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  1. Rev. 12: Heavenly Sign to appear in 2017 - What could it mean?

    The Lord says as I pointed out, that the Saints are the Armies, can you not read plain English? arrayed in fine linen, clean and white: for the FINE LINEN is the righteousness of SAINTS 9 And he saith unto me, Write, Blessed are they which are called unto the marriage supper of the Lamb. And he saith unto me, These are the true sayings of God. 14 And the armies which were in heaven followed him upon white horses, clothed in fine linen, white and clean. (See verse 8, the Fine White Linen signifies a SAINT of God.) This can't be as difficult to figure out as you guys make it out to be. The WHITE FINE LINEN is the Righteousness of the SAINTS WHO ARE THE Church !! The Church HAS TO BE at the Marriage Supper and that is ON EARTH at Armageddon, so the CHURCH COMES BACK WITH JESUS !!
  2. Events before the antichrist appears

    WE ARE.......You just can't see it it seems.
  3. Events before the antichrist appears

    I understand the Holy Spirits voice. I don't present MY IDEAS as Gods revelation, when the Holy Spirit does give me something I will not be moved. That's just the way I roll. Now if you can point to anything you disagree with me on we can knock it around, but I am stating things that are given to be by the Holy Spirit, so you need to be specific, generalizing is not going tio get us anywhere. You are the one making charges against a bother of God that has brought millions to Christ Jesus, I suggest you ill be asked in Heaven why you came against Gods Servant with slander. Like I stated, if your Spirit can't see the Holy Spirit work when its before you you have an issue. Something is wrong. Now like Satan who stands before God daily bringing charges against the brothers, you are doing his biding. Satan loves it. But the Holy Spirit is not fazed in the least and continues his work. So your charges don't really mean anything, do they?
  4. Events before the antichrist appears

    Who is WE? The 10 percent of all Christendom that agrees with you? You should move away from Prophecy brother.
  5. Events before the antichrist appears

    I don't know what all that was even about since I understand All Israel will be Saved, maybe its about a conversation above !! And Yes, Joseph was a type of Suffering Servant and David was a type of Conquering King. Joseph also SAVED his brothers the "Second time" they saw him, and Jesus will save Israel the Second Time they will see him. As per brother Benny, you listen to "the world" and miss the Holy Spirits OBVIOUS WORKS, thus your mind is being misled by Satan. The Spirit testifies of the Spirit, you have your mind on some type of Prophecy, when I think you really don't understand the difference between a "Word of Knowledge" and a Prophecy, they are two different things entirely. A Prophet of God is few and far in between and most had to get away from mankind/go to the desert to receive of God in full. There words are supposed to be Prophetic and are meant to represent God as always being 100 percent right. A Word of knowledge is just not the same thing. Its always contingent upon peoples actions, like Nineveh. A word of Knowledge can be foggy to us, believe me, I know, sometimes we are given these Words of Knowledge but don't understand, even Gabriel had to explain to Daniel. Sometimes God changes contingent upon the Churches actions. People given words of knowledge by God are not Prophets, and you or anyone else holding them to that standard is WRONG. Mark Taylor the Fireman stated in 2011 that Donald Trump would be President, and that the sign would be a triple crown winner, he heard correct, but he thought it was 2012, but God was saying the Church is not in the right place at that time. Sure enough, the Triple Crown horse freakishly broke his leg in the 3rd Race. A triple crown was won and Trump became president. He stated that they would " try to keep the current president in for another term, well we know presidents can only run twice, but Obama seems to have tried to set up a Shadow Gov.....he didn't see that clearly until it came to pass. Then half the thing you listen to the "WORLD" telling you are half truths and lies. Any person that can't see the Holy Spirits actions when presented to them needs to recheck themselves, IMHO.
  6. Events before the antichrist appears

