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  1. Revelation Man

    The 1260 and 1290/1335 Days

    We can't overlook that in all of chapter 11 we are shown the King(s) of the South vs. the King(s) of the North over and over. The end is not going to change, IMHO. The King of the North in this instance is the European Union President. So why would this whole King of the North vs. King of the South or hese Syrian Wars be rebelant then ? Because this MAN/Beast/Little Horn/Anti-Christ, will be born in Greece, {Dan. 8} he will be an Assyrian (Isaiah 10, I think of Turkish descent) and he thus as a citizen of the E.U. comes to power out of the "head" of the Fourth Beast (in the E.U. as Dan. 7 says). This qualifies him to be the King of the North, hes born in Greece and thus in the LATTER TIME (Dan. 8:23-34) of their Kingdom when the transgressors are come full (God's bowls of wrath have filled up) a King of fierce countenance and understanding DARK SENTENCES (Riddles and Conundrums) will stand up. His power will be might, but not his own power....etc. etc. Thus he is a Grecian, he will come to power in the E.U. however because it is the the Country he is a subject/citizen of as per where the power resides. The 10 Kings (10 many times represents fullness) give their power unto him. Antiochus Epiphanes is a forerunner to this Ant-Christ, and I think Jason is a forerunner to the False Prophet who will be a High Priest. .
  2. Revelation Man

    Textual approach to Revelation 1:1

    I think God gave this to Jesus who is God, but only the Father knows when He is going to send Jesus, so likewise maybe Jesus has no concept of the future else he would know when he is to return. In other words if you knew the future on everything, but I was supposed to send you at a future point in time to a certain place, without you knowing the date, wouldn't I have to also block you seeing the future, else you would know the date I am sending you back ? The most important mistake via translation in Rev. 1:1 is the fact that many people say Jesus states he will be coming back shortly and thus they derive an Eschatology that is off kilter because they actually believe that is what Jesus stated, even though intuitively we are supposed to know that only the Father knows the time of Jesus' return. So this needed further study. I thus found that the word SHORTLY was derived from 2 Greek words as per the translation. One Greek word was EN and basically means "at a fixed point in time" the other Greek word was TACHOS and means "speedily/swiftly or in haste". I say all that to say this, it matters how we interpret or translate the words from the bible. Now instead of this saying Jesus will come shortly, what it actually says is this, "At a fixed point in time, Jesus will come speedily" in other words, Jesus is saying, at a future point in time, unknown by me, the Father will send me and I will come in haste.
  3. Number 1, I never buy secular writers, I have been told that that stat is bogus but haven't really looked into it in depth. Young people being indoctrinate by college professors might mean they never really come unto Christ to start with, and that in no wise stops the Gospel from going forth unto all the world and thus growing. Churches CLOSE & OPEN, I never take anyones stats at face value, there are probably being used to try and influence young people to SEE that Christianity is a losing, fake lifestyle in theor opinion. I see the Church as Growing until the Rapture comes, I would never fall for someone likes this' propaganda. Your premise is wrong to start with, this is THE RAPTURE. The rest is not relevant after that is it ?
  4. The Church and Israel come to Faith at different times as a whole, the Jews can come to Christ now, but this is THE KEY.........They have been blinded IN PART until the fullness of the Gentiles be come in. This is real clear, most Jews are blinded until the Gentile Church's time is fulfilled, that means A FEW Jews will come to Christ all along the way, see Paul, Peter, modern Messianic Jews etc., but the Jews IN GENERAL, will be blind until the Rapture. That flies over their head like a 747, but they don't hear a thing. Jesus gave us the timing in the Marriage, the Wedding Chambers are used for 7 days (7 years) but the Bridegroom only goes to get the Bride when the Father instructs him to go, thus Jesus knows not the day = Rapture. Jesus does know the EXACT DAY of the Second Coming, he knows that from the time the Beast Conquers Jerusalem he will return to Mt Zion in 1260 days or 42 months. They don't understand this concept. One is known (Second Coming) the other is not known (Rapture). They let the UNDERSTANDING of others overwhelm their critical thinking. I learned, you can never receive any understanding, until you get the approval of the Holy Spirit, if you ask and he's silent, we should just say, well I think or this is my opinion, but I haven't been given that by the holy spirit yet.
  5. Reckon they know those who are Raptured must DIE ? When they see the Rapture, if they miss it, will they even understand the millions of deaths = The Rapture ? Of course like others, some of them will make the Rapture and some will miss it. You can have a wrong belief and be filled with the Spirit, or understand everything and put off the holy spirit via wilful sinning. I hope God places them close to me as we are zooming to Heaven, SMILE.
