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  1. Mystery Babylon status rev.17

    And just what does this supposed to prove brother? I have seen countless people use the same argument, its like a cookie cutter argument, but it doesn't really explain anything. By reading the chapter we can see what the Holy Spirit is telling us, in verse 7 we are told we will be taught what the Mystery is. If you read verses 8-18 everything is explained. The Beast is the GOVERNMENTS of the World which represents Satan's EVILS and they ALWAYS stand against God whether that be Israel or the Church. Thus they are BEASTS.........They are also the STATUE of Daniel 2. The WOMAN/HARLOT is the FALSE RELIGION side of the two sided coin....they are conjoined, the Woman (False Religion) rides the BEAST (False Governance) thus her four descriptions are MYSTERY...Babylon the Great, Abominations of the Earth and Mother of Harlots. All four represent who she is and where she comes from. We understand they are different entities because the KINGS (Governments in league with the BEAST) Kill the Harlot in Rev. 17:16. They destroy ALL FALSE RELIGION because there is no place for ANY RELIGION, the Beast wants to be Worshiped as GOD !! That CITY John saw refers to THE VISION in verses 3-6, nothing else is a vision, verses 1 and 2 and verses 7-18 is an Angel SPEAKING, so what did John see? BABYLON THE GREAT !! Which stands for WORLD GOVERNANCE under Satan.
  2. And except those days should be shortened.

    Why do people not understand the scriptures? I think the old English writing hurts many and people just don't use logic. Why do you ASSUME the cutting short is not a PRE-PLANNED 7 year event that was cut to SEVEN YEARS on purpose by God/Jesus? That is exactly what I see, especially by using logic. God doesn't say things like " Hey look, I planned this for 7 years but now I am going to have to cut it short or no lives would be saved"................That is not something LOGICALLY an all knowing God would say. Its more akin to this, "Hey guys, I gave cut the time short (SEVEN YEARS of Jacobs Prophesied Troubles) so that all fleshed would not be destroyed". God doesn't have to change His plans. He knows all things. The Seven Years is the PRE-PLANNED TIME-LINE, and yes Jesus coming back CUTS ASUNDER the Beasts Reign !!
  3. Rev. 12: Heavenly Sign to appear in 2017 - What could it mean?

    You are right I should just ignore him since hes called me a False Teacher about 20 times, instead of pointing out what I see as truth, that some people aren't called to Prophecy.I also don't understand why Preachers are allowed to be attacked on here. But I am not going to report anyone because that's not my nature, I think its rather silly unless its vulgar to report something, it kind of gives me less respect for that person who would do such, JMHO, but I understand your need to deal in this manner. But its just not me, in all due respect, I don't operate like that. Jesus would have gotten a reprimand for calling out the pharisees I guess. In all love brother, I respect you, but I think its best for me to move on from here, I do not need the Gospels message to be thwarted by the way people "FEEL". God Bless
  4. Rev. 12: Heavenly Sign to appear in 2017 - What could it mean?

