterns in how the certain characters or gropus of characters are altered, etc. This isn't always the case though. Also, if you are trying to decipher a code in the german language, then you would only consider results that produced german words, etc. There are ways of narrowing it down furtehr as well. If you suspect the information is intercepted combat orders and supply shipment figures, you would look for patterns that suggest lists, coordinates, proper names of you enemy commanders and units, proper names of locations, etc.

But "Bible Codes" have no basis for any of those common sense tools because they often force the code to say what they want it to say.

Try decyphering this text. it is a tongue twister that I have encrypted with a simple algorithm, and further more, the spacing is still correct, and the text has not been tranposed, only substituted.

QKB VFAQK PLZN PKFHHV PLUWE VEHBSP VFFH.

Have fun.

<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

Tell us the answer, then!