    You are off again on this subject brother. Those under the Alter are Tribulation Martyrs. I have never seen someone that just gets every issue wrong as per prophecy. Its not your bag it seems. Jesus tells the "Tribulation Saints" they must WAIT until their fellow brethren are killed also, which means they have to wait until the BEASTS 42 Month Reign is finished. They clearly say they want vengeance of the people ON EARTH who killed them, PRESENT TENSE. You have never corrected me, that's funny.
  7. Events before the antichrist appears

    That wasn't my thought/point, him being in power at all, it was Jesus being betrayed by Judas and many seem to think that the Jewish peoples accept this Anti-Christ as their Messiah (which they never do) and thus he is likened unto Judas who betrays Israel, after having been trusted by them. Like I stated, I seemed to think you were headed there and then it seemed you didn't quite go there, so I pulled back. Let me ask you, d you think Israel accepts the Anti-Christ as their Messiah? (No better way to find out than to ask). Perdition only means hes going to Hell for eternity. The Harlot = ALL FALSE RELIGION and she is Judged/Killed off, she is no more. No use going into great detail, I have a thread on Babylon, the Harlot and the Seven Headed Beast on this site. I don't know Bill, Rick or Kenny, but if you are speaking of Brother Benny Hinn and you can't understand hes of the Holy Spirit then I am very wary of your testimony. Way too many people go around tearing down our brothers in Christ Jesus, that's Satan's job not ours. Just because you do't have the same gifts as others, that doesn't mean they don't exist. The "Come out of her my people" is referring to Israel fleeing unto the Wilderness in the end times, it has nothing to do with the Church. Which means we need to be of God and of the Holy Spirit else we might be a False Teacher, when you get 200 different ideas of what Babylon is, I think you have a lot of people who are clueless, who are not called in certain fields but yet they think they are. They want to be a foot who they are called to be a hand. It has nothing to do with Apostasy. The first Seven English Translations stated DEPART or DEPARTING. This insight about the use and meaning of the word was certainly compelling, but the argument Mr. Ice presented that was most convicting was his revelation that the first seven English translations of the Bible rendered the noun, apostasia, as either “departure” or “departing.” They were as follows: 1.The Wycliffe Bible (1384) 2.The Tyndale Bible (1526) 3. The Coverdale Bible (1535) 4. The Cranmer Bible (1539) 5. The Great Bible (1540) 6. The Beeches Bible (1576) 7. The Geneva Bible (1608) Mr. Ice also noted that the Bible used by the Western world from 400 AD to the 1500s — Jerome’s Latin translation known as “The Vulgate” — rendered apostasia with the Latin word, discessio, which means “departure.” The first translation of the word to mean apostasy in an English Bible did not occur until 1611 when the King James Version was issued. So, why did the King James translators introduce a completely new rendering of the word as “falling away”? The best guess is that they were taking a stab at the false teachings of Catholicism. Rev. 19 can't happen without a Pre-trib Rapture first. When these things begin to happen they will move quickly and time lines will be out the window. The most important aspect is do we have oil? Do we have Jesus? If we have Jesus we have oil. Biblical understanding is becoming more and more important and how many people come to church these days with one in hand? How many churches are teaching doctrine building believers in the faith? I've heard hours of Rick Warren speak without directly mentioning Jesus or scripture. He has been asked to speak in front of Muslims and Jews never mentioning the gospel. Could you imagine Paul or Peter or James or Timothy having the floor and telling them how to have better growth and partnering to feed the poor and never preaching the gospel? The church is deceived! Mega churches in every town but look at our nation. We have no witness anymore, the new birth is a joke to people, judgement is coming and we are listening to hill song and people like Mark Driscoll. Our youth is being taken by clowns. No repentance, no revival. I don't know him.
  8. Rev. 12: Heavenly Sign to appear in 2017 - What could it mean?

