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  1. How do you miss the obvious and focus on the irrelevant ? The POINT was what ? When was Satan the Dragon cast out of Heaven right ? Thus if he is trying to GET AT HER......and the Woman NEEDS PROTECTION for 1260 days, he MUST HAVE BEEN cast out of Heaven on day 1261 which leaves 1260 days to Chase the Woman, on day 2521 she will need no protection from the Dragon, he will be in the Bottomless Pit !! So he indeed chases the Woman for 1260 days, if any of those come out of their protected zone, the Dragon is going to kill them, and I bet a few ventures out. Men are just like that. That is who Jesus is warning in Matt. 24:24-29 about, he says don't believe it is me in the desert or secret storeroom, I will come in the Eastern Skies. So you missed the ENTIRE POINT of when the Dragon is cast out by being overtly disagreeable brother. Lighten up, you will be able to see these things better when you don't start out trying to clash with others from the get go. This should have been an AGREEMENT POINT. Hes cast out on day 1261 and thus the Woman needs Protecting for 1260 days, that is obvious. Which is the REMNANT CHURCH....which proves a pre trib Rapture. Those who love Jesus and KEEP his commandments can't be Jews, the 1/3 are in Petra, the 2/3 don't love Jesus or keep his commandments, so who are they a REMNANT of ? The Church, of course brother, which are in Heaven marrying the Lamb, Jesus Christ. Just not the case brother, basically you are way out on a limb here, no one except a vast minority agrees with this thinking. The Day of the Lord begins with the First 6 Seals, they are all opened within mili-seconds of each other. Jesus RELEASES THE Anti-Christ to go forth with the First Sea in the MIDDLE OF THE WEEK...Being off by 2000 years throws everything else off brother. The Dragon thus has to be CAST DOWN at the exact same time, because the Woman needs protecting from him for 1260 days !! Not at the 7th Trumpet. Rev. 6:12 And I beheld when he had opened the sixth seal, and, lo, there was a great earthquake; and the sun became black as sackcloth of hair, and the moon became as blood; 13 And the stars of heaven fell unto the earth, even as a fig tree casteth her untimely figs, when she is shaken of a mighty wind. This is the Angels being CAST OUT on day 1261.....The Stars are Angels throughout the bible. The mid-point is the First Seal, I can't help it if you see this as 2000 years ago sir, that is on you. Its not even an argument I will listen to. No use going further with you sir. Its the same each time. God Bless.
  2. Of course he does, the REMNANT CHURCH is still on earth, until the Dragon kills them via the Anti-Christ/Beast Kingdom. Not everyone who thinks they are a Christian will get Raptured, so many people will be on earth, THEN REALIZE they were half stepping and dedicate their lives unto Jesus/God in full. So he will kill them, and he hates the Jews so much he will kill the 2/3 who do not repent also, see Hitler's attempt to annihilate the Jews. 1. He will kill/be angry at the REMNANT CHURCH or those that Repent after the Rapture PRE 70th Week. Why does this never register ? 2. He will try to kill the Fleeing Jews, but will fail. Thus hes angry at them also. 3. He will kill ALL MEN who refuse to Worship him. Do you really think these fanatical Muslims are going to worship a man ? They are the biggest part of the Harlot that he is going to DESTROY/BURN etc. Kill off. He kills 2 billion people on earth, the Remnant Church, ALL the Jews he can get at and ALL those who refuse to Worship him and take the MotB/Mark. You have a billion Hindus, many Buddhists, hes going to kill all who refuse to worship him, as wrong as those Religions are, the Anti-Christ is God's TOOL to Judge them, the Harlot. See........you stretch everything and try to make it fit your beliefs brother. I show above who he's angry at, and no one can force the MotB on anyone, they have to take it freely or they don't lose their soul. You just don't see the rapture, thus you can't see all those who he will be angry at, but I can brother. We don't need to be tested, our Righteousness is Christ Jesus. We passed the test of life in Christ on earth. They REPENT before the DOTL, nor when Jesus returns. They truly see their Redeemer coming {Jesus} at the Second Coming. Well we are right.....and you guys just don't see it yet, maybe the Lord will bless you, and you will see as I do, if not its not a Salvation Issue. God Bless.