  6. And he's still a Demon/Fallen Angel, he's not the Anti-Christ. I understand who Lucifer was, but now he is on opposite teams from God.
  7. You just don't understand scriptures, nor the fact that the Church was kept a "MYSTERY" to the Prophets of old. I don't understand how a Christian can't see what is evident. Now as per Christendom, they all agree with me, not you. I wonder why ? And you are 100 percent correct, I listen to the Holy Spirit, NOT MEN, no use in even trying to change my mind once I have been led to a truth by the Spirit.
  8. Satan is a Demon, he used a Serpent to whisper unto Adam and Eve, the snake was a real snake, and the Anti-Christ is a real man. The Dragon = a Figurative being that Satan is described as, just like Greece was shown as a Leopard but were not a Leopard etc. etc. Satan is Lucifer a Fallen Angel, the Anti-Christ will be born (was born) to a human mother.
  9. What's very simple to understand is you just don't seem to grasp the basics. You don't understand God is perfect in Symmetry, he doesn't start things in the middle as you suppose. And NOWHERE does God say His wrath starts at Seal #6, you read what MEN have seen in a VISION by John "say" and assume they actually are declaring when God's Wrath begins, when they do NO SUCH THING, they are just shown to be of an understanding that God's Wrath has come upon them. Well, by that point in time in which they are seen they are in God's Wrath, but they have been in God's Wrath since Seal #1, nowhere do they state God's Wrath started at Seal #6, that is just YOU and OTHERS not grasping the bible properly and assuming things you ought not assume. Since the Day of the Lord is 3.5 years in length, of course the Day of God's Wrath has come !! It lasts from the First Seal until the 7th Vial so OF COURSE THEY ARE IN THE WRATH OF GOD...........BANG HEAD come on brother !! The verse states NO SUCH THING about a specific day, you just put forth your understanding as factual, even though it's not described as such. The Day of the Lord is a 3.5 year period of God's Wrath. Again, you just misconstrue the bible here it seems. If these men knew who this dictator really was they would not follow him, but their LACK OF KNOWLEDGE of what is going on, in no wise changes anything, Jesus OPENED THE SEAL that RELEASED this tyrant, thus it's the Wrath of the Lamb, but these men on earth have no clue who he is !! Thus when these wars that he starts kill 1.5 to 2 billion people they just assume it's another mad man like Hitler, that is why 3 of the Kings who gave him their power/kingdom, have to be uprooted, they realize they have messed up and try to overthrow this tyrant. Then the 5th Seal is a Spiritual Seal, its a testimony against the tyrant by the Martyrs, no MAN can see that either.......but then when they finally see the celestial prophetic, foretold events, it hits them WE ARE IN THE WRATH OF GOD !! It doesn't mean it just started, it just means they FIGURED IT OUT !! I bet I have wrote this here 30 times, it ought to be easy to grasp, but of course it doesn't fit peoples erroneous Rapture theory, so they ignore it, again and again. But I am after the truth, not my own theories being puffed up. The White Horse is a Metaphor, the Anti-Christ goes forth Conquering, this is what a White Horse represents, but he has a DIFFERENT CROWN and a Bow which actually means SIMPLE FABRIC in the Greek, I finally understood this to mean he's is NOT MAJESTIC like Jesus who is seen in Rev. 19 as Majestic, with MANY CROWNS which are Kingly Crowns, unlike the Anti-Christ's which are like a prize won. Jesus returns at the 7th Vial, no one is saying he returns here, he's already Raptured the Church before the 70th week started. Not understanding the Rapture is a REAL PROBLEM for you guys. Jesus doesn't Return BEFORE the Trumpets are blown, he returns for the Church by meeting us in the air before the 70th week, see Rev. 14:14, then he returns to fight the Armageddon Battle via Rev. 14:18-20, but that really happens in Rev. chapter 16, Rev. 14 is a Parenthetical Citation. Once again, those people John sees in the vision saying they are IN GOD'S WRATH has nothing to do with when it started. You could see me running a Marathon and I could say I am IN A MARATHON, does that mean I just stated ? No of course not !! That is how you are looking at this however. You are observing in 2D instead of 3D, I might be looking at 7D (IF THERE IS SUCH A DIMENSION). Jesus is God and God is Jesus. The Wrath of the Lamb is the Wrath of God. Jesus is God. All of the Seal, Trumpets and Vials COME FORTH by Jesus opening the 7 Seals !! That's is why it's called the Lambs Wrath, it's describing who is opening the Seals, THE LAMB. The 7th Seal has ALL SEVEN TRUMPETS in it, and the 5th, 6th, and 7th Trumpets are the THREE WOES..............The 7th Woe is ALL SEVEN VIALS !! All the Wrath comes forth from the 7 Seals !! Jesus opens the Seals, it's the Lambs Wrath, Jesus is God !! And on and on and on. That's cool, but I understand the context, the First Seal starts God's Wrath, He's perfect in His Symmetry. Once again, you repeat the same mistake time after time. The Wrath starts in the Middle of the week, that is why the Beast rules 42 Months. God built and designed everything around this 3.5 year period so we can understand these things easier !! Again, you are great at repeating the same thing, but the facts are still the facts brother. Saying something 10 times doesn't change anything. I know you are