    Not that I care, but switching bibles per certain words really makes no sense. I still with the KJV or Holman no matter what, if I need to explain the Translation I do. Its no big deal, but I don't understand why people do ot. NOW....Your two scriptures here are kind of like Eves confusion in the Garden of Eden when Satan told her, "You will no surely die" which was a Half Truth. You see, the Angels AND the Church comes with Jesus Christ. So of course 2 Thess. 1 is correct, but it does not a think to change the fact I stated, Rev. 19 can not be TRUE unless the Church is RAPTURED. Its not that complicated. Revelation 19:1 And after these things I heard a great voice of much people in heaven, saying, Alleluia; Salvation, and glory, and honour, and power, unto the Lord our God: 7 Let us be glad and rejoice, and give honour to him: for the marriage of the Lamb is come, and his wife hath made herself ready 8 And to her(CHURCH) was granted that she should be arrayed in fine linen, clean and white: for the FINE LINEN is the righteousness of SAINTS 9 And he saith unto me, Write, Blessed are they which are called unto the marriage supper of the Lamb. And he saith unto me, These are the true sayings of God. {{{ OK, There are MUCH PEOPLE in heaven, and then we see the Marriage of the Lamb to his Bride (Church) takes place. She is given WHITE ROBES that stand for her Righteousness as SAINTS !! THIS IS THE CHURCH. Then we are told that Blessed are those who are CALLED to the Marriage Supper (REMEMBER THAT). So the Church is in Heaven, Marrying the Lamb and awaiting the Marriage Supper, lets see what happens Next. }}} 10 And I fell at his feet to worship him. And he said unto me, See thou do it not: I am thy fellowservant, and of thy brethren that have the testimony of Jesus: worship God: for the testimony of Jesus is the spirit of prophecy. 11 And I saw heaven opened, and behold a white horse; and he that sat upon him was called Faithful and True (JESUS), and in righteousness he doth judge and make war 12 His eyes were as a flame of fire, and on his head were many crowns; and he had a name written, that no man knew, but he himself. 13 And he was clothed with a vesture dipped in blood: and his name is called The Word of God. 14 And the armies which were in heaven followed him upon white horses, clothed in fine linen, white and clean. (See verse 8, the Fine White Linen signifies a SAINT of God.) {{{ The Church returns with Jesus Christ FROM HEAVEN, to Earth, where the Anti-Christ his Kings and their Armies are STILL ON EARTH, After the Rapture !!!! (SEE BELOW). So the Rapture happens well before the Second Coming. Its Elementary in reality, if we follow the scriptures instead of the "Traditions of men". Lets finish this up. }}} Revelation 19:17 And I saw an angel standing in the sun; and he cried with a loud voice, saying to all the fowls that fly in the midst of heaven (CHURCH), Come and gather yourselves together unto the supper of the great God. 18 That ye may eat the flesh of kings, and the flesh of captains, and the flesh of mighty men, and the flesh of horses, and of them that sit on them, and the flesh of all men, both free and bond, both small and great. 19 And I saw the (BEAST Still Alive), and the kings of the earth, and their armies (Still Alive after the Church comes back with Jesus From Heaven), gathered together to make war against him(JESUS) that sat on the horse, and against his army(CHURCH/Angels). 20 And the beast was taken, and with him the false prophet (Two Men) that wrought miracles before him, with which he deceived them that had received the mark of the beast, and them that worshipped his image. These both were cast alive into a lake of fire burning with brimstone (Same as Daniel 7:11). 21 And the remnant were slain with the sword(Holy Spirit) of him that sat upon the horse, which sword proceeded out of his mouth: and all the fowls were filled with their flesh. {{{ OK, we have the Marriage Supper happening here, of course the "MARRIAGE SUPPER" is those killed at Armageddon. If you read Matthew 24:28 properly you will understand what Jesus meant about where the Carcass is there the Eagles (fowls) will be Gathered. He was speaking about the Second Coming, IMMEDIATELY AFTER the Tribulation, and that happens with the Church in tow, as Rev. ch. 19 clearly shows us, if we just read the plain text as written. So the Beast/Kings/Armies are still on Earth while the Church is in Heaven Marrying the Lamb (Jesus). The Battle of Armageddon is fought after the Saints return from Heave on White Horses with Jesus, so there has to be a PRE-TRIBULATION Rapture. Then the Marriage Supper is served, the flesh of the wicked men on earth is our glorious feast. Then the Beast and False Prophet are cast into hell, and their Armies are killed, to be Judged in 1000 years. Now disprove anything I stated with scriptures, it can't be done. }}} Just to be crystal clear on your points I Skipped over, trying to prove the Church isn't in heaven (unsuccessfully) what the very first verse in Rev. 19 says.........THERE WAS MUCH PEOPLE IN HEAVEN !! Now, on to these points of emphasis above. The Beginning of Sorrows happens after 70 AD and before the Tribulation begins and before the Rapture. Matthew 24:14 says the Word must be preached unto all the World, then end will come, so the "Sorrows" is not nor can it start during the Tribulation, but well before. Of course you might have meant that. So the Sorrows to begin first but not during the Tribulation. 1. Sorrows Begin just before the Disciples are Killed See verses 8 and 9. 2. The Tribulation is a Seven Year Period called Jacobs Troubles. Its the last of the 70 Weeks Decree/Judgment. The "Greatest Troubles" do come just after the Abomination of Desolation, but that is not the "Great Tribulation" as mentioned by John in Rev. ch. 7, the Great Tribulation is a 2000 year period of Tribulation that the Church went through. 2000 years is FAR GREATER than 7 years, although the GREATEST TROUBLES EVER happen in the Last 7 years or even the last 3.5 Years. 3. Israel REPENTS (As a Nation, not all Jews) just after the Two-Witnesses are sent forth before the AoD. 4. The Abomination of Desolation, The Day of the Lord and the Wrath of God all have one and the Same starting point, as a matter of fact the DOTL and Gods Wrath are the same thing. Gods Wrath begins with the Opening of the Seals, of course. 5. Then Jesus comes at the End, via the 6th Vial which Gathers the Nations unto Armageddon. Then the Seventh Via is poured out, Jesus lands on the Mt of Olives, thus the great EARTHQUAKE in Rev. 16:19.
  9. Events before the antichrist appears