  3. The 7 days represents the 7 years of course as per the Marriage. We know days and weeks are represented via years in Prophecy in many cases. It is not 7 days so it must be 7 years in this case. Where you get off kilter brother is you conflate the "Time of the Gentiles" with the Gentiles overrunning the Jerusalem. Its not the same, the Time of the Gentiles is referring to the Church Age, the Jews were seen as Dead Men's Bones by God and he chose the Gentiles to carry His Gospel unto the ends of the world. What does Paul tell the Romans ? Romans 11:25 For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in. IN PART means there will always be a few Messianic Christians along the way like Paul, Peter etc. etc., but for the most part Israel is BLINDED UNTIL...The fullness of the Gentiles have come in, and that means God's calling switches from the Gentiles back unto the Jews, AFTER the Rapture of the Church. Their calling is WITHOUT REPENTANCE.....Meaning God will bring them back unto the fold, but only after the Gentile Church has been Raptured. You conflate this with the evil Gentiles who overrun Jerusalem. Paul tells us a different story in Romans chapters 9-11, that is all about the Gentile Church. Just because the word Gentile is used doesn't mean it has to be the same peoples being spoken of......Paul is speaking about the Gentile Church, whereas John is speaking about the Gentile Beast Leaders. TOTALLY DIFFERENT ENTITIES Brother. Yes, the Second Coming is after the AoD, and the Church comes with him from the Fathers House or Heaven. They were not given the Rapture......Paul was. Their testimony was THEIR TESTIMONY. It had to be uniquely human. Go read the four Gospels, each tells a different story about the Death of Christ. And you know why ? HUMANS SEE THINGS FROM THEIR OWN PERSPECTIVE !! Its not error per se. Its truths from different points of view. Police love evidence over witnesses for that very reason. We are human beings, God is Perfect. Jesus stated he could not testify of himself, so we get four mens testimony of the life of Christ. I understood only recently, their TESTIMONIES had to be their own, because of what Jesus stated. Whether anyone gets that or not, its blatantly obvious. This is just ONE ADDED REASON on the scale brother. We are in Heaven BEFORE the Seals are opened in Rev. 4 and 5....there is no doubt about that. "These" that came out of the Great Tribulation is you and others PIGEONHOLING God's vocabulary. You and others {as I did for years} have MANDATED that Great Tribulation has to be the 70th Week Tribulation, and it BLINDED ME to the facts, like its blinding many as per this scripture still today. Tribulation brother ? TROUBLES RIGHT ? And what did Jesus tell the Disciples ? That they would have CONTINUAL TRIBULATIONS right ? So what is the GREAT TRIBULATION ? Pssstttt, its the Church Age Tribulation period.....it is FAR GREATER, as in 2000 years is GREATER than 7 years. We MANDATE it has to be speaking about the greatest Ever Tribulation during the 70th week. But John is speaking about the Church Age Period. It was/is indeed a GREAT TRIBULATION PERIOD.....many millions of Saints have been killed/martyred during this time period. But notice they aren't called Martyrs here, because most of the Saints in heaven at this time were not Martyred. Those in the Seal 5 scriptures were called MARTYRS SPECIFICALLY. They are the Remnant Gentile Church, whom the Dragon comes against when he can't get at the Woman {repented Jews}. You conflate it and assume its the 70th week Saints...but it CAN'T BE....Jesus specifically tells them they MUST WAIT until their brothers have been killed in like manner as them, thus until the Beasts 42 Months reign is finished. We see in Rev. 20:4 that this is FACTUAL.....those who refused to take the Mark of the Beast are JUDGED here and live and reign ON EARTH with Christ for 1000 years. Those in Rev. 7 are the Raptured Church we see in Rev. chapters 4 and 5. You are looking at the very Raptured Saints you insist aren't Raptured pre 70th week, but you think they get Raptured after dying during the 70th week, thats just not the case brother. Right, its the Church Age Saints who came out of the Tribulation of the Church Age. No, they were in Heaven BEFORE the DOTL see Rev. 4 and 5. No one is going to Heaven after the 70th week starts until the Great Judgment Throne and they are going to live ON EARTH....not go to HEAVEN. You conflate the Rapture with the Second Coming. If one continually does this he can't see the difference brother.
