GerdaHannah Posted November 28, 2022 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 2 Topic Count: 159 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 295 Content Per Day: 0.04 Reputation: 70 Days Won: 0 Joined: 12/03/2005 Status: Offline Birthday: 08/26/1988 Author Share Posted November 28, 2022 On 11/27/2022 at 3:52 AM, ladypeartree said: Why do you think you still have to obey a man who caused both you and your son such suffering ? He is not being led away from the Lord by your actions indeed if you continue to obey his unreasonable demands he is going to keep thinking he is right . At the moment you are safe and have the ability to care for your son and feed him both in meat and in faith If you throw that away to move to a country that you KNOW will forbid your son to know the Lord then YOU are guilty of forcing him away from God YOU have a choice HE doesnt . Your husband made the choice to abandon you and to force ill health on both you and your son . HE made the4 choice to divorce you so why are you letting him continue to bully you both I wish I could stay here 😔. Unfortunately the health system is overburdened here, and my son is not getting the care he needs. He needs to meet a lot of specialists, but hasn't met anyone yet. We cannot pay to get care either because health care is fully government funded. Is there a verse that says I need not obey my spouse even in things concerning my son? If so, I would be so relieved. Does he not need to know about my son eating meat or being a Christian? Does my ex spouse have authority over my son? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GerdaHannah Posted November 28, 2022 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 2 Topic Count: 159 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 295 Content Per Day: 0.04 Reputation: 70 Days Won: 0 Joined: 12/03/2005 Status: Offline Birthday: 08/26/1988 Author Share Posted November 28, 2022 23 hours ago, TrueFollowerOfChrist said: This is a difficult situation to find yourself in. I'm sorry for your difficulties. In the Christian sense, I don't think you need permission from your ex husband. Your obedience to Jesus trumps any earthly loyalty. It is always right to raise your kids in the truth of God. In fact I would say it's a command of God. Eating meat is certainly not sinful, but if it offends your sons conscience, he should not be forced to do it. Romans says that something becomes sinful if you do it against your conscience even if the act isn't wrong in itself. If raising your son as a Christian would endanger him, make sure he is old enough to understand the risks and keep it inside the home secretly if needed. I pray for your situation and I hope you will let us know how things are going. God Bless. Thankyou, that is very practical advice. 1) I do not need my ex spouse permission (even in things concerning my son). - Is there a Bible verse that supports this? 2) if I keep my faith (and my son's faith) in the Lord a secret, is it a sin? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GerdaHannah Posted November 28, 2022 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 2 Topic Count: 159 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 295 Content Per Day: 0.04 Reputation: 70 Days Won: 0 Joined: 12/03/2005 Status: Offline Birthday: 08/26/1988 Author Share Posted November 28, 2022 I had a small win on Saturday. I mentioned in passing to my ex spouse that my son and I go to church (so that my son can take part in activities). He did not say anything, and thankfully did not forbid me. Please pray that he must convert to Christianity. That way,no matter where we are, my son and I can serve the Lord. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
farouk Posted November 28, 2022 Group: Royal Member Followers: 8 Topic Count: 26 Topics Per Day: 0.05 Content Count: 6,398 Content Per Day: 12.16 Reputation: 3,269 Days Won: 31 Joined: 11/18/2022 Status: Offline Share Posted November 28, 2022 2 hours ago, GerdaHannah said: I had a small win on Saturday. I mentioned in passing to my ex spouse that my son and I go to church (so that my son can take part in activities). He did not say anything, and thankfully did not forbid me. Please pray that he must convert to Christianity. That way,no matter where we are, my son and I can serve the Lord. Hi @GerdaHannah Keep praying................ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrueFollowerOfChrist Posted November 28, 2022 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 3 Topic Count: 9 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 1,039 Content Per Day: 1.62 Reputation: 589 Days Won: 0 Joined: 07/26/2022 Status: Offline Share Posted November 28, 2022 7 hours ago, GerdaHannah said: Thankyou, that is very practical advice. 