FreeGrace Posted March 21, 2023 Group: Royal Member Followers: 4 Topic Count: 8 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 4,448 Content Per Day: 8.18 Reputation: 611 Days Won: 0 Joined: 11/07/2022 Status: Offline Share Posted March 21, 2023 2 hours ago, DeighAnn said: No body no spirit no soul. That is why we have 2 bodies. This body dies, we move on to realm of next body. If our next body dies in THAT realm, aka 2nd death, then we cease to be because no body spirit soul. I wonder where she gets "2 bodies" from? God resurrects the human body and glorifies it. Just one body. For those who are alive and remain their body is changed. Just one body. Not two. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FreeGrace Posted March 21, 2023 Group: Royal Member Followers: 4 Topic Count: 8 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 4,448 Content Per Day: 8.18 Reputation: 611 Days Won: 0 Joined: 11/07/2022 Status: Offline Share Posted March 21, 2023 1 hour ago, Selah7 said: A spiritual body is only incorruptible—not immortal. Only those who are of the first resurrection or the second resurrection will have immortal bodies (eternal lives). If unbelievers are resurrected into spiritual bodies, they can't die. The words "incorruptible" and "immortal" are synonymous. It is our mortal bodies that will degrade after death. That makes them corruptible. The fact that the body of unbelievers will DIE again proves that their resurrection body is only mortal and corruptible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenny2212 Posted March 21, 2023 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 3 Topic Count: 49 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 359 Content Per Day: 0.14 Reputation: 101 Days Won: 0 Joined: 01/27/2017 Status: Offline Author Share Posted March 21, 2023 4 hours ago, Selah7 said: Pain, agony, … Can a spiritual body feel pain? 2 Corinthians 4:18 (NKJV) - While we do not look at the things which are seen, but at the things which are not seen. For the things which are seen are temporary, but the things which are not seen are eternal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenny2212 Posted March 21, 2023 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 3 Topic Count: 49 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 359 Content Per Day: 0.14 Reputation: 101 Days Won: 0 Joined: 01/27/2017 Status: Offline Author Share Posted March 21, 2023 4 hours ago, FreeGrace said: Those who can't defend their own positions do finally give up. 10 hours ago, DeighAnn said: What does it add to your life if you can defend your position? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
truth7t7 Posted March 21, 2023 Group: Royal Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 56 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 2,749 Content Per Day: 0.60 Reputation: 329 Days Won: 0 Joined: 10/19/2011 Status: Offline Share Posted March 21, 2023 1 hour ago, FreeGrace said: If unbelievers are resurrected into spiritual bodies, they can't die. The words "incorruptible" and "immortal" are synonymous. It is our mortal bodies that will degrade after death. That makes them corruptible. The fact that the body of unbelievers will DIE again proves that their resurrection body is only mortal and corruptible. Scripture teaches that "All" will come forth at the "Resurrection" John 5:28-29KJV 28 Marvel not at this: for the hour is coming, in the which all that are in the graves shall hear his voice, 29 And shall come forth; they that have done good, unto the resurrection of life; and they that have done evil, unto the resurrection of damnation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Selah7 Posted March 21, 2023 Group: Royal Member Followers: 11 Topic Count: 56 Topics Per Day: 0.05 Content Count: 2,610 Content Per Day: 2.43 Reputation: 3,182 Days Won: 11 Joined: 05/25/2021 Status: Offline Share Posted March 21, 2023 1 hour ago, FreeGrace said: If unbelievers are resurrected into spiritual bodies, they can't die. The words "incorruptible" and "immortal" are synonymous. It is our mortal bodies that will degrade after death. That makes them corruptible. @kenny2212 Spiritual bodies can die. It’s called the second death, and this happens after the GWTJ. When our flesh body dies, we are all given spiritual bodies. Every one of us, both the saved and the unsaved. This happens at the last trump. 1 Corinthians 15:51 Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed, 52 In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed. … but this doesn’t mean that we will have become immortal. We will just be given a spiritual body that's incorruptible but not necessarily immortal. 