  4. The Jewish Bride and Groom resides in the "FATHERS HOUSE" for 7 days after their Marriage. The Groom doesn't decide when to go get the Bride, the Father does, its usually around midnight, and they son goes forth with a SHOUT he beckons the Bride, who is surprised, but expecting. Why do you think Jesus emphasises the Jewish Wedding Traditions so much ? The Lord gave the Children of Israel three Spring Feasts in Leviticus 23:4-14, Passover, Unleavened Bread and Firstfruits. Here is how they were fulfilled: Passover - Jesus paid the price for our sins when He died on the Cross. Jesus was the Lamb of God. (John 1:29) Jesus was the Passover Lamb. Firstfruits - The day we recognize as Resurrection Sunday is the Jewish Feast of Firstfruits. Jesus was the Firstfruits of the grave. (First Corinthians 15:20) Unleavened Bread - According to Scripture, “Passover Week” is the Feast of Unleavened Bread. Leavening is figurative of sin; Jesus was “unleavened,” without sin. Jesus paid the price at the Feast of Unleavened Bread. There is a thread of continuity that flows through the seven feasts, or appointed times, first given by the Lord. Here are the steps taken in completing the Jewish wedding and its application to the wedding of the Church to the Lord Jesus, followed by how this ties to the seven appointed feasts of Israel: The steps of the traditional Jewish wedding: 1 – Selection of the Bride Jewish Wedding - The Son chooses the Bride – the Father makes the arrangements Church - John 15:16 – “You did not choose Me, but I chose you . . .” 2 – The Bride Price established Jewish Wedding - The father of the bride must be reimbursed for the loss of his daughter. Church - I Corinthians 6:20 - “For you were bought with a price.” The Bride price was paid when Jesus died on the Cross. We who are saved by Jesus were sought by the Lord. (Isaiah 65:1) Jesus paid the price on Passover. The appointed times of Firstfruits and Unleavened Bread complete the picture of Jesus being resurrected and being sinless, the spotless Lamb of God. The Spring Feasts have all been fulfilled. The steps of the traditional Jewish wedding: 3 – The Betrothal Jewish Wedding - More than mere “engagement”, it was a permanent arrangement. Recall the story of Joseph and Mary. Church – The attachment of the Church to the Lord is also permanent, and forever. “This is the bread which came down from heaven--not as your fathers ate the manna, and are dead. He that eateth of this bread shall live for ever.” (John 6:58) And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any [man] pluck them out of my hand. (John 10:28) 4 – The Marriage Contract Jewish Wedding – A written agreement committing each party to the marriage. Church - The entire Holy Bible is our written agreement containing the promises of God. Jesus said, “If ye continue in my word, [then] are ye my disciples indeed;” (John 8:31) 5 – The Bride must consent Jewish Wedding – This is not entirely an arranged marriage; the bride must agree. Church – “He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved;” (Mark 16:16) “That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.” (Romans 10:9) 6 – The Bridal Gift and the Cup of the Covenant Jewish Wedding – A glass of wine is taken upon the signing of the contract. Church – Each time we gather around the Lord’s Table, we remember the “contract.” “And he took the cup, and gave thanks, and gave [it] to them, saying, Drink ye all of it; For this is my blood of the new testament (covenant), which is shed for many for the remission of sins.” (Matthew 26:27-28) Jewish Wedding – The Bride is given a gift by the groom. Church - The Holy Spirit is given by Jesus –– “Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.” (Acts 2:38) This, of course, occurred on the Day of Pentecost. 