    Hello brother. I agree we are told he will be "Revealed" but we differ a tad on what this means. I think it is kind of like Revelation means the curtain is taken away, in other words hes there before he is known to be whom he is, if you catch my drift. I guess it was the Judas comment that got me to thinking you were suggesting he will be placed into power by Israel, maybe that's not what you meant. Anyway, when the First Seal is opened then the Anti-Christ will be Revealed or shown to be who he is, not a "Man of peace" as he claims falsely, but a Dictator who desires to be worshiped as a "Human God". Israel never places him in a place of authority over them, they do sign a "Forced" Peace/Security Agreement with him, and he deceives them and others. I agree with the Political System and the Economic System being intertwined, but the Religious System will be in total chaos in my honest opinion. For starters the Church will be Raptured and in Heaven by the time the Anti-Christ comes to power. It is my understanding through research that the Beast (The Anti-Christ becomes the BEAST when he Conquers Jerusalem) will destroy all Religions, he will not partner with Any Religion, he desires to be Worshiped as the ONLY GOD, why would any Dictator with Dark powers try to change the hearts and minds of 2 Billion Muslims? Hey you guys, I am GOD...Come worship me !! That is just not what a ruthless Dictator would do (They wouldn't anyway). In Daniel 8:25 it says he " Destroys (deceives) many through Peace so I think he gains Cred as the European President by solving the current Muslim problem in Europe, by coming down hard on "Radical Islam" and he also solves a World-wide economic collapse (he understands Dark Sentences = He solves Riddles and Conundrums with Dark Powers). This gives him leverage, and some Arab/Israeli conflict will give him the leverage to demand that HE and HE ALONE be the one that "Secures the Peace" in the Region, after all he has destroyed the Radical Muslim sects in Europe, so Israel falls for this via much pressure from the rest of the world. The Arabs also will go along seeing as Israel will disarm, they think in the future that gives them a chance at defeating Israel. So this BEAST has the power to protect the whole region, kind of like the USA protected Germany and Japan for years and NATO protects Eastern Europe. (ITS A MISTAKE OF COURSE). He then, half way through these Agreements (Covenants) with Many, will break these Agreements and ATTACK with a ruthless fervor never seen before. He will conquer the Arabs and Israel (Jerusalem) and he will destroy All Religions, Islam will be outlawed, as will All Religions, Hinduism, Buddhism, etc. etc. He will demand to be Worshiped as the ONLY GOD. He is not going to "Unite Religions"...If you were trying to become a One World Dictator, who was going to Demand ALL PEOPLE Worship you as the ONLY GOD, would you try to unite all the Worlds Religions? Can you say DISASTER !! That is not going to happen, Satan is a brilliant tactician, he is going to destroy all the False Religions (The Harlot Rev. 17:16 is destroyed by the KINGS [Governments] thus she is no more). He then tries to kill all the Jews but only kills 2/3, because 1/3 heed Jesus' warning and Flee unto the Wilderness. He then goes after the REMNANT of the Church and we know Remnant means a Small part that is left. I think the Deception is by Anti-Christ, not Religious Entities. I agree with much of this, except the Religions coming together as one and the very last Sentence/Verse. The departing is not of the FAITH but the CHURCH DEPARTING....Nowhere is FAITH Spoken of in that passage, BUT..... a gathering together unto Christ Jesus is spoken of....the Church DEPARTS then the Anti-Christ is REVEALED both before the Day of the Lord, Gods coming Wrath.
  10. Rev. 12: Heavenly Sign to appear in 2017 - What could it mean?