1) I do not need my ex spouse permission (even in things concerning my son). - Is there a Bible verse that supports this? 2) if I keep my faith (and my son's faith) in the Lord a secret, is it a sin? I honestly can't quote one at this time, but I will look later and try to get one. However scripture seems clear that children are too be raised in the faith. This is supposed to be the fathers job as the head of the house, but since that's not possible in your situation, the duty would fall to you. Raising a child in the faith is a command, therefore your husband's feelings or permission in the matter are irrelevant. On your 2nd question, no its not a sin to keep your faith secret. For centuries the early Christians had to worship and meet in secret because it was illegal. God understands that some cultures are not as accepting of his followers as others. It's estimated that there are over 100 Million secret Christians in China who risk their freedom and lives to follow Jesus. That number may be similar in your country. Of course there are always martyrs in history too, people who refused to be secret, even if it cost them their lives. In all honesty, this is not something anyone on here can give you a concrete answer on. Pray about it and seek His wisdom. I believe you will be led correctly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Debp Posted November 29, 2022 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 52 Topic Count: 1,020 Topics Per Day: 0.15 Content Count: 12,312 Content Per Day: 1.80 Reputation: 16,367 Days Won: 92 Joined: 07/19/2005 Status: Offline Share Posted November 29, 2022 10 hours ago, GerdaHannah said: Even in India, my spouse let me get custody only because I have up child support Are you saying that in India your ex-husband would let you have custody because he wouldn't pay for child support? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Debp Posted November 29, 2022 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 52 Topic Count: 1,020 Topics Per Day: 0.15 Content Count: 12,312 Content Per Day: 1.80 Reputation: 16,367 Days Won: 92 Joined: 07/19/2005 Status: Offline Share Posted November 29, 2022 10 hours ago, GerdaHannah said: I wish I could stay here 😔. Unfortunately the health system is overburdened here, and my son is not getting the care he needs. He needs to meet a lot of specialists, but hasn't met anyone yet. We cannot pay to get care either because health care is fully government funded. If you weren't constrained to live near your ex-husband, I think the USA would be better re healthcare. Here people with no money (including illegal immigrants) get their healthcare for free. Those with some resources, I understand have options for low cost monthly medical premiums. I'm a senior citizen so not familiar with the low cost options, as I have Medicare (for seniors). 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Debp Posted November 29, 2022 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 52 Topic Count: 1,020 Topics Per Day: 0.15 Content Count: 12,312 Content Per Day: 1.80 Reputation: 16,367 Days Won: 92 Joined: 07/19/2005 Status: Offline Share Posted November 29, 2022 11 hours ago, GerdaHannah said: Is there a verse that says I need not obey my spouse even in things concerning my son? If so, I would be so relieved. Does he not need to know about my son eating meat or being a Christian? Does my ex spouse have authority over my son? @Alive maybe you have some input for GerdaHannah? As for me, I don't believe you should feel constrained to report these things to your ex-husband. He left you and your son. Raise your child as you wish in the Lord. Remember people like Corrie Ten Boom and others who hid Jews during World War 2? They were going against an evil government by hiding Jews and keeping quiet about it. But they felt in their conscience it was better than letting Jewish people be murdered. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alive Posted November 29, 2022 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 22 Topic Count: 194 Topics Per Day: 0.11 Content Count: 11,053 Content Per Day: 6.54 Reputation: 9,015 Days Won: 36 Joined: 09/12/2019 Status: Offline Birthday: 01/09/1956 Share Posted November 29, 2022 On 11/27/2022 at 10:43 AM, Alive said: “For the unbelieving husband is made holy because of his wife, and the unbelieving wife is made holy because of her husband. Otherwise your children would be unclean, but as it is, they are holy. But if the unbelieving partner separates, let it be so. In such cases the brother or sister is not enslaved. God has called you to peace. For how do you know, wife, whether you will save your husband? Or how do you know, husband, whether you will save your wife?” (1 Corinthians 7:14–16 ESVi) This is the most clear relevant scripture for guidance. You are free to act as you see fit with the Lord’s guidance. You can trust Him to guide you. Please read Romans 8:28 and may our common Lord and Savior give you peace in the coming day. Many saints are praying with you..standing with you before the Throne of Grace. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not of the World Posted November 29, 2022 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 86 Topics Per Day: 0.15 Content Count: 1,060 Content Per Day: 1.88 Reputation: 456 Days Won: 1 Joined: 10/12/2022 Status: Offline Share Posted November 29, 2022 45 minutes ago, Debp said: Here people with no money (including illegal immigrants) get their healthcare for free. That's not accurate. I know a woman that is here illegally and that needs a hysterectomy but can't get one unless it's a life-threatening emergency. Also, she does not have access to routine doctor visits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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