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  1. But the court which is without the temple leave out, and measure it not; for it is given unto the Gentiles: and the holy city shall they tread under foot forty and two months. 3 And I will give power unto my two witnesses, and they shall prophesy a thousand two hundred and threescore days, clothed in sackcloth. The reason why the time period of the two witnesses ministry is given in days could be because their ministry would be a day to day one. Anyways 42 months and 1260 days is the same.
  2. The period during which the two witnesses prophesy is the second half of the tribulation period. It's really very simple. Revelation 11:2-3 : But the court which is without the temple leave out, and measure it not; for it is given unto the Gentiles: and the holy city shall they tread under foot forty and two months. AND I will give power unto my two witnesses, and they shall prophesy a thousand two hundred and threescore days, clothed in sackcloth. From the passage it is clear that the two witnesses prophesy during the same time the Antichrist and his forces trample Jerusalem underfoot. Notice the conjunction AND tying verses 2 and 3 together. The Antichrist is peaceful during the first three-and-a-half years but becomes the beast for the second half of the tribulation period.
  3. I respectfully disagree, Hidden. Of course, the event is in the future. There is no need for Jesus to tell readers to understand what may have happened in the past. Jesus is God. Why would the almighty Jesus "prophesy" something that has already happened? Jesus was telling future readers to understand.
  4. To know which rapture view is correct; pre-trib, pre-wrath, mid-trib or post-trib, we need to understand the issue from its beginning. The dominant rapture view is the pre-trib rapture view. Since the rapture views are what we are trying to understand, we'll leave them for a while and go to the next important issue. The next important issue is the Antichrist. Just to be clear, God's wrath is not for his children. So IF believers are still here, God will find a way to protect believers from God's wrath. THE ANTICHRIST The Antichrist's first important act will be the signing of a peace treaty with Israel. Daniel 9:27 - He will confirm a covenant with many for one 'seven.' In the middle of the 'seven' he will put an end to sacrifice and offering. And at the temple he will set up an abomination that causes desolation, until the end that is decreed is poured out on him." The antichrist is going to sign a peace treaty with Israel for 7 years. In the midst of the 7 years he is going to break the treaty. It's 3.5 years into the peace treaty the antichrist is known as the ANTICHRIST. For the 3.5 years before he is seen as the saviour of the world. He goes into the temple of God in Jerusalem and declares himself as God. His war with the saints begins at the midpoint of the 7 years. Revelation 13:7 - It was given power to wage war against God's holy people and to conquer them. And it was given authority over every tribe, people, language and nation. For the first 3.5 years he is seen as a peaceful man. The question is "Will believers be here during the tribulation period because no rapture happened? Or are the saints people who gave their lives to Jesus after the rapture? One thing we know; believers are not subject to God's wrath. A type of believers will be on earth during the tribulation; Revelation 7:1-8. In the Olivet discourse Jesus was talking to the disciples as if they would be alive when the end of the world was at hand. All the disciples are dead now and life still continues. But there's some important things that Jesus said. Matthew 24:12 - ... the love of many shall wax cold. Why would the love of some people wax cold? Because Jesus won't be present physically to solve their problems. Like he did when he walked here on earth. Matthew 24:13 - But he that shall endure into the end, the same shall be saved. What end is being talked about here? Some people think it's martyrdom that is being talked about here (it partially is). But the end being talked about is an end of seeing through a glass darkly (1 Corinthians 13:12). In other words what Jesus was saying is you have to endure till I reveal myself to you fully. Could be through death, martyrdom e.t.c. Also, Jesus said in verse 6 that "And ye shall hear of wars and rumours of wars: see that ye be not troubled: for all these must come to pass, but the end is not yet". It's clear that the 12 disciples would witness this. I believe that verses 1 to 14 are for the Israeli believers (in bible times) while verses 15 to 35 are for the tribulation believers of the generation that would see Jesus return. It's even said in verse 15 that the reader should understand. Matthew 24:15 - When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso READETH, let him understand:). Readeth?! Apparently, Jesus meant this for future believers. Jesus wouldn't have said readeth if it wasn't going to be in some book for reading in the future. Verses 15 to 35 is future believers. But it's for Israeli believers. The location being talked about is Israel. Although there would be tribulation for christians in other places too. Some people will believe in Jesus (both Israelites and other nationalities) after the rapture. These are the ones the Antichrist wages war against. Believers would be gone by then. I agree with the pre-wrath rapture view. It's similar to the pre-trib rapture view. The only difference is that the pre-wrath view places the rapture at the 6th seal while pre-trib says it comes before the seals, trumpets and bowls. Thank you.