    Yes, you can not have a Rev. 19 without a Rapture.
  11. Rev. 12: Heavenly Sign to appear in 2017 - What could it mean?

    You don't get anything. You even thinking I am a preterist is lazy because I have threads that tell who Babylon, the Harlot and the Seven Headed Beast are on this very site. Rev. 12:1-5 is Jesus being born. You not getting that its a PAST EVENT is rather strange.
  12. Rev. 12: Heavenly Sign to appear in 2017 - What could it mean?

    Pay attention, I did not say Revelation was not Prophecy, I stated Rev. 12:1-5 is not Prophecy. You do realize that a PAST EVENT can not possible be PROPHECY RIGHT? Rev. 12:1-5 is about the Woman (Genesis 37:9 tells us that means ISRAEL) who is Israel, she gives birth to a male-child (Not man-child) who was of course Jesus Christ, the Dragon (Satan) via King Herod tried to kill him, but we know the Angel warned Joseph and Mary and they FLED to Egypt for 2 Years. Then the male-child ascends to Heaven to the Right side of Gods Throne. Now you tell me how John telling this in AD 95 or so is Prophecy when Jesus DIED in 30-33 AD !! Like I stated, it is NOT PROPHECY nor can it be. Its was a CODE so that John could say Israel without saying Israel because Rome had just destroyed the Temple and the City and him speaking about God protecting Israel would have been seen as sedition, the persecuted Churches would have suffered even more and its likely that the book of Revelation would have been destroyed by the Romans. So John placed it in CODE......The Code having been understood by those that understand the Old Testament can now figure out the REAL PROPHECY. Rev. 12:6-17, Satan is kicked out of Heaven by Micheal, he comes to earth having GREAT ANGER, he tries to kill all the Jews but can only kill 2/3 because 1/3 flee to the Wilderness, we know these NUMBERS because of Zechariah chapters 13 and 14. So the Dragon via the Anti-Christ gets angry when he can't get at the Woman and he then goes after the REMNANT of the Church (REMNANT = SMALL PART THAT'S LEFT) who obey God and serve Jesus Christ. They are a Remnant because the Church has been Raptured, they become Christians after the Rapture. The Prophecy is about verses 6-17. You can not have a PROPHECY about PAST EVENTS, Sorry.
  13. Rev. 12: Heavenly Sign to appear in 2017 - What could it mean?

