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  1. This is an excellent overall sorta mini dissertation on the Tribulation. As I go through I will pick out a few places that we have differences because its the objective to study and come to truths, but I find many more pluses here that I agree with over all. I might add this as per Tribulation, I think we forget what Jesus' own words told us, thus we might lose sight of a few truths. John 16:33 These things I have spoken unto you, that in me ye might have peace. In the world ye shall have tribulation: but be of good cheer; I have overcome the world. So Tribulation is with us always in this world, as Jesus told his disciples it would be, so we have to be very, very careful about proclaiming this or that is what is absolutely meant by the 3.5 years of Greatest Ever Troubles as per what Jesus spoke to us about as the Greatest ever Troubles, and as per what Gabriel spoke unto Daniel about in Dan. 12 as per the Greatest Ever Troubles. I see it like this, we have continual tribulation, thus the Church Age Tribulation will be a 2000 some odd year tribulation, then after the Rapture there will be a 70th week Troubles like unto the Church Age and then there will be a 3.5 year Greatest Ever Troubles spoken of by Jesus/Gabriel/Daniel. I will use a demonstration to kind of show my approach/understanding. ==========================================================================----........ Double line is the Church Age. Single line is the 70th week, the dots are the Greatest Ever Troubles. All are Tribulation, the Church had many millions killed via the Church Age no doubt. The 70th weeks first 3.5 years will be troubles, because the Jews are being PUSHED/FORCED into Agreements {covenants} they might not be OK with, its a fake peace, but as Poland knows, a fake peace can be a troubled time also, because Hitler was maneuvering into a position where he could ultimately attack them, And of course the last 3.5 years will be a time of death and conquering of the world and of the 2/3 Jews who fail to repent, the 1/3 God protects in Petra. With all this in mind, now think about the Great Multitude in Heaven in Rev. 7:9-16, who are they that came out of the Great Tribulation ? Did they come out of the Greatest Ever Troubles {Impossible} or out of the 2000 year Church Age via the Rapture ? It can only be the latter.Those under the Altar are not judged until Rev. 20:4, then they live and reign with Christ 1000 years, but only the ones who failed to take the Mark of the Beast. 2000>7. Great can mean greatest troubles ever, or greater time period. Jesus tells those under the Altar at the 5th Seal that they must wait until all their brothers were killed in like manner as they were before they got vengeance. Your point on the Jews not accepting the Anti-Christ is spot on, I will go over the rest later. I needed to point out that I think the Great Tribulation can be Great in more than one way, it can mean the Greatest Ever Troubles and it can mean the Great Church Age Tribulation. I think Rev. 7:0-16 is speaking about the Church Age Saints who get raptured to Heaven.
  2. The Flood is an Army, the Anti-Christs Army. Just like Dan. 9:26 speaks of a Flood, its an Army flooding the zone. This is a well known fact. Thus the earth helping the woman {Israel} beckons back to when Israel fled Egypt, the Earth helped Israel then, a Wall of Fire and Parting of the Sea are both instances where the "Earth" helped the Woman, likewise, when Satan sends the Anti-Christ after the woman/Israel, the EARTH HELPS the Woman again, just like it did during the Exodus.