just trying to emphasize a point, but I understood that pont long ago, but I have to stick to just the facts...Signed Joe Friday. You get so caught up in these supposed truths you miss the obvious, its called Men's Traditions. You are CONVINCED, you are 100 percent correct on this, so much so you miss the obvious brother. Matthew 24:9...............Matthew 24:1-14 has ZERO to do with the end times. Matthew 24:15-31 is the END TIMES and the Second Coming, but you try to mesh them together and that is a fatal flaw as per understanding the timing of Matthew 24. But in reality, once again not understanding the Rapture throws you off. The Gospel must be preached unto all the world and THEN THE END (70th Week) will come, meaning th Church is thus Raptured at that point in time. The Sun and Moon as per the Darkness gets worse as we go, did you know that ? Rev. 6:12 And I beheld when he had opened the sixth seal, and, lo, there was a great earthquake; and the sun became black as sackcloth of hair, and the moon became as blood; 13 And the stars of heaven fell unto the earth, even as a fig tree casteth her untimely figs, when she is shaken of a mighty wind. Rev. 8:12 And the fourth angel sounded, and the third part of the sun was smitten, and the third part of the moon, and the third part of the stars; so as the third part of them was darkened, and the day shone not for a third part of it, and the night likewise. Rev. 16:10 And the fifth angel poured out his vial upon the seat of the beast; and his kingdom was full of darkness; and they gnawed their tongues for pain, Jesus returns IMMEDIATELY AFTER TROUBLES OF THOSE DAYS............Well, yea, but with the Church/Bride in tow. Or a person just has to think instead of following what men tells him. This isn't even a hard riddle to be honest. Jesus ALLOWS a Tyrant to COME FORTH and to kill 1.5 to 2 billion people, and there is also Famine. Not understanding God doesn't start things in the middle is very troubling for you. Jesus is OPENING THE SEALS........But it's not God's Wrath !! The Great Tribulation is Jacob's Troubles, the Church will have been Raptured before the 70th week. This again throws you off big time. Those Martyrs are the people who came to Christ Jesus after the Rapture. Rev. 12:17 tells us they are the REMNANT of the SEED who keep the commandments of Jesus !! How can you not get that ? Remnant = SMALL PART THAT'S LEFT !! Of the Seed means of Jesus Christ THE SEED that takes away the sin of the world. The Remnant Christians are who will be the Martyrs under the Altar at the 5th Seal, the Jews who flee to Petra will be PROTECTED. Wrong sir, the Rapture confuses everything for you. This is the Wrath of God, no men had to go through this, only the people who rejected Christ go through this, the EVIL men who love the Beast, the Jews who refuse to repent, the Jews who REPENT are protected in Petra, and the NEW CONVERTS who MISSED THE MARRIAGE CALL !! They must now lay down their lives as Martyrs for Christ Jesus, as did many of the Early Christians, it is not God's Wrath that got them in this position, they refused to be filled with the OIL REMEMBER ? They are the 5 virgins with NO OIL !! The Anti-Christ being RELEASED is God's Wrath on mankind, indeed. If those Christians converts are smart enough, I imagine they will be living in Petra !! I would be if I missed the Rapture. They were Killed by the Anti-Christ, of course they desire "REVENGE" for their deaths, but God's Wrath has ZERO to do with revenging them does it ? It is God's vengeance. God tells them in no uncertain terms they must wait patiently. But we need the NEXT VERSE to see that don't we ? Rev. 6:11 And white robes were given unto every one of them; and it was said unto them, that they should rest yet for a little season, until their fellowservants also and their brethren, that should be killed as they were, should be fulfilled. God will avenge all the Prophets who were killed in His own due time, over a 3.5 year period ending with the 7th Vial. These people were killed because they failed to make the Rapture, thus they must endure. The Marriage doors were shut unto them. This Hebrew word used for BEFORE means IN THE PRESENCE OF !! The FACE OF......No use going down that road again. Greatest Troubles Ever !! Meaning more people killed than ever before it seems. These things aren't that hard, you just start with a default rapture theory. Verses taken out of CONTEXT.............WATCH: Jesus stated we would have CONTINUAL TRIBULATION ALWAYS !! So no kidding. As a matter of fact the GREAT TRIBULATION spoken of in Rev. 7:9-17 is about the Raptured Church coming out of the 2000 year TRIBULATION Church Age....See how I reverse these things ? WITH TRUTHS, VIA CONTEXT. The Church has had continual persecution, Christians in the Middle East in places like Egypt are being killed to his very day. THINK brother !! Stop allowing Men's Traditions to lead you all the time. Jesus warned us about Men's Traditions. Again, there is a 2000 some odd year Church Age we go through and it is THE GREAT TRIBULATION as per Rev. chapter 7, whence the Church came out of as in 2000>7. And there is he 7 Year of GREATEST EVER TROUBLES which the Church will not go through because it is God's Wrath. Looking in the mirror ? These kind of quotes I see a silly tbh brother. I trust you believe honestly what you are saying. I have studied it all in depth however and understand when the Rapture is brother, ou quoting this changes nothing..... God Bless.