  5. First off the 2nd woe is the 6th trumpet not the 2 witnesses. It's clear in Revelation 11 that the Spirit of God was telling John what would happen and that John was not seeing the things happen. So the 2nd woe cannot be the 2 witnesses. Revelation 11:3- And I WILL give power to my 2 witnesses to prophesy 1260 days clothed in sackcloth (emphasis mine). Clearly the Spirit of God was telling John what would happen. Different from where John said "I saw". Secondly, how could the bible say the kingdom of God comes with the 7th trumpet if the Antichrist comes after? It's because of the 2 witnesses. The only way the kingdom of God comes is through man. The kingdom of God came through Moses in the book of Exodus in the land of Egypt, Exodus 7:1. In the new testament, through Jesus (Matt.3:2). Jesus (a man) will rule the kingdom of God. Any questions?
  6. The U.S. President Donald Trump recently said that the U.S. embassy will move from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem. The news making the rounds is that the embassy will move in May in commemoration of Israel's 70 years of being a nation once again. God confirmed this for me. This move could lead to the Isaiah 17, Psalm 83 war.
  7. Daniel, did what happened in Noah's time happen only to Israel? Moreover Christ said that his coming would be as evident as lightning which flashes across the skies (which flashes across the earth from one end to another) (Matthew 24:27).
  8. Missmuffet, I believe the passage you cited talks about the judgement at the end of days.
  9. Jesus said that at his second coming one person will be taken away, the other left. I want to say first of all that those taken do not remain in this dimension. If they remain, their taking wouldn't be different from a kidnapping. But this isn't a kidnapping, it's Christ's second coming. What about Christ's statement that "where the body is, the vultures gather"? This simply means the spiritually dead are known. Just as the angel of death knew the firstborn sons of the Egyptians, the spiritually dead are known. It is the wicked who are taken, not the righteous. Christ likens his second coming to the times of Noah and Lot. I'm sure we all know that those times it was the wicked who were taken.
  10. Only God knows when the rapture will happen. Our wanting it to happen won't make it happen. It's God who will make it happen. God knows everything. God knows when God will make it happen.
  11. Could you tell me why they would go against God? Know that Jesus would be here. God doesn't say you should not live your life, what he doesn't want is rebellious people. Problems would solved easily because Jesus would be here. Besides 1 Corinthians 7:14 says- For the unbelieving husband has been sanctified through his wife, and the unbelieving wife has been sanctified through her believing husband. Otherwise your children would be unclean, but as it is, they are holy. Why would the children of believers go against God? Know that when the Israelites rebelled just before they were about about to enter the promised land, it was children 20 years and below that were given the grace to enter. We all know that children most of time become what they see their parents do. The bible says in Proverbs 22:6- Start children off on the way they should go, and even when they are old they will not turn from it.
  12. You are contradicting yourself missmuffet. You said the sheep and goat judgement determines who enters the millennium, meaning that only Christians would enter the millennium. There's no judgement before the millenium. This is what happens- satan is bound for 1000 years. The first resurrection happens. There will be both believing and non believing mortals that would enter the millennium.
  13. Missmuffet, if everyone's christian in the millennium, who will Satan convince to go up with him to fight Jerusalem? I'm afraid you're wrong there, missmuffet. I agree with what you said on the Judgement seat of Christ part. The millennium will not be too different from the way Israel was in old testament days, the difference that will is that Jesus will be here. People in heaven will still be in heaven. The devil will not be able to convince everyone on earth to go up and fight. If everyone is resurrected christian, who will populate the millennium?
  14. Daniel, you are saying the same thing Robert Morris said. I have just one question- Why would the book of life be used if the judgement is only for unbelievers?
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