    No, it is Astrology. Its reading the Stars via the Babylonian practice of Astrology. Venus, Jupiter, Mars and Mercury are all a part of this bogus event. I will detail all of these Planets association with Astrology at the BOTTOM, but first is a REAL Astronomers/Professors study of this, for one he says he searched back 1000 years and found that this has happened at least four times before, and it not 12 Stars, its actually many more stars and it uses these Planets instead of Stars, only 9 Stars are used, NOT 12. Here is his blog that disproves this and he calls it ASTROLOGY. By Christoper. M. Graney One day last fall I was working in my office when my desk phone rang. It was a reader of The Catholic Astronomer, calling me with a question. He asked why the Vatican Observatory blog was full of discussion on black holes or whatnot, when there was something much more momentous to talk about. It turns out that the momentous thing to which my caller was referring was an arrangement of celestial bodies that will occur this year (2017) on September 23. On that date, according to various Internet sources, the heavens themselves will be a tableau of Revelation 12: A great sign appeared in the sky, a woman clothed with the sun, with the moon under her feet, and on her head a crown of twelve stars. She was with child and wailed aloud in pain as she labored to give birth.… She gave birth to a son, a male child, destined to rule all the nations with an iron rod. On September 23, 2017 the sun will be in the ZODIAC constellation Virgo—“a woman clothed with the sun”. The moon will be at the feet of Virgo—“with the moon under her feet”. The ‘nine’ stars of the zodiac constellation Leo, plus three planets (Mercury, Venus, and Mars), will be at the head of Virgo—“on her head a crown of twelve stars”. The planet Jupiter will be in the center of Virgo, and as the weeks pass after September 23 Jupiter will exit Virgo to the east, past her feet, so to speak—“She was with child and wailed aloud in pain as she labored to give birth”. Jupiter is the largest of the planets, the “king” of the planets, so to speak—“She gave birth to a son, a male child, destined to rule all the nations with an iron rod”. Must this not be a sign of something momentous, like the Internet sources say? Now, I know that the readers of this blog are diverse. People with interest in astronomy are a diverse group! And you all will have diverse reactions to this question. Some of you are probably saying right now, “what a bunch of nonsense!” Others of you may be thinking that my caller had a good point, and you would like to learn more. Fortunately, I am a community college professor! Community college people are the ‘A-Team’ of the academic world (as in B.A., Hannibal, and the crew from the T.V. show and the movie—who are tougher than anyone else and able to save the day using duct tape, PVC pipe, and a butane lighter). We thrive on diversity! No question phases us! We know that there are a lot of smart people out there who have not had much formal education in a topic like astronomy, and that interest in questions like this reflects a basic interest in astronomy combined with interest in religion and scripture. My caller was familiar with the Stellarium sky software. He could call up the skies of September 23, 2017 on Stellarium and see for himself that this celestial arrangement was a real thing. His was a reasonable question. Scientists need to be able to answer questions people have like this one, without treating the questions as nonsense, because the questions will not go away just because they are dismissed. And thus before long I was having a nice conversation with the caller, and I ended up telling him I would look into his question, and write a post on this topic. But I said it was unlikely to be the post he was looking for. He was OK with that. And so, Mr. Caller: (Here's is his studious answer) First, in one year, thanks to the Earth’s annual orbit, the sun travels the entirety of the ecliptic, and thus passes through every one of the 12 constellations of the zodiac. The sun is in Virgo every September. Second, in one month the moon goes through its cycle of phases, and travels the entirety of the ecliptic, and thus passes through every constellation of the ZODIAC—all owed to the period of the moon’s orbit being one month. Therefore there is always a day or two every year when the sun is in Virgo and the moon is just to the east of Virgo (just past the “feet”). So, the celestial “woman clothed with the sun with the moon at her feet” is as common in September as is the U.S.’s Labor Day. But what of the crown of twelve “stars,” comprised of three planets and the nine stars of LEO? The response to this question is another question—why nine stars in Leo? There are many more than nine stars in Leo. Those nine are just brighter ones that are often depicted as comprising the general outline or shape of the constellation. But in fact there are scads of stars in Leo and surrounding the “head” of Virgo. And not all depictions of Leo show those nine as its outline. Some show the outline of Leo as consisting of ten stars, for example. That would give Virgo a crown of thirteen stars here! And