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  1. To consider the sheep and goat judgement one has to consider its timing also. Are you saying the judgement comes before the great tribulation? Definitely it does not. See Revelation 20:11-15
  2. “So when you see standing in the holy place ‘the abomination that causes desolation,’[a] spoken of through the prophet Daniel—let the reader understand— 16 then let those who are in Judea flee to the mountains. 17 Let no one on the housetop go down to take anything out of the house. 18 Let no one in the field go back to get their cloak. 19 How dreadful it will be in those days for pregnant women and nursing mothers! 20 Pray that your flight will not take place in winter or on the Sabbath.21 For then there will be great distress, unequaled from the beginning of the world until now—and never to be equaled again. 22 “If those days had not been cut short, no one would survive, but for the sake of the elect those days will be shortened. The same train of thought continues from verse 15 to 22. To me the elect are the 144000.
  3. Who's correct? Daniel 11:36, Rev. Man? I agree with you, Daniel, we should analyze the passage in its context. 15 “So when you see standing in the holy place ‘the abomination that causes desolation,’[a] spoken of through the prophet Daniel—let the reader understand— 16 then let those who are in Judea flee to the mountains. 17 Let no one on the housetop go down to take anything out of the house. 18 Let no one in the field go back to get their cloak. 19 How dreadful it will be in those days for pregnant women and nursing mothers! 20 Pray that your flight will not take place in winter or on the Sabbath.21 For then there will be great distress, unequaled from the beginning of the world until now—and never to be equaled again. 22 “If those days had not been cut short, no one would survive, but for the sake of the elect those days will be shortened. The same train of thought continues from verse 15 to 22. To me the elect are the 144000.
  4. Is the elect in Matt. 24:22 Israelites (broadly, people living in Israel) or Christians not yet raptured? Please read context before answering.
  5. People say the rapture's got to be post-trib because Jesus said "immediately after the tribulation of those days" in Matt. 24:29. But he also said "in the world you shall have tribulation" in John 16:33. The disciples surely didn't face the final 7 years? Did they? We're still here. People also say Matthew 24:30 is Jesus' second coming. You'll agree with me that Matt. 24:29 is parallel to Rev. 6:12-14. Rev. 6:12-14 is the 6th seal. If Matt. 24:30 is the 2nd coming (7th trumpet), that means one has to cram the 7th seal and 6 trumpet judgements between verses 30 and 31, good? Not good. Not that I agree that the rapture occurs at the 7th trumpet. I'm just assuming it happens.
  6. Rev Man, I didn't say people won't be able to give their lives to Jesus after the rapture, what I said is it won't count. Whether they make it will depend on what they do about the Antichrist and his mark.
  7. Missmuffet, we are saying the same thing.
  8. Missmuffet, read Rev. 14:9,10.
  9. Missmuffet, I didn't say people won't be able to give their lives to Jesus after the rapture, what I said is it won't count. Whether they make it will depend on what they do about the Antichrist and his mark.
  10. Has anyone here heard about Tim Mchyde? His website is escapeallthesethings.com. He has birth pain 1 in Matthew 24 as world war 3 and wormwood as birth pain 2. Can be read at his site under the heading "Psalm 91 prophecy, not promises- " secret place" location found". I copied it and paste below- Birth Pain #1: WWIII "kingdom vs. kingdom" (Luke 21:10=Mt 24:7) Birth Pain #2: Wormwood: Earthquakes, terrors in space and earth (Luke 21:11=Mt 24:7=Rev 6:12,8:13=Joel 2:30). The only problem is wormwood comes before world war 3 in revelation. Wormword- Rev. 8:10,11. World war 3- Rev. 9:13-16 (according to Irvin Baxter). Any comments?
  11. I believe it would be too late to accept Jesus after the rapture. Not that I'm saying people would not repent after the rapture. But their salvation would be based on whether they worship the beast and receive his mark. See Rev. 14:9,10. But what if the rapture happens long before the mark of the beast is introduced? I believe the trumpet judgements will not be worldwide. Will be limited to the middle east (I think). So I think there would be mass emigration from the middle east (especially before the 5th trumpet).
  12. Dennis, I believe it would be too late to accept Jesus after the rapture. Not that I'm saying people would not repent after the rapture. But their salvation would be based on whether they worship the beast and receive his mark. See Rev. 14:9,10. But what if the rapture happens long before the mark of the beast is introduced? I believe the trumpet judgements will not be worldwide. Will be limited to the middle east (I think). So I think there would be mass emigration from the middle east (especially before the 5th trumpet).
  13. The 6 seals are not the wrath of the Lamb, they are just random happenings in a world gone wicked. The 6 seals shows God is omniscient, he knows what will happen before they happen. This is the reason I say the 6 seals are not the wrath of the Lamb, Rev. 6:9-11.
  14. I don't agree either. Jesus doesn't need to be given any weapon.
  15. Do you guys agree with wingnut that the rider of the 1st horse is Jesus?