    I have been a preacher over 30 years, telling the truth is not insulting people. The Holy Spirit lets me know by this mans understandings he is NOT CALLED to Prophecy, so I told him as much. Now you actually have zero clue about his posts to me do you? So instead of getting in a long diatribe when he tells me I am wrong, I just tell him he is clueless about Prophecy because that is not his calling. Maybe I should just ignore him, because the only time he replies is to tell someone how wrong they are. Some of his POSTS BELOW...He thinks the Marriage Supper being spoken of by me in Rev. 19 is VULGAR...???? (Keras Post) 1. Now this is about the worst interpretation of Bible prophecy I have ever seen. The very idea is so disgusting, I cannot comment further without violating forum rules. (Keras post)2. Actual scriptural proof would be good. Exactly where and when will the Marriage Feast of the Lamb take place? I like how you said Benny Hinn was a 'bother of God'. (Hes attacking a Brother in Christ here and me for saying Benny Hinn is a Brother in Christ Jesus). (Keras) 3. Just because the easily fooled people that you associate with, believe in the fanciful idea of going to live in heaven, do not think others do too. Your statistic of 90% Christians are rapture believers, is just out of your hat and quite wrong. Also there is three main camps: pre; mid, and post rapture and they cannot agree. As you are unable to present any scripture that proves a rapture to heaven, it is you that should cease teaching false doctrines. Take note of James 3:1 (Those of us who Believe in the Rapture are FOOLS according to Keras) (Keras post) 4. No; we have just told you where you are wrong and you ignore reproof and valid correction, to your shame. The martyrs ask for vengeance and the Lord gives it to them in Revelation 18:1-24. They thank God for it in Rev 19:1-3 They are NOT living people yet; until Revelation 20:4, and they are certainly NOT the Church. You avoided the issue of who the 'vast multitude of people ' in Rev 19:1, are. If you believe they are the raptured Church, then I ask for clear scriptures that tell us when that happens. (We are always WRONG according to KERAS, even though we are the vast majority we are seen as FOOLISH or WRONG) (KERAS) 5. Again, I must call you out for making unsupported statements as though they are facts. Especially as I and others, have already corrected you before. (Keras) 6. Your failure to answer questions is sufficient proof of your false teachings. (He has been saying I have FALSE TEACHING for Months. I don't REPORT HIM, because I am not "some", I don't run and tell something. ) So I should just Ignore the guy, I hate to do that, but the facts is the stuff he posts are just way off Base, IMHO, I usually do not reply to him, then he chips in with you are a false teacher, you are wrong, you need to work on your understanding of scriptures etc. etc. When its really him that needs the work so I just tell him that, maybe I should just ignore him. I am not going to sweat it, he tells me I am wrong about every post, so I just tell him he was not called to Prophecy, which is true, he is not called to prophecy, else I wouldn't be wrong on everything according to him.
  5. Rev. 12: Heavenly Sign to appear in 2017 - What could it mean?

    Close your eyes to the facts, but they are still there. Rev. 19:17 And I saw an angel standing in the sun; and he cried with a loud voice, saying to all the fowls that fly in the midst of heaven, Come and gather yourselves together unto the supper of the great God; 18 That ye may eat the flesh of kings, and the flesh of captains, and the flesh of mighty men, and the flesh of horses, and of them that sit on them, and the flesh of all men, both free and bond, both small and great. Matthew 24:27 For as the lightning cometh out of the east, and shineth even unto the west; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be. 28 For wheresoever the carcase is, there will the eagles be gathered together.
  6. Rev. 12: Heavenly Sign to appear in 2017 - What could it mean?

    The Lord says as I pointed out, that the Saints are the Armies, can you not read plain English? arrayed in fine linen, clean and white: for the FINE LINEN is the righteousness of SAINTS 9 And he saith unto me, Write, Blessed are they which are called unto the marriage supper of the Lamb. And he saith unto me, These are the true sayings of God. 14 And the armies which were in heaven followed him upon white horses, clothed in fine linen, white and clean. (See verse 8, the Fine White Linen signifies a SAINT of God.) This can't be as difficult to figure out as you guys make it out to be. The WHITE FINE LINEN is the Righteousness of the SAINTS WHO ARE THE Church !! The Church HAS TO BE at the Marriage Supper and that is ON EARTH at Armageddon, so the CHURCH COMES BACK WITH JESUS !!
  7. Events before the antichrist appears

    WE ARE.......You just can't see it it seems.
  8. Events before the antichrist appears

    I understand the Holy Spirits voice. I don't present MY IDEAS as Gods revelation, when the Holy Spirit does give me something I will not be moved. That's just the way I roll. Now if you can point to anything you disagree with me on we can knock it around, but I am stating things that are given to be by the Holy Spirit, so you need to be specific, generalizing is not going tio get us anywhere. You are the one making charges against a bother of God that has brought millions to Christ Jesus, I suggest you ill be asked in Heaven why you came against Gods Servant with slander. Like I stated, if your Spirit can't see the Holy Spirit work when its before you you have an issue. Something is wrong. Now like Satan who stands before God daily bringing charges against the brothers, you are doing his biding. Satan loves it. But the Holy Spirit is not fazed in the least and continues his work. So your charges don't really mean anything, do they?
  9. Events before the antichrist appears