  10. Rev. 19:20 And the beast was taken, and with him the false prophet that wrought miracles before him, with which he deceived them that had received the mark of the beast, and them that worshipped his image. These both were cast alive into a lake of fire burning with brimstone. Now let's find out when Satan is cast into hell fire. I think he's cast into the bottomless pit for 1000 years first, LET'S SEE !! Rev.. 20:10 And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are, and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever. I find it odd that you think Satan is the Anti-Christ when the word says different. The Anti-Christ and False Prophet are TWO MEN....Satan is a Demon. He is not the Anti-Christ...........he's a Demon
  11. I just have the knowledge of the bible brother.....Nothing trips me up.
  12. I missed nothing, I know exactly what you were inferring, you missed the point I made, Matthew 24:1-14 IS NOT End Times, it happens during the 2000 some odd year church age period. It's not past, you and I are in the Pentecost as we speak, when the TRUMPET BLOWS we will be Raptured and that ends the Harvest. Then Israel will Atone and Jesus will TABERNACLE (DWELL) with them for 1000 years. You do know the Gospels are 2000 years old right ? So a 2500 year old uttering is OLD, but something wrote in the New Testament isn't old !!
  13. No sir, the Departure must come FIRST........AND ALSO........The Man of Sin must ALSO COME BEFORE, the Wrath of God Comes. So the whole point Paul is making is Heyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy, don't worry !! You can't be in God's Wrath............LOOK HERE.............Both of these things must happen BEFORE the Wrath of God comes upon the world. The two things are 1.) The Departure and 2.) The Anti-Christ. The Wrath of God begins with the Man of Sin. Firstly, where do you get SEALED FROM ? And if you are speaking of the 144,000 they don't get Raptured, and if you are speaking of the Martyrs they missed the Rapture and thus had to pay with the lives for their Faith, they repent AFTER the Rapture, thus they become Martyrs. The Meaning is DEPARTURE.............But it's the Departure of the Church, not the Departure from THE FAITH, it's not God's fault you guys misunderstood what is departing. IS IT ? Perdition means GOES TO DESTRUCTION (Hell), and we know that Judas was a son of perdition as is the Anti-Christ, God knew their choices, thus he told Judas to go and do what he was meant to do, likewise the Anti-Christ is destined for hell, because God knows all, thus He tells us these two times about these two mens destiny, He also knows your and my destiny. Their actions make them destined for hell. Yes, the Anti-Christ is a son of perdition also. The Anti-Christ must come first......Satan is cast down but he's not the Anti-Christ.
  14. Revelation Man

    The Great Whore is N.Y.C., Change My Mind

    It's Metaphoric in nature. The world's economy is shown as a STRONG PORT brought low by the Judgments of God.....TRANSLATION.....the Plagues of God DESTROYS the World's Economy. The just give us this picture in prose, instead of telling us exactly what God is going to do.
  15. Words change their meaning over time, everyone should know that. Gay meant happy 50 years ago now it means a homosexual perverted lifestyle. The First Seven English translations translated it DEPARTED as did the Latin Vulgate via the word dicessio. What is the subject ? "A Gathering unto the Lord" So what is DEPARTING ? This isn't really that hard to see, it pretty obvious that the Church is being spoken of, not THE FAITH, else why would Paul tell them not to fear ? Christians can't go through the Wrath of God he tells them, first comes the Departure and then the Anti-Christ will come forth, both of these things have to happen before the Wrath of God can come !! It sure isn't speaking about FAITH anywhere is it ? THE GATHERING TOGETHER UNTO Christ is the subject.