7 – The Ceremonial Purification of the Bride Jewish Wedding - The next step for the Bride after she is betrothed is a ceremonial cleansing. In Biblical times the Bride would use a Mikvah, which was pool of water, in which she would immerse herself. Church - Acts 2:41 – “Then those who gladly received his word were baptized (immersed); and that day about three thousand souls were added [to them].” The Church is an insertion in the Lord's Plan. Israel was the original bride. I believe that the Lord Jesus will come for His bride, the Church, in a separate event (the Rapture) from the Lord's return for His bride, Israel. From this point forward in the Jewish Wedding process, following the purification of the bride, in my opinion the Church will be dealt with separately in the time defined as the Church Age, or the Age of Grace. This period of time will extend from the first Day of Pentecost to the day when the Lord Jesus calls us Home. 8 – The Groom would prepare a room for the Bride in his father’s house Church - John 14:3 – “I go to prepare a place for you. And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again and receive you to Myself.” The father of the groom determines when the room is ready. The groom does not determine the time of the wedding. “But of that day and hour knoweth no [man], no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only.” (Matthew 24:36) 9 – The Bride is consecrated and set apart Church - First Peter 2:9 – “But ye [are] a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, a holy nation, His own special people.” 10 – The Groom returns with a shout, “Behold, the bridegroom comes!” Church - First Thessalonians 4:16 – “For the Lord Himself will descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of an archangel, and with the trumpet of God.” Let me insert an additional hope at this point. When the Lord Jesus comes for His Bride, the Church, we will not be totally surprised. Although the Jewish bride did not know the day or the hour, she was expectant. The Apostle Paul in speaking of “that Day” said, “But ye, brethren, are not in darkness, that that day should overtake you as a thief. Ye are all the children of light, and the children of the day.” (First Thessalonians 5:4-5) Today, many in the Church are expectant and will not be totally surprised. 11 – The Bride and Groom go to the wedding chamber. Church – This period when the Bride and Groom spend time together seems to show that the Bride of Jesus will be with Him in Heaven. This appears to indicate a pre-Tribulation gathering of the Church, and is described in Isaiah 26:20; “Come, my people, enter thou into thy chambers, and shut thy doors about thee: hide thyself as it were for a little moment, until the indignation be overpast.” Praise the Lord! 12 – The Marriage Supper Church – “‘Let us be glad and rejoice and give Him glory, for the marriage of the Lamb has come, and His wife has made herself ready.’ And to her it was granted to be arrayed in fine linen, clean and bright, for the fine linen is the righteous acts of the saints. Then he said to me, ‘Write: Blessed [are] those who are called to the marriage supper of the Lamb!’” (The Revelation 19:7-9) In my opinion, the Feast of Pentecost is still being fulfilled and will be completed when the Lord Jesus comes for His bride. I believe that in the remaining steps of the Jewish Wedding process, the steps will be fulfilled for Israel in a separate manner. The next appointed time is the Feast of Trumpets. The Feast of Trumpets is a mysterious time. Of all the feasts, or appointed times, little is said of it and no scriptural reason for the feast is given. (see Leviticus 23:23-25) A trumpet (the Shofar) is blown. Trumpets make announcements. I suspect that the Feast of Trumpets will be when the Lord in some manner announces the time has come for the fulfillment of His plan for Israel. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- THE LAST TRUMP is what Ends the Harvest or Church Age.....not a Revelation Trump. It's the Feast of Trumps that ENDS the Feast of Pentecost or the Harvest. Then the Feast of Atonement will be at hand and God says before the 70th week is over Israel WILL HAVE REPENTED !! Thus Elijah is sent back to preach repentance. Then the 1/3 of the Jews who repented will Flee Judea and the 2/3 who did not repent will perish. So Israel ATTONES.... The LAST FEAST is the Feast of Tabernacle which means TO DWELL WITH God !! And where does Jesus dwell at during the 1000 year reign ? In Jerusalem. so the Feast of Tabernacle is Jesus dwelling with Israel, Amen. This went long, I will get to the rest later, supper time...