    Who is WE? The 10 percent of all Christendom that agrees with you? You should move away from Prophecy brother.
  10. Events before the antichrist appears

    I don't know what all that was even about since I understand All Israel will be Saved, maybe its about a conversation above !! And Yes, Joseph was a type of Suffering Servant and David was a type of Conquering King. Joseph also SAVED his brothers the "Second time" they saw him, and Jesus will save Israel the Second Time they will see him. As per brother Benny, you listen to "the world" and miss the Holy Spirits OBVIOUS WORKS, thus your mind is being misled by Satan. The Spirit testifies of the Spirit, you have your mind on some type of Prophecy, when I think you really don't understand the difference between a "Word of Knowledge" and a Prophecy, they are two different things entirely. A Prophet of God is few and far in between and most had to get away from mankind/go to the desert to receive of God in full. There words are supposed to be Prophetic and are meant to represent God as always being 100 percent right. A Word of knowledge is just not the same thing. Its always contingent upon peoples actions, like Nineveh. A word of Knowledge can be foggy to us, believe me, I know, sometimes we are given these Words of Knowledge but don't understand, even Gabriel had to explain to Daniel. Sometimes God changes contingent upon the Churches actions. People given words of knowledge by God are not Prophets, and you or anyone else holding them to that standard is WRONG. Mark Taylor the Fireman stated in 2011 that Donald Trump would be President, and that the sign would be a triple crown winner, he heard correct, but he thought it was 2012, but God was saying the Church is not in the right place at that time. Sure enough, the Triple Crown horse freakishly broke his leg in the 3rd Race. A triple crown was won and Trump became president. He stated that they would " try to keep the current president in for another term, well we know presidents can only run twice, but Obama seems to have tried to set up a Shadow Gov.....he didn't see that clearly until it came to pass. Then half the thing you listen to the "WORLD" telling you are half truths and lies. Any person that can't see the Holy Spirits actions when presented to them needs to recheck themselves, IMHO.
  11. Events before the antichrist appears

    You are off again on this subject brother. Those under the Alter are Tribulation Martyrs. I have never seen someone that just gets every issue wrong as per prophecy. Its not your bag it seems. Jesus tells the "Tribulation Saints" they must WAIT until their fellow brethren are killed also, which means they have to wait until the BEASTS 42 Month Reign is finished. They clearly say they want vengeance of the people ON EARTH who killed them, PRESENT TENSE. You have never corrected me, that's funny.
  12. Events before the antichrist appears