yes, multiple planets being at Virgo’s head while Jupiter is in Virgo’s center and the moon is at Virgo’s feet is somewhat unusual. But it is not that unusual. The period of Jupiter’s orbit is a little less than twelve years, and therefore Jupiter will be in Virgo (with the sun there, too, and the moon at the feet) once every eleven or twelve years. So the sun in Virgo, the moon at Virgo’s “feet”, and Jupiter in the constellation are regular occurrences. This leaves the planets at the “head” (the number depending on the number of stars granted to Leo) as the determining factor in making a “momentous” celestial arrangement. Indeed, while various Internet sources speak of the specific celestial arrangement here as being “unique in human history” or “once in 7000 years”, in fact it is not unique to September 23, 2017. This basic arrangement happened before—in September 1827, in September 1483, in September 1293, and in September 1056. These are all shown at the end of this post. I only searched back one thousand years, from 2017 to 1017—there are undoubtedly other examples outside of that time period, and probably a couple examples that I missed within that time period. No doubt someone could go diving into the history books to scrounge up some events from 1827, 1483, 1293, and 1056 that the September skies of those years supposedly foretold. That’s the way it is with ASTROLOGY. A person reads his or her daily horoscope and finds that it says “obstacles will be placed in your path today.” Then, that person picks those instances of getting stuck in traffic, or in a long line at the grocery store, or wherever, and says “hey, that horoscope was right,” when of course we all encounter such things every day. It is true that astrology—reading the heavens for signs—is something astronomers used to believe was valid (or, my guess is that many of them pretended to believe it was valid, because it paid the bills). But astrology has been found to have no more scientific basis than Harry Potter’s wand. It doesn’t work (something that does not seem to hinder its popularity). If astrology had anything going for it, astronomers would not need to go begging for money to fund astronomical research. We could just use our astronomical knowledge to divine which way the stock market was going, invest accordingly, become “astronomically” wealthy, and fund astronomical research from our surplus. As it is, watching the heavens for signs of what is to come is a waste of time. And it is doubly a waste of time because “signs in the sky” appeal, for some reason, to all sorts of people out there—all of whom can use Stellarium to find this or that momentous “sign” signifying whatever they want to signify. And that is why astronomers ignore the seemingly momentous celestial arrangement of September 23, 2017, and talk instead about black holes or whatnot. About Christopher M. Graney Christopher M. Graney is professor of physics and astronomy at Jefferson Community & Technical College in Louisville, Kentucky (USA), where he helps keep the college’s observatory running. For some years now his research focus has been the history of astronomy. On his site you can see the PICTURES(Computer Generated) of the Various Years he mentioned via his Computer generated program. +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ As per the Planets involved and what they mean in Astrology. Venus is the Goddess of Love. In Astrology, Venus has dual rulership over Libra and Taurus. As a result, Venus represents two main areas of our life: love and money. “Love and money” is actually a simplistic interpretation of Venus. ... Grace, charm, and beauty are all ruled by Venus. Jupiter, the King of the Gods, is the ruler of Sagittarius. In Astrology, Jupiter is a planet of plenty. It is tolerant and expansive. The first of the social planets, Jupiter seeks insight through knowledge. Some of this planet’s keywords include morality, gratitude, hope, honor, and the law. Jupiter is a planet of broader purpose, reach, and possibility. Mars, the God of War, is the ruler of Aries. In astrology, Mars is the planet of energy, action, and desire. It is the survival instinct, and can be thought of as the “leftover” animal nature of man. Mars rules our animal instincts for aggression, anger, and survival. Our sexual desires come under the rule of Mars. Mercury, Messenger of the gods, in Astrology/Zodiac. Mercury. Mercury, the messenger of the gods, is the ruler of Gemini and Virgo. Mercury is the messenger in Astrology as it is in Mythology. It is the planet of day-to-day expression and communication. I hope this puts this Rev. 12 notion to rest. The verses in Rev. 12:1-5 are not a PROPHECY....Its giving us a Code to figure out the clues needed to decipher the PROPHECY in Rev. 12:6-17, which is the actual PROPHECY. We see a SIGN IN HEAVEN in Rev. 15 also.........Rev. 15:1 And I saw another sign in heaven, great and marvellous, seven angels having the seven last plagues; for in them is filled up the wrath of God. RECKON THIS IS ANOTHER ALIGNMENT OF STARS? A Sign means a Vision of course. This stuff about Sep. 23 is Bogus and it is Astrology.
  14. Rev. 12: Heavenly Sign to appear in 2017 - What could it mean?

