Selah7 Posted March 21, 2023 Group: Royal Member Followers: 11 Topic Count: 56 Topics Per Day: 0.05 Content Count: 2,610 Content Per Day: 2.42 Reputation: 3,182 Days Won: 11 Joined: 05/25/2021 Status: Offline Share Posted March 21, 2023 Just now, Selah7 said: At the last trump— 7th. Right now those who have died (passed on) are in Paradise—either on the right side of the gulf (like Lazarus) or the wrong side of the gulf (like the rich man). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenny2212 Posted March 21, 2023 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 3 Topic Count: 49 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 359 Content Per Day: 0.14 Reputation: 101 Days Won: 0 Joined: 01/27/2017 Status: Offline Author Share Posted March 21, 2023 1 hour ago, Selah7 said: Spiritual bodies can die.  It’s called the second death, and this happens after the GWTJ. I agree spiritual bodies can die.  1 hour ago, Selah7 said: 1 Corinthians 15:51 Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed, Paul wrote this letter to Christians, not to all the world. The "all" in this excerpt refers to those of the household of faith. Read to the 57th verse. I quoted the 57th verse, did you even read my previous response to you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Selah7 Posted March 21, 2023 Group: Royal Member Followers: 11 Topic Count: 56 Topics Per Day: 0.05 Content Count: 2,610 Content Per Day: 2.42 Reputation: 3,182 Days Won: 11 Joined: 05/25/2021 Status: Offline Share Posted March 21, 2023 Just now, kenny2212 said: I agree spiritual bodies can die.  Paul wrote this letter to Christians, not to all the world. The "all" in this excerpt refers to those of the household of faith. Read to the 57th verse. I quoted the 57th verse, did you even read my previous response to you? Yes, I read it.   uh, but what are trying to point out? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeighAnn Posted March 21, 2023 Group: Royal Member Followers: 9 Topic Count: 84 Topics Per Day: 0.05 Content Count: 6,301 Content Per Day: 3.62 Reputation: 1,658 Days Won: 0 Joined: 07/31/2019 Status: Offline Share Posted March 21, 2023 18 minutes ago, Selah7 said: Right now those who have died (passed on) are in Paradise—either on the right side of the gulf (like Lazarus) or the wrong side of the gulf (like the rich man). If that is where they were UNDER THE OLD COVENANT, Jesus not having died and telling the story, are you saying the DEATH and resurrection of CHRIST ACCOMPLISHED NOTHING, brought about no changes, to bring Gods Children back into His presence?  Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Selah7 Posted March 21, 2023 Group: Royal Member Followers: 11 Topic Count: 56 Topics Per Day: 0.05 Content Count: 2,610 Content Per Day: 2.42 Reputation: 3,182 Days Won: 11 Joined: 05/25/2021 Status: Offline Share Posted March 21, 2023 Just now, Selah7 said: Yes, I read it.   uh, but what are trying to point out? The 7th trump, in which our Messiah returns, does away with the flesh.  This brings in the 1,000-year Millennium. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Selah7 Posted March 21, 2023 Group: Royal Member Followers: 11 Topic Count: 56 Topics Per Day: 0.05 Content Count: 2,610 Content Per Day: 2.42 Reputation: 3,182 Days Won: 11 Joined: 05/25/2021 Status: Offline Share Posted March 21, 2023 6 minutes ago, DeighAnn said: If that is where they were UNDER THE OLD COVENANT, Jesus not having died and telling the story, are you saying the DEATH and resurrection of CHRIST ACCOMPLISHED NOTHING, brought about no changes, to bring Gods Children back into His presence?  No, I’m not saying that at all!  He brought SALVATION. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenny2212 Posted March 21, 2023 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 3 Topic Count: 49 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 359 Content Per Day: 0.14 Reputation: 101 Days Won: 0 Joined: 01/27/2017 Status: Offline Author Share Posted March 21, 2023 37 minutes ago, DeighAnn said: I am not erasing this time. God help.  OK Abraham and Lazarus chatting both having died and their first bodies going back to dust.  WHAT bodies are they in? Since I can't erase again, I'll just stop with that  DeighAnn, when people die now their spirits (disembodied) live on. At the Resurrection they get spiritual BODIES (their physical bodies, spirits and souls get changed into spiritual bodies). The spiritual body is one entity unlike our present tripartite (spirit, soul, body) existence. All spiritual bodies can die. One would have to eat the fruit of the Tree of Life to live forever. Genesis 3:22-23 (NKJV) - Then the Lord God said, "Behold, the man has become like one of Us, to know good and evil. And now, lest he put out his hand and take also of the tree of life, and eat, and live forever"- 23 therefore the Lord God sent him out of the garden of Eden to till the ground from which he was taken. What Paul meant by "immortality" is not being able to grow old and die. Why spirits don't die in hell now is because they are DISEMBODIED (no body) spirits. You guys should connect the dots. I am of the viewpoint that all creation is subject to God, the Creator.  Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenny2212 Posted March 21, 2023 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 3 Topic Count: 49 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 359 Content Per Day: 0.14 Reputation: 101 Days Won: 0 Joined: 01/27/2017 Status: Offline Author Share Posted March 21, 2023 (edited) 33 minutes ago, Selah7 said: Yes, I read it.   uh, but what are trying to point out? IS OUR LORD JESUS CHRIST THE LORD OF UNBELIEVERS TOO? Edited March 21, 2023 by kenny2212 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Selah7 Posted March 21, 2023 Group: Royal Member Followers: 11 Topic Count: 56 Topics Per Day: 0.05 Content Count: 2,610 Content Per Day: 2.42 Reputation: 3,182 Days Won: 11 Joined: 05/25/2021 Status: Offline Share Posted March 21, 2023 @kenny2212 Immortality is a resurrection to eternal life.  Incorruptible is to not be susceptible to corruption. These are two different words with two different meanings, s e l a h  1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Selah7 Posted March 21, 2023 Group: Royal Member Followers: 11 Topic Count: 56 Topics Per Day: 0.05 Content Count: 2,610 Content Per Day: 2.42 Reputation: 3,182 Days Won: 11 Joined: 05/25/2021 Status: Offline Share Posted March 21, 2023 11 minutes ago, kenny2212 said: IS OUR LORD JESUS CHRIST THE LORD OF UNBELIEVERS TOO? Yes.  Don’t forget about the millennium.  Many unbelievers who never had a chance will be taught and converted at this time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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