  3. Daniel's prophecy is about the Four Beasts or 5 counting the Little Horn. If we agree that Babylon, Persia, Greece and Rome were all Beasts and the end time Anti-Christ/Little Horn is also a Beast {and it has to be a separate Beast} then and only then does Dan. 7:11 fit. It says his BODY will be DESTROYED and he will be cast into HELL FIRE. Nations/Kingdoms/Beasts aren't killed and cast into hell. Dan. 7:11 I beheld then because of the voice of the great words which the horn spake: I beheld even till the beast was slain, and his body destroyed, and given to the burning flame. 12 As concerning the rest of the beasts, they had their dominion taken away: yet their lives were prolonged for a season and time. It goes like this.....the Anti-Christ/Little Horn is Killed and thrown into Hell when Jesus returns...........AS FOR THE OTHER Beasts {Babylon, Persia, Greece and Rome.....and even Egypt and Assyria as per Revelation and as per reality, but Daniel was only given the Beasts going forward, so as concerning the rest of the Beasts indeed refer to Babylon, Persia, Greece and Rome}. It says as concerning the REST of the Beasts they LOSE there Dominion {POWER/to Beast means to Dominate the Mediterranean Sea Region}. YET their lives as Nations/City States etc. etc. yet live on {Babylon was where Alexander the Great lived when he died, so it lived on for a time and a season until like is Prophesied, it became a nomads land where no one dwelt, Persia is modern day Iran, Greece is still a Nation as is Rome/Italy. So the rest of the Beasts yet lived on for a TIME & a SEASON. BUT.....The Last Beast is not like the other Nation/City/State Beasts, he is a MAN, he is cast into Hellfire after being killed, but hes never allowed to go to the Grave, thus Rev. 19:20 says hes cast Alive into hell......which means hes never allowed to go to sleep in the grave. Both Dan. 7:11 and Rev. 19:20 are therefore correct. Hes killed, just as Dan. 7:11 says and hes cast alive into hell, not bundled into the grave like all others and judged in 1000 years.
  4. WOW...I just posted my response and you posted almost verbatim. At least where its found.
  5. Revelation 14 verse 1, The Wheat {144,000 on Mt Zion} = Israel who REMAIN on earth until the end with the Tares or those Jesus places in the Winepress in verses 18-20. Rev. 14:1 And I looked, and, lo, a Lamb stood on the mount Sion, and with him an hundred forty and four thousand, having his Father's name written in their foreheads. Rev. 14:18 And another angel came out from the altar, which had power over fire; and cried with a loud cry to him that had the sharp sickle, saying, Thrust in thy sharp sickle, and gather the clusters of the vine of the earth; for her grapes are fully ripe. 19 And the angel thrust in his sickle into the earth, and gathered the vine of the earth, and cast it into the great winepress of the wrath of God {Wicked Tares}. 20 And the winepress was trodden without the city, and blood came out of the winepress, even unto the horse bridles, by the space of a thousand and six hundred furlongs. The Wheat {Israel} remains ON EARTH with the Wicked Tares until the very end. The Wicked are BOUND UP {into the grave} where they will remain for 1000 years until they are Judged {BURNED UP}. The Rapture happens in verse 14, this is the Harvest chapter. The bible is about Israel, we are shown the End Time Harvest of Israel whom Jesus returns to save from the Beast, then he defeats the Wicked at Armageddon. But in the middle of the chapter, in a sort of soliloquy, we see Jesus ON A CLOUD thrusting in the sickle to reap the Harvest of the Church/his Bride. Rev. 14:14 And I looked, and behold a white cloud, and upon the cloud one sat like unto the Son of man, having on his head a golden crown, and in his hand a sharp sickle. 15 And another angel came out of the temple, crying with a loud voice to him that sat on the cloud, Thrust in thy sickle, and reap: for the time is come for thee to reap; for the harvest of the earth is ripe. The Wheat and the Tares happens here, in Rev. ch. 14, after the Rapture of the Church.