    That wasn't my thought/point, him being in power at all, it was Jesus being betrayed by Judas and many seem to think that the Jewish peoples accept this Anti-Christ as their Messiah (which they never do) and thus he is likened unto Judas who betrays Israel, after having been trusted by them. Like I stated, I seemed to think you were headed there and then it seemed you didn't quite go there, so I pulled back. Let me ask you, d you think Israel accepts the Anti-Christ as their Messiah? (No better way to find out than to ask). Perdition only means hes going to Hell for eternity. The Harlot = ALL FALSE RELIGION and she is Judged/Killed off, she is no more. No use going into great detail, I have a thread on Babylon, the Harlot and the Seven Headed Beast on this site. I don't know Bill, Rick or Kenny, but if you are speaking of Brother Benny Hinn and you can't understand hes of the Holy Spirit then I am very wary of your testimony. Way too many people go around tearing down our brothers in Christ Jesus, that's Satan's job not ours. Just because you do't have the same gifts as others, that doesn't mean they don't exist. The "Come out of her my people" is referring to Israel fleeing unto the Wilderness in the end times, it has nothing to do with the Church. Which means we need to be of God and of the Holy Spirit else we might be a False Teacher, when you get 200 different ideas of what Babylon is, I think you have a lot of people who are clueless, who are not called in certain fields but yet they think they are. They want to be a foot who they are called to be a hand. It has nothing to do with Apostasy. The first Seven English Translations stated DEPART or DEPARTING. This insight about the use and meaning of the word was certainly compelling, but the argument Mr. Ice presented that was most convicting was his revelation that the first seven English translations of the Bible rendered the noun, apostasia, as either “departure” or “departing.” They were as follows: 1.The Wycliffe Bible (1384) 2.The Tyndale Bible (1526) 3. The Coverdale Bible (1535) 4. The Cranmer Bible (1539) 5. The Great Bible (1540) 6. The Beeches Bible (1576) 7. The Geneva Bible (1608) Mr. Ice also noted that the Bible used by the Western world from 400 AD to the 1500s — Jerome’s Latin translation known as “The Vulgate” — rendered apostasia with the Latin word, discessio, which means “departure.” The first translation of the word to mean apostasy in an English Bible did not occur until 1611 when the King James Version was issued. So, why did the King James translators introduce a completely new rendering of the word as “falling away”? The best guess is that they were taking a stab at the false teachings of Catholicism. Rev. 19 can't happen without a Pre-trib Rapture first. When these things begin to happen they will move quickly and time lines will be out the window. The most important aspect is do we have oil? Do we have Jesus? If we have Jesus we have oil. Biblical understanding is becoming more and more important and how many people come to church these days with one in hand? How many churches are teaching doctrine building believers in the faith? I've heard hours of Rick Warren speak without directly mentioning Jesus or scripture. He has been asked to speak in front of Muslims and Jews never mentioning the gospel. Could you imagine Paul or Peter or James or Timothy having the floor and telling them how to have better growth and partnering to feed the poor and never preaching the gospel? The church is deceived! Mega churches in every town but look at our nation. We have no witness anymore, the new birth is a joke to people, judgement is coming and we are listening to hill song and people like Mark Driscoll. Our youth is being taken by clowns. No repentance, no revival. I don't know him.
  13. Rev. 12: Heavenly Sign to appear in 2017 - What could it mean?