  5. All 6 Seals are opened on Day 1261....The first 4 are Jesus RELEASING the Beast to go forth doing THOSE FOUR SPECIFIC THINGS over a 1260 day period, and the 5th Seal is the TESTIMONY of the Saints over that same 42 month period.....So that is just Jesus RELEASING the Beast...there needs to be no waiting, thus its Boom, Boom, Boom, Boom, Boom.....within minutes or seconds and then the 6th Seal is Opened............................The Dragon chases the WOMAN for 1260 days !! Its a CLUE to when hes cast down !! On day 1261....1260 days from the Second Coming. The first 5 Seals are what the Dragon and Anti-Christ are going to do over a 42 month period. The 6thh Seal is Satan being cast out of Heaven, the 7th Seal is HELD UP....Until the Jews {144,000} make it to Petra.
  6. Its actually more akin to a WILL and Testament. The Seals is where Satan is cast down, the 6th Seal to be exact, but it happens on day 1261, with 1260 days left before the Second Coming, thus he chases the Woman for 1260 days. Thus SIX of the Seals are opened on day 1261. The 7th Seal must be HELD UP, so the Jews can make it unto Petra. Then the 7th Seal brings forth the 7 Trumpets, the last three which is the THREE WOES, the Last Woe is the 7 Vials. But overall I agree, Jesus needs to open the Seals so the Anti Christ can GO FORTH Conquering. That is wrong sir, I have proven this to many people many times. That is not what Jesus is saying, Gabriel even tells his dad that John is not Elijah. Jesus is just saying that John, was a great man, and he did the EXACT SAME THING Elijah will do when he does come to turn Israel back unto God....It just wasn't time for Israel to repent. God could have sent Elijah back 2000 years ago and the Jews still wouldn't have repented !! So God knowing all, will send Elijah back at just the right time, during the END TIMES.
  7. No ones repenting that has taken the Mark of the Beast, nor can they, you mistake God putting forth a factoid, that he will still call men to repent as having something to do with those he is Angry at.....those who took the Mark of the Beast are without chance. They would not repent because their hearts were too dark, hence they threw in with the Beast. So God saying, they yet would not repent, is just a figure of speech meant to show that these men God is killing HATED God and all His ways, thus God is justified in His wrath against these evil clowns who love evil more than good, and Satan more than God. God Mercy ends for those people before the DOTL. There will be a few who refuse to take the Mark of The Beast who also ESCARE DEATH for a while by hiding out somewhere, WHO KNOWS WHERE, but they could in theory still repent, but my guess is if they didn't accept the Mark of the Beast, they had already accepted Christ and thus made their stand......Choose ye this day whom ye will stand with !! By rejecting the easy way, and running/hiding/starving, they must have been Christians IMHO, but, in theory they could still repent. Basically, once God's Wrath Begins, the Church is in Heaven, the REPENTED Jews are in Petra, and the Remnant Church is being chased by the Dragon/Anti-Christ see Rev. 12:17 !! sSo the mercy is basically over when the Wrath starts. The only Saints not protected in Petra are the Gentile REMNANT CHURCH saved after the Rapture. I have proven the Remnant can't be Jews, because God protects the 1/3 and the 2/3 have NOT the Witness of Jesus in them or testimony of Jesus. Thus its the Remnant Gentile Church, which means THE CHURCH has to be in Heaven, Amen. Only the Two-witnesses give witness during the Tribulation. And a Witness/testimony can be to condemn !! That's right, the Church is in Heaven, not on earth. Those Gentiles who repent AFTER the Rapture are the Martyrs under the Altar at the 5th Seal. The only ones on earth in the middle of his Wrath is the Gentile Church, Satan/Dragon comes after them. And God has never brought His Wrath on His People. Captivity is CORRECTION, not Wrath. You go to the nth degree to deny the Rapture has taken place pre 70th week.