  6. I think you miss the contextual context of Jesus' point brother. Hes speaking of pouring out of the Sacrifice on the Mercy Altar IN HEAVEN. It has nothing to do with the Marriage Supper per se. The Marriage Supper is Armageddon, so its on earth. John ch. 20 shows what Jesus means, with a little digging. Jesus told Mary, Touch me not, for I have not yet ascended unto the Father. His point was she would DEFILE the Sacrifice if she touched him with her sin flesh, and it could not be accepted by God. 8 days later, Jesus told Doubting Thomas to touch his wounds, so he had went to the Father and offered the offering. So the Passover is offered and Jesus is that Passover for 2000 or so years, so Jesus will not Drink Wine nor Eat Bread until he returns to Jerusalem, {The Kingdom of God is at hand on earth}. Its complicated. But that really has nothing to do with what I spoke of above. The 7 Feasts are the History of the World as foretold in Leviticus 23. Spring Feasts all Fulfilled. 1. Jesus is OUR PASSOVER..........FACTS. He died for our sins, his blood makes/keeps us whole 2. He was without Sin {Unleavened Bread} 3. He rose from the Grave {First-fruits}. 4. We are in the Pentecost/Feast of Weeks/ Harvest of Souls. Notice its all alone on the Calendar ? Gentile Church Age. The Last Trump ends the HARVEST. Fall Feasts 5. Feast of Trumpets. Makes Announcements.......Harvest Ends.........Atonement's at hand. 6. Feast of Atonement, Israel Repents. 7. Feast of Tabernacles, God {Jesus is God} Dwells in Israel/Jerusalem 1000 years. I threw that in to help people grasp my overall points. The points stands on its own. Israel REPENTS see Zechariah 13:8-9, 2/3 do not repent and DIE and 1/3 REPENT and God protects them in Petra see Rev. ch. 12. See Ezekiel 37, God says he brings Israel back to life. God can't lie. God Bless..............P.S. Brothers I need your prayers, just got a Prostrate Cancer result, mid level threat. I think a 7 or maybe an 8 on the scale, got to have tests to see of its spread first. I am ready to go home when my time comes, but I would rather stay here and continue preaching his word. But His will be done. Amen.
  7. Where do you guys get this stuff from ? The bible tells us that Israel will REPENT during the 70th week. The Bible tells us that God saw Israel as Dead Men's Bones {Ezekiel 37} until near the end times and that there would be a time period of the Gentiles {where the mantle will be given to them to take the Gospel to the world whilst Israel were blinded AND thus Dead unto God}. We are now in the Church Age {Pentecost}. Jesus fulfilled the Passover, Unleavened Bread {he was without sin} and the First-fruits {first risen}. The Feast of Trumps ALWAYS ENDS the Feast of Week/Pentecost. Thus the LAST TRUMP. The Feast of Trumps did only one thing, ANNOUNCE THINGS, thus when the Trump is blown Jesus calls the Church home just like Rev. 4:1 says, and Pentecost ends just like in the Seven Feasts. Next comes the Feast of Atonement, and guess what happens after the Church is Raptured to Heaven !! Israel is called unto repentance by the Two-witnesses, Israel ATONES. Then after Jesus returns Israel DWELLS with God {1000 year reign in Jerusalem}. Tabernacle means to Dwell with God, thus the Feast of Tabernacle is the 7th Feast. There is no apostate Israel as you assume, God sees them as Dead.........then God QUICKENS THEM and brings them Alive again just like He told us He would do in Ezekiel 37. What God says is alive and made whole is NOT APOSTATE !!
  8. Who cares, I understand God, so I suppose like all words they have a stated meaning. The Beast doesn't FIT the RCC and never has, I discounted that 25-30 years ago. It doesn't even get close to passing the smell test. TBH it kinda makes me wonder about people who can't see through it. Its something a juvenile Christian might have trouble with, but a Christian on MEAT should be way past that. JMHO.
  9. This is not a guess brother, you are following men's traditions that have been around for 50 years at least. You might be "GUESSING" that this is the correct answer, but its not. The 7 Hills can't be on ONE CITY, because its the 7 Powers who ruled over Israel/Mediterranean Sea Region. The Kingdoms being REDUCED to Kings has ONE PURPOSE, to show that the Last Beast will be a MAN.........Not a Kingdom like the others, just like Rev. 13 says, the number of the "Beast" is then number of a MAN {666}. God is 777, humans are 666........its a Human Being, not a Kingdom........BUT WHY ? Because the Last Beast will be the ONLY BEAST of them all who has ONE MAN who both ARISES and FALLS as the Beast. That is why the 7 Kingdoms are REDUCED to Kings who Fall, thus the Last Beast will be one who ARISES and then also one who FALLS and is cast into hell fire just like Dan. 7:11 says and just like Rev. 19:20 says. The reason people get Revelation wrong is they don't understand, you can't go down proper roads with BAD ESCHATOLOGY. The Harlot = ALL FALSE RELIGION of ALL TIME.
