kenny2212 Posted March 20, 2023 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 3 Topic Count: 49 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 359 Content Per Day: 0.14 Reputation: 101 Days Won: 0 Joined: 01/27/2017 Status: Offline Author Share Posted March 20, 2023 2 hours ago, DeighAnn said: Yes Okay. Thank you! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenny2212 Posted March 20, 2023 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 3 Topic Count: 49 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 359 Content Per Day: 0.14 Reputation: 101 Days Won: 0 Joined: 01/27/2017 Status: Offline Author Share Posted March 20, 2023 18 minutes ago, truth7t7 said: Your living in a fairy tale, the scripture is straightforward concerning eternal torment in the lake of fire Isaiah 66:24KJV 24 And they shall go forth, and look upon the carcases of the men that have transgressed against me: for their worm shall not die, neither shall their fire be quenched; and they shall be an abhorring unto all flesh. DeighAnn says Isaiah 66:24 refers to the Millennium. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FreeGrace Posted March 20, 2023 Group: Royal Member Followers: 4 Topic Count: 8 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 4,448 Content Per Day: 8.18 Reputation: 611 Days Won: 0 Joined: 11/07/2022 Status: Offline Share Posted March 20, 2023 1 hour ago, DeighAnn said: FreeGrace said: The Bible COUNTS them as TWO.  That proves that they are human beings. Glad I could humor you.  If you can prove the "beast and FP" aren't individuals but rather groups or systems, or whatever, please, be my guest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Selah7 Posted March 20, 2023 Group: Royal Member Followers: 11 Topic Count: 56 Topics Per Day: 0.05 Content Count: 2,610 Content Per Day: 2.43 Reputation: 3,182 Days Won: 11 Joined: 05/25/2021 Status: Offline Share Posted March 20, 2023 So do those supposedly forever-tormented people feel any pain from that eternal fire? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenny2212 Posted March 21, 2023 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 3 Topic Count: 49 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 359 Content Per Day: 0.14 Reputation: 101 Days Won: 0 Joined: 01/27/2017 Status: Offline Author Share Posted March 21, 2023 6 hours ago, Selah7 said: So do those supposedly forever-tormented people feel any pain from that eternal fire? Torment wouldn't be torment if pain isn't felt. Or would it? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Selah7 Posted March 21, 2023 Group: Royal Member Followers: 11 Topic Count: 56 Topics Per Day: 0.05 Content Count: 2,610 Content Per Day: 2.43 Reputation: 3,182 Days Won: 11 Joined: 05/25/2021 Status: Offline Share Posted March 21, 2023 22 minutes ago, kenny2212 said: Torment wouldn't be torment if pain isn't felt. Or would it? Well, according to 1 Corinthians 15:52, we have all been changed into spiritual bodies, right? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeighAnn Posted March 21, 2023 Group: Royal Member Followers: 9 Topic Count: 84 Topics Per Day: 0.05 Content Count: 6,301 Content Per Day: 3.62 Reputation: 1,658 Days Won: 0 Joined: 07/31/2019 Status: Offline Share Posted March 21, 2023 8 hours ago, FreeGrace said: Glad I could humor you.  If you can prove the "beast and FP" aren't individuals but rather groups or systems, or whatever, please, be my guest. That's the beauty of just believing what is written as written. I don't have to prove or disprove anything, I just have to believe what is written.  YOU on the other hand, have doctrines that demand that Gods words either take on other meanings or get switched around or like you are doing here, putting upon those who's 2nd death takes place in the lake of fire the same eternal torment of the beast and the false prophet even though it is clearly stated their PART is death, NOT ETERNAL TORMENT.  They just take place in the same place, but they don't have the same punishment.  Little people who are like the grass haven't DECEIVED THE WHOLE WORLD. They may be 'of the devil' but THEY WERENT SINNING FROM THE BEGINNING.  NO ONE was worshipping them, they didn't rule and reign with him THEY WENT TO the store to BUY FOOD SO THEY COULD EAT.  Christ wasn't manifested to destroy the works of those deceived but THE WORKS OF THE DEVIL.  But, I could give you a billion reasons and none of them are ever going to make a dent.  I join the rest of them who will not be replying anymore.  So you just keep believing as you do, it obviously brings you lots of pleasure.   Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenny2212 Posted March 21, 2023 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 3 Topic Count: 49 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 359 Content Per Day: 0.14 Reputation: 101 Days Won: 0 Joined: 01/27/2017 Status: Offline Author Share Posted March 21, 2023 5 minutes ago, Selah7 said: Well, according to 1 Corinthians 15:52, we have all been changed into spiritual bodies, right? I think this excerpt refers only to believers. Although unbelievers also will be resurrected (Matt. 13:24-30). 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Selah7 Posted March 21, 2023 Group: Royal Member Followers: 11 Topic Count: 56 Topics Per Day: 0.05 Content Count: 2,610 Content Per Day: 2.43 Reputation: 3,182 Days Won: 11 Joined: 05/25/2021 Status: Offline Share Posted March 21, 2023 4 hours ago, kenny2212 said: I think this excerpt refers only to believers. Although unbelievers also will be resurrected (Matt. 13:24-30). Now this I say, brethren, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God; neither doth corruption inherit incorruption. Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed, In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed. For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality. - 1 Corinthians 15:50-53 (KJV) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FreeGrace Posted March 21, 2023 Group: Royal Member Followers: 4 Topic Count: 8 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 4,448 Content Per Day: 8.18 Reputation: 611 Days Won: 0 Joined: 11/07/2022 Status: Offline Share Posted March 21, 2023 (edited) 13 hours ago, Selah7 said: So do those supposedly forever-tormented people feel any pain from that eternal fire? Rev 20:10 is not a "supposedly" scenario. Â It is a real scenario. Define "torment". Edited March 21, 2023 by FreeGrace Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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