RdJ Posted March 28 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 68 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 1,181 Content Per Day: 0.38 Reputation: 675 Days Won: 0 Joined: 10/11/2015 Status: Offline Birthday: 05/25/1970 Share Posted March 28 https://earthathome.org/de/plate-tectonics/evidence/ The hypothesis that the continents were once connected also helps to better explain the glacial striations and tills found in South America, Africa, India, and Australia. This body of evidence suggests that these areas were once connected and covered by glacial ice, which flowed outwards from Antarctica. Geologists refer to this collection of once-connected southern continents as Gondwana. Gondwana was a major component of Pangea, which fully formed at the end of the Paleozoic era. So after the flood there was an ice age and it was still connected. That was while Job lived. And then it split. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eman_3 Posted April 19 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 2 Topic Count: 2 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 187 Content Per Day: 0.11 Reputation: 46 Days Won: 0 Joined: 11/10/2019 Status: Offline Share Posted April 19 On 1/23/2023 at 2:35 PM, dad2 said: How would we even know that the laws of nature were identical then? Consistency from external observations. For example, the spectrogram from a star a billion light years away displays the very same and rational signs as our Sun. All evidence, whether fossils or oil or spectrograms have firmly convinced the scientific community that the law of physics are universal everywhere and have been the same since the rapid expansion of the universe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dad2 Posted April 19 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 18 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 1,512 Content Per Day: 0.96 Reputation: 185 Days Won: 0 Joined: 01/28/2020 Status: Offline Author Share Posted April 19 Quote Consistency from external observations. For example, the spectrogram from a star a billion light years away displays the very same and rational signs as our Sun. That is light seen here inside this solar system. It tells us nothing about what time is like out there. So we can say that info in light seen and interpreted here seems to make sense here. It does not mean that light takes great time to get here. Therefore it has nothing to do with any deep time past. Quote All evidence, whether fossils or oil or spectrograms have firmly convinced the scientific community that the law of physics are universal everywhere and have been the same since the rapid expansion of the universe. Belief foisted on all evidence makes the evidences look old to the died on the wool true believers in the same nature in the past religion. Of course. The rapid expansion is a pipe dream by the way, totally faith based and foolish. I kid you not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Barbarian Posted May 6 Group: Royal Member Followers: 3 Topic Count: 27 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 5,082 Content Per Day: 0.67 Reputation: 974 Days Won: 0 Joined: 06/20/2003 Status: Online Share Posted May 6 On 4/19/2024 at 5:50 PM, dad2 said: That is light seen here inside this solar system. It tells us nothing about what time is like out there. Actually, it does. As noted, we see the same processes happening in the solar system, happening in other systems. Imagining that there's some magic differences, with no evidence whatever for that, is just feeble excuse-making. Why not just accept creation as God made it? Belief foisted on all evidence makes the evidences look young to the died on the wool true believers in the creationist religion. See how easy it is to reverse name-calling? So long as you ignore scripture and the evidence, that's how it will go for you. Set aside your pride, and try to deal with the reality God has given you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Barbarian Posted May 6 Group: Royal Member Followers: 3 Topic Count: 27 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 5,082 Content Per Day: 0.67 Reputation: 974 Days Won: 0 Joined: 06/20/2003 Status: Online Share Posted May 6 On 1/23/2023 at 1:03 PM, teddyv said: Of course not all organisms will leave remains. But to date, there is no evidence of humans intermixed with dinosaurs. Ancient dinosaurs, no. But I had a nice meal of fried dinosaur recently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dad2 Posted May 6 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 18 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 1,512 Content Per Day: 0.96 Reputation: 185 Days Won: 0 Joined: 01/28/2020 Status: Offline Author Share Posted May 6 (edited) Quote Actually, it does. As noted, we see the same processes happening in the solar system, happening in other systems. That does not change the fact that all light and time and movements are observed only here. It matters not at all, that laws operate here a certain way or that time exists a certain way here. Seeing that a light signature coming from the far universe contains hydrogen does not change anything about what time or space are like out there. To have light TAKE millions of years of time to get to us, would mean that time had to exist out THERE (and space) as we experience and know it here. Here where we cannot leave. Here where we have never been anywhere else. Here in the one point of reference in the universe we have. Quote Belief foisted on all evidence makes the evidences look young to the died on the wool true believers Exactly. ALL use beliefs and we should not conflate that with knowledge or fact or science Edited May 6 by dad2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Barbarian Posted Sunday at 12:51 PM Group: Royal Member Followers: 3 Topic Count: 27 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 5,082 Content Per Day: 0.67 Reputation: 974 Days Won: 0 Joined: 06/20/2003 Status: Online Share Posted Sunday at 12:51 PM (edited) On 4/19/2024 at 5:50 PM, dad2 said: That is light seen here inside this solar system. It tells us nothing about what time is like out there. Actually, we know it's the same. Voyager 1 is outside the solar system, and physics works exactly the same there as it does here. Maybe you can retreat to "sure, in our galaxy, but we can't know how it is in other galaxies." But that wouldn't work, either, for reasons we can discuss if you'd like. So long as you ignore scripture and the evidence, that's how it will go for you. Set aside your pride, and try to deal with the reality God has given you. Edited Sunday at 12:52 PM by The Barbarian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dad2 Posted 9 hours ago Group: Diamond Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 18 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 1,512 Content Per Day: 0.96 Reputation: 185 Days Won: 0 Joined: 01/28/2020 Status: Offline Author Share Posted 9 hours ago On 5/12/2024 at 5:51 AM, The Barbarian said: Actually, we know it's the same. Voyager 1 is outside the solar system, and physics works exactly the same there as it does here. Maybe you can retreat to "sure, in our galaxy, but we can't know how it is in other galaxies." But that wouldn't work, either, for reasons we can discuss if you'd like. So long as you ignore scripture and the evidence, that's how it will go for you. Set aside your pride, and try to deal with the reality God has given you. Actually ( the time anomaly with both craft aside) neither Voyager is even one light day away yet. Sorry if you thought that represented time in the far universe. Hahaha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Barbarian Posted 5 hours ago Group: Royal Member Followers: 3 Topic Count: 27 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 5,082 Content Per Day: 0.67 Reputation: 974 Days Won: 0 Joined: 06/20/2003 Status: Online Share Posted 5 hours ago 3 hours ago, dad2 said: Actually ( the time anomaly with both craft aside) neither Voyager is even one light day away yet. It has, however, passed the heliopause, and is therefore outside the solar system and in interstellar space. https://www.nature.com/articles/s41550-023-01923-z It turns out, that interstellar space has physical laws that are identical to those in the solar system. 3 hours ago, dad2 said: Hahaha Yep. Remember when I told you that not knowing what you're talking about can bite you? It just did again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dad2 Posted 4 hours ago Group: Diamond Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 18 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 1,512 Content Per Day: 0.96 Reputation: 185 Days Won: 0 Joined: 01/28/2020 Status: Offline Author Share Posted 4 hours ago Quote It has, however, passed the heliopause, and is therefore outside the solar system and in interstellar space. Doesn't matter at all. It is still both in the area of the solar system, and less than one lousy light day away. Period. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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