  10. Correct.....Daniel was shown the coming 5 Beasts {counting the Little Horn/Anti-Christ who REVIVES the Dead Beast by Conquering Israel/Mediterranean Sea Region once again. The bible is about God's Relationship with Israel. Thus the Beasts over them are shown down through history, until God {the Author of the bible} says Israel are as DEAD MEN'S BONES unto him for nigh 2000 years, just as Ezekiel prophesied in chapter 37. So once Israel is born again or comes alive again unto God, and after the Rapture........when Israel is once again Conquered along with the rest of the Mediterranean Sea Region, this will be the first time since Rome that Israel were Beasted over along with this same power {Demonic Beast Power/Apollyon} ruling the whole Mediterranean Sea Region. So Daniel is LOOKING FORWARD from his time to the coming 5 Beasts. John is looking BACKWARDS to all 7 of the PREVIOUS BEASTS. Its just that simple. Even when they are mentioned in Rev. 13, we see the Leopard first, then the Bear and lastly the Lion. It's REVERSED. John is looking back through time. Daniel is looking forward.
  11. The Two-witnesses start witnessing 75 days before the Midpoint to 75 days before the Beast dies. Thus the Beasts 75 days is parallel except for the 75 day "offshoot". Thus they start during what would be the Fourth Year, but before the Midway point. The Jews, though the whole world will see them on worldwide tv. The Church has been Raptured, the Jews are now in the final week of the 70th week, thus their repentance is at hand, they must repent before the 70th week ends according to the Daniel 9 prophecy. Revelation 11 explains who they come to, if one can read the coded language, its like a "read between the lines" verse in a modern rock song, lets say "Lucy in the Sky with Diamonds" or LSD. Rev. 11:1 And there was given me a reed like unto a rod: and the angel stood, saying, Rise, and measure the temple of God, and the altar, and them that worship therein. 2 But the court which is without the temple leave out, and measure it not; for it is given unto the Gentiles: and the holy city shall they tread under foot forty and two months. 3 And I will give power unto my two witnesses, and they shall prophesy a thousand two hundred and threescore days, clothed in sackcloth. I didn't use to see this.....but then once I saw it, it was so obvious. Once I understood Rev. 11 is a Parenthetical Citation chapter about the 1260 days of the Two-witnesses ministry and nothing more, I understood the first three verses was giving us a clue who the Two-witnesses came to testify unto. Verse 1 talks about Measuring something. Measure the Temple, the altar, AND them {Jews} that worship therein. {God is telling John the Two-witnesses will TARGET the Jews with their witness.......specifically. TAKE MEASURE !! Verse 2, God tells John not to MEASURE the outer court for it is given to the Gentiles { God will not send the Two-witnesses unto the Gentiles, the Church is in Heaven, the REMNANT Church of Rev. 12:17 have already repented, they were called long ago by the Holy Spirit and tarried, and God isn't going to try and reach the Wicked Tares per se, their hearts hate God like Pharaoh did, with hardened hearts.} I think this answers the "Will they testify to the Gentiles" question already so I can skip that portion. I only see that the can produce Plagues and have the ability to shut off rain as long as they like. What I think people miss in general here is, the Two-witnesses PRAY DOWN all the Plagues of God, this is why the World HATES and FEARS them and thus Rejoices at their death. They die at the end of the 2nd Woe, but have already sent up they prayer for the 3rd and Last Woe {All 7 Vials} before they die. Norice in Chapter 8, prayers from the Saints come up unto God's nostrils, then God hurls down fire because of this prayer. So they PRAY DOWN Plagues for their entire ministry basically. But the first 75 days is spent getting Israel to repent. Very true. You are on the right track. All this timing is shown in the 1335 which comes first, the 1290, which happens 30 days before the 1260. S0 75 days is the staggered portion of days. ...................................................................................................Day 1185 the 2W show up...........day 1290 the AoD happens, the False Prophets sets up an Image of the E.U. President {Beast} then on day..........1260 the Anti-Christ Conquers Jerusalem/Mediterranean Sea REgion to become THE BEAST. The actual days going forward will be the 1186, the 1291 and the 1261. God is counting BACKWARDS to the END/Second Coming in his Daniel 12 revelation via Gabriel as per to HOW LONG TILL THESE WONDERS END !! {Second Coming} There will be at least THREE EARTHQUAKES.