53 For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality. So then, our flesh body is changed to a spiritual body either at Christ's return or when we die in the flesh, whichever happens first—and Aat that very moment, some of us will be granted eternal life/immortality at Christ's return (The First Resurrection). …. but some of us will have to wait until after the 1000-year Millennium, when at the Great White Throne Judgment, we will either be granted eternal life/immortality (The Second Resurrection) or eternal death (the Second Death), which is to perish (along with Satan in "The Lake of Fire") and be no more—blotted out—for God is a consuming fire. 54 So when (#1) this corruptible (body) shall have put on incorruption, and ( #2) this mortal (soul) shall have put on immortality, then shall be brought to pass the saying that is written, Death is swallowed up in victory. 55 O death, where is thy sting? O grave, where is thy victory? 56 The sting of death is sin; and the strength of sin is the law. 57 But thanks be to God, which giveth us the victory through our Lord Jesus Christ. 58 Therefore, my beloved brethren, be ye stedfast, unmoveable, always abounding in the work of the Lord, forasmuch as ye know that your labour is not in vain in the Lord. s e l a h 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeighAnn Posted March 21, 2023 Group: Royal Member Followers: 9 Topic Count: 84 Topics Per Day: 0.05 Content Count: 6,301 Content Per Day: 3.62 Reputation: 1,658 Days Won: 0 Joined: 07/31/2019 Status: Offline Share Posted March 21, 2023 1 hour ago, Selah7 said: @kenny2212 Spiritual bodies can die. It’s called the second death, and this happens after the GWTJ. When our flesh body dies, we are all given spiritual bodies. Every one of us, both the saved and the unsaved. This happens at the last trump. 1 Corinthians 15:51 Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed, 52 In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed. … but this doesn’t mean that we will have become immortal. We will just be given a spiritual body that's incorruptible but not necessarily immortal. 53 For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality. So then, our flesh body is changed to a spiritual body either at Christ's return or when we die in the flesh, whichever happens first—and Aat that very moment, some of us will be granted eternal life/immortality at Christ's return (The First Resurrection). …. but some of us will have to wait until after the 1000-year Millennium, when at the Great White Throne Judgment, we will either be granted eternal life/immortality (The Second Resurrection) or eternal death (the Second Death), which is to perish (along with Satan in "The Lake of Fire") and be no more—blotted out—for God is a consuming fire. 54 So when (#1) this corruptible (body) shall have put on incorruption, and ( #2) this mortal (soul) shall have put on immortality, then shall be brought to pass the saying that is written, Death is swallowed up in victory. 55 O death, where is thy sting? O grave, where is thy victory? 56 The sting of death is sin; and the strength of sin is the law. 57 But thanks be to God, which giveth us the victory through our Lord Jesus Christ. 58 Therefore, my beloved brethren, be ye stedfast, unmoveable, always abounding in the work of the Lord, forasmuch as ye know that your labour is not in vain in the Lord. s e l a h I am not erasing this time. God help. OK Abraham and Lazarus chatting both having died and their first bodies going back to dust. WHAT bodies are they in? Since I can't erase again, I'll just stop with that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Selah7 Posted March 21, 2023 Group: Royal Member Followers: 11 Topic Count: 56 Topics Per Day: 0.05 Content Count: 2,610 Content Per Day: 2.43 Reputation: 3,182 Days Won: 11 Joined: 05/25/2021 Status: Offline Share Posted March 21, 2023 1 minute ago, DeighAnn said: I am not erasing this time. God help. OK Abraham and Lazarus chatting both having died and their first bodies going back to dust. WHAT bodies are they in? Since I can't erase again, I'll just stop with that spiritual 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeighAnn Posted March 21, 2023 Group: Royal Member Followers: 9 Topic Count: 84 Topics Per Day: 0.05 Content Count: 6,301 Content Per Day: 3.62 Reputation: 1,658 Days Won: 0 Joined: 07/31/2019 Status: Offline Share Posted March 21, 2023 7 minutes ago, Selah7 said: spiritual Since the 'last trump' had not sounded...WHEN do we get our spiritual body? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Selah7 Posted March 21, 2023 Group: Royal Member Followers: 11 Topic Count: 56 Topics Per Day: 0.05 Content Count: 2,610 Content Per Day: 2.43 Reputation: 3,182 Days Won: 11 Joined: 05/25/2021 Status: Offline Share Posted March 21, 2023 3 minutes ago, DeighAnn said: Since the 'last trump' had not sounded...WHEN do we get our spiritual body? At the last trump— 7th. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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