Guest Posted January 10, 2023 Share Posted January 10, 2023 2 minutes ago, Dennis1209 said: Short of documenting Hebrew word meanings, usage, and the context in Genesis, animals with the breath of life also have souls. Animal souls are not redeemable, as far as I know. Again, the question is, how much can our DNA be altered before we cease to be fully human? Is altered DNA from our kind redeemable? I am not well versed in genetics, but if I recall, we share 90% plus of our DNA code will most living creatures. Science does not know what most DNA does or is for, calling it junk DNA. This generation will see how all this turns out. If you look at DNA as I do, a programming language, the code percentage isn't really that important. I am a fan of Dr. Stephen C. Meyer's outlook on DNA. If DNA is just a programming language, it's no different than all the programs written in C, C++, or any other. We share 60% of our DNA with a banana, 97% with a chimpanzee, 60% with a fruit fly, and 60% with a chicken. Interesting relatives. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jayne Posted January 10, 2023 Group: Royal Member Followers: 16 Topic Count: 108 Topics Per Day: 0.04 Content Count: 3,825 Content Per Day: 1.29 Reputation: 4,815 Days Won: 2 Joined: 03/31/2016 Status: Offline Share Posted January 10, 2023 On 1/8/2023 at 8:05 AM, Saved.One.by.Grace said: We have been talking about the Spirit and Soul from a Hebrew viewpoint, but does that mean from a scientific point of view? If human cloning is ever perfected, will the clone have a full measure of God's breath forming the soul and when does the Spirit arrive, if ever, in the process? If there are multiple clones, will each be unique? What say you? Identical twins - one is a clone of the other, literally and naturally. They both have souls. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 10, 2023 Share Posted January 10, 2023 (edited) 6 hours ago, Jayne said: Identical twins - one is a clone of the other, literally and naturally. They both have souls. Do they both have unique spirits and unique souls? Edited January 11, 2023 by Saved.One.by.Grace Clarified question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jayne Posted January 10, 2023 Group: Royal Member Followers: 16 Topic Count: 108 Topics Per Day: 0.04 Content Count: 3,825 Content Per Day: 1.29 Reputation: 4,815 Days Won: 2 Joined: 03/31/2016 Status: Offline Share Posted January 10, 2023 1 minute ago, Saved.One.by.Grace said: Do they both have spirits? Yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teddyv Posted January 10, 2023 Group: Royal Member Followers: 6 Topic Count: 6 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 4,265 Content Per Day: 2.90 Reputation: 2,302 Days Won: 1 Joined: 05/03/2020 Status: Offline Share Posted January 10, 2023 3 minutes ago, Jayne said: Yes. So with IVF, is it the same thing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 10, 2023 Share Posted January 10, 2023 1 minute ago, Jayne said: Yes. So one twin inserts a Soul and/or Spirit into the other? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jayne Posted January 10, 2023 Group: Royal Member Followers: 16 Topic Count: 108 Topics Per Day: 0.04 Content Count: 3,825 Content Per Day: 1.29 Reputation: 4,815 Days Won: 2 Joined: 03/31/2016 Status: Offline Share Posted January 10, 2023 2 minutes ago, teddyv said: So with IVF, is it the same thing? Not exactly the same, but very similar. In both cases, fertilization of an egg cell takes place outside the body. In IVF, a sperm/egg are put together outside the body. In cloning, the contents of an already fertilized cell [could be blood, skin, or hair cell etc] are removed and put into an emptied out egg cell. Only God is in charge of whether or not these cells carry out to term. Ergo, if they do, there are souls/spirits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jayne Posted January 10, 2023 Group: Royal Member Followers: 16 Topic Count: 108 Topics Per Day: 0.04 Content Count: 3,825 Content Per Day: 1.29 Reputation: 4,815 Days Won: 2 Joined: 03/31/2016 Status: Offline Share Posted January 10, 2023 6 minutes ago, Saved.One.by.Grace said: So one twin inserts a Soul and/or Spirit into the other? No. God does that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teddyv Posted January 10, 2023 Group: Royal Member Followers: 6 Topic Count: 6 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 4,265 Content Per Day: 2.90 Reputation: 2,302 Days Won: 1 Joined: 05/03/2020 Status: Offline Share Posted January 10, 2023 22 minutes ago, Jayne said: Only God is in charge of whether or not these cells carry out to term. Ergo, if they do, there are souls/spirits. So for the billions of women over history that have miscarried billions of potential humans....? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeyondET Posted January 10, 2023 Group: Royal Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 118 Topics Per Day: 0.05 Content Count: 2,874 Content Per Day: 1.22 Reputation: 816 Days Won: 0 Joined: 11/29/2017 Status: Offline Birthday: 04/01/1968 Share Posted January 10, 2023 3 hours ago, Dennis1209 said: What does it mean to be 100% human? Christ died for humanity; what about hybrids? · Are there restrictions on who is eligible for redemption (think MOB)? They take something irreversible; we could even call it an unpardonable sin. These are interesting theological questions to contemplate. That's an interesting one, about 50% is 100% human technically we are hybrids already. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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