    Not that I care, but switching bibles per certain words really makes no sense. I still with the KJV or Holman no matter what, if I need to explain the Translation I do. Its no big deal, but I don't understand why people do ot. NOW....Your two scriptures here are kind of like Eves confusion in the Garden of Eden when Satan told her, "You will no surely die" which was a Half Truth. You see, the Angels AND the Church comes with Jesus Christ. So of course 2 Thess. 1 is correct, but it does not a think to change the fact I stated, Rev. 19 can not be TRUE unless the Church is RAPTURED. Its not that complicated. Revelation 19:1 And after these things I heard a great voice of much people in heaven, saying, Alleluia; Salvation, and glory, and honour, and power, unto the Lord our God: 7 Let us be glad and rejoice, and give honour to him: for the marriage of the Lamb is come, and his wife hath made herself ready 8 And to her(CHURCH) was granted that she should be arrayed in fine linen, clean and white: for the FINE LINEN is the righteousness of SAINTS 9 And he saith unto me, Write, Blessed are they which are called unto the marriage supper of the Lamb. And he saith unto me, These are the true sayings of God. {{{ OK, There are MUCH PEOPLE in heaven, and then we see the Marriage of the Lamb to his Bride (Church) takes place. She is given WHITE ROBES that stand for her Righteousness as SAINTS !! THIS IS THE CHURCH. Then we are told that Blessed are those who are CALLED to the Marriage Supper (REMEMBER THAT). So the Church is in Heaven, Marrying the Lamb and awaiting the Marriage Supper, lets see what happens Next. }}} 10 And I fell at his feet to worship him. And he said unto me, See thou do it not: I am thy fellowservant, and of thy brethren that have the testimony of Jesus: worship God: for the testimony of Jesus is the spirit of prophecy. 11 And I saw heaven opened, and behold a white horse; and he that sat upon him was called Faithful and True (JESUS), and in righteousness he doth judge and make war 12 His eyes were as a flame of fire, and on his head were many crowns; and he had a name written, that no man knew, but he himself. 13 And he was clothed with a vesture dipped in blood: and his name is called The Word of God. 14 And the armies which were in heaven followed him upon white horses, clothed in fine linen, white and clean. (See verse 8, the Fine White Linen signifies a SAINT of God.) {{{ The Church returns with Jesus Christ FROM HEAVEN, to Earth, where the Anti-Christ his Kings and their Armies are STILL ON EARTH, After the Rapture !!!! (SEE BELOW). So the Rapture happens well before the Second Coming. Its Elementary in reality, if we follow the scriptures instead of the "Traditions of men". Lets finish this up. }}} Revelation 19:17 And I saw an angel standing in the sun; and he cried with a loud voice, saying to all the fowls that fly in the midst of heaven (CHURCH), Come and gather yourselves together unto the supper of the great God. 18 That ye may eat the flesh of kings, and the flesh of captains, and the flesh of mighty men, and the flesh of horses, and of them that sit on them, and the flesh of all men, both free and bond, both small and great. 19 And I saw the (BEAST Still Alive), and the kings of the earth, and their armies (Still Alive after the Church comes back with Jesus From Heaven), gathered together to make war against him(JESUS) that sat on the horse, and against his army(CHURCH/Angels). 20 And the beast was taken, and with him the false prophet (Two Men) that wrought miracles before him, with which he deceived them that had received the mark of the beast, and them that worshipped his image. These both were cast alive into a lake of fire burning with brimstone (Same as Daniel 7:11). 21 And the remnant were slain with the sword(Holy Spirit) of him that sat upon the horse, which sword proceeded out of his mouth: and all the fowls were filled with their flesh. {{{ OK, we have the Marriage Supper happening here, of course the "MARRIAGE SUPPER" is those killed at Armageddon. If you read Matthew 24:28 properly you will understand what Jesus meant about where the Carcass is there the Eagles (fowls) will be Gathered. He was speaking about the Second Coming, IMMEDIATELY AFTER the Tribulation, and that happens with the Church in tow, as Rev. ch. 19 clearly shows us, if we just read the plain text as written. So the Beast/Kings/Armies are still on Earth while the Church is in Heaven Marrying the Lamb (Jesus). The Battle of Armageddon is fought after the Saints return from Heave on White Horses with Jesus, so there has to be a PRE-TRIBULATION Rapture. Then the Marriage Supper is served, the flesh of the wicked men on earth is our glorious feast. Then the Beast and False Prophet are cast into hell, and their Armies are killed, to be Judged in 1000 years. Now disprove anything I stated with scriptures, it can't be done. }}} Just to be crystal clear on your points I Skipped over, trying to prove the Church isn't in heaven (unsuccessfully) what the very first verse in Rev. 19 says.........THERE WAS MUCH PEOPLE IN HEAVEN !! Now, on to these points of emphasis above. The Beginning of Sorrows happens after 70 AD and before the Tribulation begins and before the Rapture. Matthew 24:14 says the Word must be preached unto all the World, then end will come, so the "Sorrows" is not nor can it start during the Tribulation, but well before. Of course you might have meant that. So the Sorrows to begin first but not during the Tribulation. 1. Sorrows Begin just before the Disciples are Killed See verses 8 and 9. 2. The Tribulation is a Seven Year Period called Jacobs Troubles. Its the last of the 70 Weeks Decree/Judgment. The "Greatest Troubles" do come just after the Abomination of Desolation, but that is not the "Great Tribulation" as mentioned by John in Rev. ch. 7, the Great Tribulation is a 2000 year period of Tribulation that the Church went through. 2000 years is FAR GREATER than 7 years, although the GREATEST TROUBLES EVER happen in the Last 7 years or even the last 3.5 Years. 3. Israel REPENTS (As a Nation, not all Jews) just after the Two-Witnesses are sent forth before the AoD. 4. The Abomination of Desolation, The Day of the Lord and the Wrath of God all have one and the Same starting point, as a matter of fact the DOTL and Gods Wrath are the same thing. Gods Wrath begins with the Opening of the Seals, of course. 5. Then Jesus comes at the End, via the 6th Vial which Gathers the Nations unto Armageddon. Then the Seventh Via is poured out, Jesus lands on the Mt of Olives, thus the great EARTHQUAKE in Rev. 16:19.
  14. Events before the antichrist appears