    This is Astrology. Don't buy into it brother. The Prophecy in Rev. 12 is about Israel fleeing into the Wilderness when Satan is kicked out of Heaven at the 3.5 Year mark of the Tribulation period. The prophecy has NOTHING to do with Israel (Woman) have a baby (Jesus) and the Dragon (trying to kill the Baby via Herod). That is all past events. These events are told to set up the TRUE PROPHECY via a CODE since you couldn't have John telling the Church that God was going to protect Israel, since Rome had just destroyed the Temple and the City of Jerusalem, that would have been seen by Rome as SEDITION. The CODE was set, then we have to research the Old Testament to figure out the Code (Genesis 37:9). After research we see that the WOMAN is Israel and we now understand Israel has the male-child, whom the Dragon tries to kill, but of course an Angel warned Joseph and Mary and they fled to Egypt. Then of course the male-child Jesus ascended unto Heaven. All of this a "SIGN IN HEAVEN" is clearly from Astrology. I have researched it. Plus they fib, a professor has researched this and found this has happened Four times in just the last 1000 years. This is Astrology, it is not of God.
  15. Antichrist/Sea Beast.

    1. The Beast that comes from the Sea (of Gentile Nations) vs the False Prophet that comes out of the earth/LAND (Israel) is a Metaphor. 2. The Red Dragon is only telling us that Satan is the God of this world. The Beast with Seven Heads is the Nations that come against Israel, the dragon is Satan. Satan is over the world/Babylon. 3. Ten Horns and Ten diadems means the same thing. Kings with Crowns are Kings. 4. Satan told Jesus in Luke 4 that he was given power over all the Kingdoms of this world. 5. There is one Week Agreement between many. The Anti-Christ breaks the Agreements in the middle of the week and thus he becomes a BEAST for 42 Months, ONLY. ( The Seven Headed Beast is thus REBORN after not being around for 1900 years. You can have no BEAST if there is no Israel in the Land, Israel was a Dead Men's Bones (Ezekiel) then they came alive again (1948). Thus the BEAST is Revived. 6. The BEAST was Slain and Revived....one Head was no more, for 1900 years, then it becomes alive again when the Anti-Christ conquers Jerusalem. He is given power over the Saints for 42 Months. 7. Of course the World who takes the Mark of the Beast worships him as God.