  12. They don't see what you are pushing. No one buys this stuff brother but you and a few more who are just not hearing the voice of God in this IMHO.
  13. It really doesn't matter WHO it is, but we know Elijah is one of the 2W's because of what Jesus said and Malachi 4:5-6. We think the other is Moses because of the transfiguration. Remember, their job is to get Israel to REPENT BEFORE the DOTL, so what better two but the Spiritual leader of the Jews and the Law Giver of the Jews, Moses !! I don't see Christian hate for the Jews in modern Christianity, some, but we mostly understand God's plans now way better than people did a 100 years ago. For 100's of years a lot of churches forbade its members from reading the Gospel. Some were therefore indoctrinated, it took time, the computer helped, to come to the truths, that God called the Jews, they failed God, as we all do on our own, but the Church by trusting in Jesus' Blood learned to let God do His will through us. God's will is stated, He will use the Gentile Church to reach mankind, then He will call the Church home and call Israel unto Repentance. Way too many people have ideas OF THEM, not of God, it is a shame. Israel repents 75 days before the Middle of the week when the first seal is opened. The AoD happens at the 1290, not the 1260, that is 30 days before the 1290....the 1335 is when the Two-witnesses show up. Daniel 12 says exactly what I just showed you, if one studies it in depth. WHEN WILL THESE THINGS END Lord ? Verse 8.................Daniel asks thee same thing the Angel asked Jesus (Man in linen) and Jesus' first answer was that the Jewish people {Holy Peoples} power will be taken away 1260 days {Time, times and half} before these WONDERS END {Second Coming}. So likewise, the 1290 and 1335 are a set number of days from EVENTS until THESE WONDERS END {Second Coming} also. Now it makes sense, Jesus wouldn't give a warning telling the Jews to flee Judea when they are getting Conquered, he gives a 30 days HEADS UP !! Jesus is of course ALL KNOWING !! If I knew the future even I wouldn't give a ZERO MINUTE WARNING !! And I am just a dumb human being comparatively speaking. The False Prophet places the IMAGE in the Temple at the 1290.
  14. A star (Angel) falls from Heaven and poisons the water in Rev. 8. Rev. 9 is Woe # 1 and Woe # 2. We see that Woe 2 is the 200 million army. They kill 1/3 of Wicked Mankind. They are Angelic beings that have ZERO to do with the 6th Vial. The wicked were killed in verse 20 and the rest STILL REFUSED TO REPENT. The 200 Million are Angelic beings, they even have Breastplates identical to the Jewish Priests, whereas the Breastplates of the Demons in Woe 1 are Iron Plated. Most people truly don't get the Book of Revelation because they follow the old men's traditions instead of asking God to show them what it means. When we defer to men we get mens ideas/ideals. I did the same thing for 25 years until about 5 years ago. And I was called to a prophetic bent.
  15. Its an Angelic Army delivering plagues of God. Rev. 9:20 And the rest of the men which were not killed by these plagues yet repented not of the works of their hands, that they should not worship devils, and idols of gold, and silver, and brass, and stone, and of wood: which neither can see, nor hear, nor walk: Nowhere does it infer these are humans. People in error tie this to the 6th Vial, they are not the same. Those are humans gathering to battle at Armageddon, these are clearly PLAGUES FROM God.....it says so.
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