    Hello brother. I agree we are told he will be "Revealed" but we differ a tad on what this means. I think it is kind of like Revelation means the curtain is taken away, in other words hes there before he is known to be whom he is, if you catch my drift. I guess it was the Judas comment that got me to thinking you were suggesting he will be placed into power by Israel, maybe that's not what you meant. Anyway, when the First Seal is opened then the Anti-Christ will be Revealed or shown to be who he is, not a "Man of peace" as he claims falsely, but a Dictator who desires to be worshiped as a "Human God". Israel never places him in a place of authority over them, they do sign a "Forced" Peace/Security Agreement with him, and he deceives them and others. I agree with the Political System and the Economic System being intertwined, but the Religious System will be in total chaos in my honest opinion. For starters the Church will be Raptured and in Heaven by the time the Anti-Christ comes to power. It is my understanding through research that the Beast (The Anti-Christ becomes the BEAST when he Conquers Jerusalem) will destroy all Religions, he will not partner with Any Religion, he desires to be Worshiped as the ONLY GOD, why would any Dictator with Dark powers try to change the hearts and minds of 2 Billion Muslims? Hey you guys, I am GOD...Come worship me !! That is just not what a ruthless Dictator would do (They wouldn't anyway). In Daniel 8:25 it says he " Destroys (deceives) many through Peace so I think he gains Cred as the European President by solving the current Muslim problem in Europe, by coming down hard on "Radical Islam" and he also solves a World-wide economic collapse (he understands Dark Sentences = He solves Riddles and Conundrums with Dark Powers). This gives him leverage, and some Arab/Israeli conflict will give him the leverage to demand that HE and HE ALONE be the one that "Secures the Peace" in the Region, after all he has destroyed the Radical Muslim sects in Europe, so Israel falls for this via much pressure from the rest of the world. The Arabs also will go along seeing as Israel will disarm, they think in the future that gives them a chance at defeating Israel. So this BEAST has the power to protect the whole region, kind of like the USA protected Germany and Japan for years and NATO protects Eastern Europe. (ITS A MISTAKE OF COURSE). He then, half way through these Agreements (Covenants) with Many, will break these Agreements and ATTACK with a ruthless fervor never seen before. He will conquer the Arabs and Israel (Jerusalem) and he will destroy All Religions, Islam will be outlawed, as will All Religions, Hinduism, Buddhism, etc. etc. He will demand to be Worshiped as the ONLY GOD. He is not going to "Unite Religions"...If you were trying to become a One World Dictator, who was going to Demand ALL PEOPLE Worship you as the ONLY GOD, would you try to unite all the Worlds Religions? Can you say DISASTER !! That is not going to happen, Satan is a brilliant tactician, he is going to destroy all the False Religions (The Harlot Rev. 17:16 is destroyed by the KINGS [Governments] thus she is no more). He then tries to kill all the Jews but only kills 2/3, because 1/3 heed Jesus' warning and Flee unto the Wilderness. He then goes after the REMNANT of the Church and we know Remnant means a Small part that is left. I think the Deception is by Anti-Christ, not Religious Entities. I agree with much of this, except the Religions coming together as one and the very last Sentence/Verse. The departing is not of the FAITH but the CHURCH DEPARTING....Nowhere is FAITH Spoken of in that passage, BUT..... a gathering together unto Christ Jesus is spoken of....the Church DEPARTS then the Anti-Christ is REVEALED both before the Day of the Lord, Gods coming Wrath.
  15. Rev. 12: Heavenly Sign to appear in 2017 - What could it mean?

    Yes, you can not have a Rev. 19 without a Rapture.