rdclmn72 Posted May 17, 2023 Group: Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 9 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 26 Content Per Day: 0.07 Reputation: 3 Days Won: 0 Joined: 05/14/2023 Status: Offline Share Posted May 17, 2023 Isaiah says that God states the end from the beginning. When a leader sets an example to be followed it is known as a precedent. God sets precedents which are followed through scripture all the way to revelation. Revelation is full of references to events in the old testament, without the use of precedent it can't be understood. One example is that of the 144,000 where these are described as having not defiled themselves with women. This comes from Samuel where the sons of Eli despised the offerings and slept with the women that kept watch of the sanctuary. It tells us that the 144,000 are priests and rulers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Revelation Man Posted May 20, 2023 Group: Royal Member Followers: 9 Topic Count: 12 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 4,067 Content Per Day: 1.41 Reputation: 551 Days Won: 0 Joined: 06/01/2016 Status: Offline Share Posted May 20, 2023 On 5/17/2023 at 7:49 AM, rdclmn72 said: Isaiah says that God states the end from the beginning. When a leader sets an example to be followed it is known as a precedent. God sets precedents which are followed through scripture all the way to revelation. Revelation is full of references to events in the old testament, without the use of precedent it can't be understood. One example is that of the 144,000 where these are described as having not defiled themselves with women. This comes from Samuel where the sons of Eli despised the offerings and slept with the women that kept watch of the sanctuary. It tells us that the 144,000 are priests and rulers. We are all Kings and Priests in Christ Jesus. Rev. 1:6 and Rev. 5:9-10 tells us this, as did Paul. So, when you see the 24 Elders in Rev. 4 that is the Pre Trib Raptured Church in heaven, and it is being likened unto the 1 Chronicles 24 Order of the Priesthood. The 144,000 is indeed just a CODE, as is the 7000 God has saved unto Himself. Why would God give Satan the number 2000 years ago? In Zech. 13:8-9 we are told 1/3 of the Jewish people will repent and 2/3 will be cut-off and die, thus 3.5-5 million Jews repent. They are not all male. neither are the 'Virgins" just like the 10 Female Brides represent the COMPLETE Church, but we are not all "Virgins" nor are we all Females, of course. I wonder why we can not see that 10 = Completion and 12 = Fulness and 12 x 12 x 10 x 10 x 10 is God SHOUTING, this is ALL Israel who repents, not 144,000. Also, 7 = Divine Completion so 7 x 10 x 10 s 10 = 7000 or ALL Israel who repents. That will be roughly 3.5-5 million Jews who flee Judea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
truth7t7 Posted May 20, 2023 Group: Royal Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 56 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 2,749 Content Per Day: 0.60 Reputation: 329 Days Won: 0 Joined: 10/19/2011 Status: Offline Share Posted May 20, 2023 56 minutes ago, Revelation Man said: when you see the 24 Elders in Rev. 4 that is the Pre Trib Raptured Church in heaven "Yes" The Church Will Be Present on Earth, There Won't Be A Pre-Tribulation Rapture, Don't Be Deceived "The Church" seen in Luke 21 below, those who are persecuted for the name of Jesus Christ, they will be eyewitnesses of the future great tribulation and second coming of Jesus in the heavens, your claim of a pre-tribulation rapture would be false The Tribulation verses 25-26 below, the Second Coming verses 27-28 below "Yes" The Church On Earth, Hated By The World For The Name Of Jesus (Verse 17) Luke 21:17 & 25-28KJV 17 And ye shall be hated of all men for my name's sake. 25 And there shall be signs in the sun, and in the moon, and in the stars; and upon the earth distress of nations, with perplexity; the sea and the waves roaring; 26 Men's hearts failing them for fear, and for looking after those things which are coming on the earth: for the powers of heaven shall be shaken. 27 And then shall they see the Son of man coming in a cloud with power and great glory. 28 And when these things begin to come to pass, then look up, and lift up your heads; for your redemption draweth nigh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shilohsfoal Posted May 20, 2023 Group: Royal Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 153 Topics Per Day: 0.06 Content Count: 5,881 Content Per Day: 2.47 Reputation: 330 Days Won: 1 Joined: 10/22/2017 Status: Offline Share Posted May 20, 2023 On 5/17/2023 at 8:49 AM, rdclmn72 said: Isaiah says that God states the end from the beginning. When a leader sets an example to be followed it is known as a precedent. God sets precedents which are followed through scripture all the way to revelation. Revelation is full of references to events in the old testament, without the use of precedent it can't be understood. One example is that of the 144,000 where these are described as having not defiled themselves with women. This comes from Samuel where the sons of Eli despised the offerings and slept with the women that kept watch of the sanctuary. It tells us that the 144,000 are priests and rulers. Much like Jesus ministry in Israel . There are those who will preach the gospel throughout Israel for 3.5 years while Israel is occupied by gentile armed forces of the north .Many of them will be rejected and put to death by their own people. It's amazing the similarities between 2000 years ago and the time of the end.And Jesus speaks directly to them in the gospel telling them what's going to happen to them for following him. He sure set the presedent though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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