RV_Wizard Posted March 27 Group: Senior Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 6 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 773 Content Per Day: 0.83 Reputation: 327 Days Won: 0 Joined: 10/22/2021 Status: Offline Birthday: 09/05/1962 Share Posted March 27 5 hours ago, BeyondET said: A lobster fisherman got swallowed by a humpback whale afew years back. He lived to tell about it. No. The whale had him in its mouth. He was not swallowed. source Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RV_Wizard Posted March 27 Group: Senior Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 6 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 773 Content Per Day: 0.83 Reputation: 327 Days Won: 0 Joined: 10/22/2021 Status: Offline Birthday: 09/05/1962 Share Posted March 27 6 hours ago, The Barbarian said: And kind David says that God brought him up from the place of the dead. David wrote psalms and poetry. He may have been depressed and in bad spirits, but his heart didn't quit beating until he died. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Barbarian Posted March 27 Group: Royal Member Followers: 3 Topic Count: 27 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 5,074 Content Per Day: 0.67 Reputation: 970 Days Won: 0 Joined: 06/20/2003 Status: Offline Share Posted March 27 King David wites: Psalms 30:1 I will exalt you, Lord, for you lifted me out of the depths and did not let my enemies gloat over me. 2 Lord my God, I called to you for help, and you healed me. 3 You, Lord, brought me up from the realm of the dead; you spared me from going down to the pit. This does not mean King David died, and it does not mean that Jonah died. You merely added that idea to His word for your own desires. C'mon. Do you not see that the whale saved him from drowning? He had fallen to the depths of the sea about to drown,when the whale came in and saved him. God was not done with him and had a job for him to do in Nineveh. God was determined that the people of Nineveh would repent, and Jonah was His instrument. He would not cast aside the instrument until his purpose was fulfilled. And when Jonah called on the Lord for help, the whale safely returned him to land. 53 minutes ago, RV_Wizard said: David wrote psalms and poetry. He may have been depressed and in bad spirits, but his heart didn't quit beating until he died. Which is how we know Jonah did not die. He used exactly the words David used. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeyondET Posted March 27 Group: Royal Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 118 Topics Per Day: 0.05 Content Count: 2,869 Content Per Day: 1.22 Reputation: 816 Days Won: 0 Joined: 11/29/2017 Status: Offline Birthday: 04/01/1968 Share Posted March 27 (edited) 2 hours ago, RV_Wizard said: No. The whale had him in its mouth. He was not swallowed. source And Jonah couldn't have been in the same situation in the mouth of a whale? The lobster hunter didn't make it to the stomach but he got swallowed up in the mouth. Edited March 27 by BeyondET Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RV_Wizard Posted March 27 Group: Senior Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 6 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 773 Content Per Day: 0.83 Reputation: 327 Days Won: 0 Joined: 10/22/2021 Status: Offline Birthday: 09/05/1962 Share Posted March 27 7 hours ago, The Barbarian said: Which is how we know Jonah did not die. He used exactly the words David used. I'm not sure any of this makes a difference. Jonah said that he was actually dead in in Shoel. David was in despair. Jonah is used as an analogy to Jesus Christ. King David could have used a Prozak. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RV_Wizard Posted March 27 Group: Senior Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 6 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 773 Content Per Day: 0.83 Reputation: 327 Days Won: 0 Joined: 10/22/2021 Status: Offline Birthday: 09/05/1962 Share Posted March 27 5 hours ago, BeyondET said: And Jonah couldn't have been in the same situation in the mouth of a whale? Possible, but Jonah said he was in the belly of hell, not the mouth. Either way, survival three days in the belly of a whale is equally as impossible as dying and coming back to life. Resurrection, by the way, happens 10 times in the Bible; proving that God has authority over death. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Barbarian Posted March 27 Group: Royal Member Followers: 3 Topic Count: 27 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 5,074 Content Per Day: 0.67 Reputation: 970 Days Won: 0 Joined: 06/20/2003 Status: Offline Share Posted March 27 (edited) 4 hours ago, RV_Wizard said: Jonah said that he was actually dead in in Shoel. No. "Actually dead" is your addition to God's word to make it acceptable to you. We know Jonah did not die. He used exactly the words David used. Edited March 27 by The Barbarian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RV_Wizard Posted March 28 Group: Senior Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 6 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 773 Content Per Day: 0.83 Reputation: 327 Days Won: 0 Joined: 10/22/2021 Status: Offline Birthday: 09/05/1962 Share Posted March 28 9 hours ago, The Barbarian said: We know Jonah did not die. You don't know anything of the kind. Matthew 38:40 For as Jonas was three days and three nights in the whale's belly; so shall the Son of man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth. As I posted earlier, there are arguments for and against a death and resurrection. Jonah's words indicate that he was in Shoel. Maybe he was in a coma, so with slowed breathing he didn't exhaust the limited oxygen. Maybe he died and was brought out of Shoel by God. Either point could be argued, but you don't KNOW anything for sure. You just think you do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RV_Wizard Posted March 28 Group: Senior Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 6 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 773 Content Per Day: 0.83 Reputation: 327 Days Won: 0 Joined: 10/22/2021 Status: Offline Birthday: 09/05/1962 Share Posted March 28 9 hours ago, The Barbarian said: "Actually dead" is your addition to God's word That's just another of your many lies. Jonah said, "out of the belly of hell cried I, and thou heardest my voice." That was Jonah, not I. Living people do NOT go to Shoel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Barbarian Posted March 28 Group: Royal Member Followers: 3 Topic Count: 27 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 5,074 Content Per Day: 0.67 Reputation: 970 Days Won: 0 Joined: 06/20/2003 Status: Offline Share Posted March 28 "Actually dead" is your addition to God's word 1 hour ago, RV_Wizard said: That's just another of your many lies. Jonah said, "out of the belly of hell cried I, and thou heardest my voice." So no "actually dead?" That's what I told you. Notice that David used the same words. Are you claiming that David died and was resurrected? 1 hour ago, RV_Wizard said: Living people do NOT go to Shoel. And yet David said: Psalms 30:1 I will exalt you, Lord, for you lifted me out of the depths and did not let my enemies gloat over me. 2 Lord my God, I called to you for help, and you healed me. 3 You, Lord, brought me up from the realm of the dead; you spared me from going down to the pit. You can't have it both ways. So which is it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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