  8. But it's not ONE DAY, its a day wherein God's Wrath begins. They had a very different style of writing, of course, they had a language with 4000 words at the start to as much as 7900 words at its zenith, thus the Hebrew language must be studied in depth when trying to understand it. I see YOWM as meaning a period of time in Genesis, not a day per se. Likewise when the day of the Lord begins, His wrath begins, ON THAT DAY, then we have to determine when it ends, and by looking at every mention of Day of the Lord in the bible we can determine that it is indeed many, many more days than one day. We can see all the things that comes to pass on this ONE DAY.....thus its not ONE DAY, but ONE DAY in which His Wrath falls upon mankind, there is indeed ONE DAY in which it begins, God is pointing to that ONE DAY....Many of you guys interpret it wrongly IMHO, that its just one day, but the clues do not tell us that at all. Elijah is indeed sent back BEFORE the DOTL begins, he turns Israel back unto God (the 1/3 who repent in Zechariah 13:8-9). Then in Zechariah 14:1-2 we see that the Anti-Christ Conquers/enslaves Jerusalem/the Jews. The 1/3 have already fled Judea for the safety of Petra/Bozrah. The 2/3 will perish. Then in Zechariah 14:3-4 we see Jesus returns to DEFEAT the Beast and his minions. So 14:1-2 BEGINS the DOTL, verses 3-4 ENDS God's Wrath against mankind. Thus they repent before this Day begins in Zechariah 13:8-9, 1/3 flee Judea and 2/3 will perish.
  9. I have explained it to you Douggg 100 times brother. The Jews REPENT before the DOTL which starts with the first Seal at the Midway point. Malachi 4:5-6, you want to dodge all scriptures that makes your understanding suspect. I used to do the same thing, I took reasons into the battlefield with me and bent everything to make it fit. The last 5 or so years, I just see the truth, no matter where it falls. Nowhere in the bible does it say the Jews accept a False christ Messiah as their King. It says just the opposite, they Flee Judea.
  10. The First Beast comes OUT of the Fourth Beasts Head, but he is the 5th Beast as per all the Gov. Beasts post Daniels time. The False Prophet {High Priest like unto Jason} is in power in Jerusalem before THE BEAAST is because High Priests live in Jerusalem. He arises out of THE LAND MASS of the Fourth Beast, hes born in Grecee and he is an Assyrian. All three have to fit. He swill come to power in the E.U. which is in Belgium. The Beast has ZERO to do with the Papacy, I can't belive people still go there. The reason you can't see the truths being given here is you have tunnel vision. You already know so you will never see anything different. God told me that very same thing 5 years or so ago. It is what it is. The 7 Heads are NATIONS Vfom Egypt to Rome AND the coming Anti-Christ. They are seen three times in Rev. 12, 13 and 17 all three times designating different entities. Rev. 12 is the Dragon/Satan, thus the CROWNS are on the heads. FRev. 13 is the Anti-Christ thus the CROWNS are on the Horns/10 Kings and Rev. 17 is Apollyon, he has NO CROWNS and is now in the Bottomless Pit, he WAS ovder the Mediterranean Sea Region, he IS NOT.....YET IS in that he will vbe released at the 1st Woe. There is NO RELIGIOUS MONSTER with 7 Heads, that by definituion stands for Governments Beasts nor Religious Beasts. The HARLOT....RIDES....The Beast. You are CONFLATING THE TWO !! The Harlot (All False Religion of ALL TIME) is killed off. The 7 Heads stand for the 6 Nations over the Region AND the coming Anti-Christ and his 10 Kings. God REDUCES THEM to Kings who have FALLEN so we will know that this last Beast Head will both ARISE and FALL whereas the other arose, passed on theor Kingdoms, then SOMEOME ELSE FELL, but the Last Beast will both ARISE and FALL withing 1260 day period as the Beast. None of the others did that, so THE BEASTS were Nations........BUT God tells us this Beast will be A MAN the Number of A MAN not a Nation per se. What the whole Reducing of Mountains (powers that arise above the plain) to Kings that Have FALLEN is doing is telling us the LAST BEAST is a MAN not a Nation/Kingdom. I just explained it to you. This has ZERO to do with the Mortal Wound of Rev. 13, that is about the Kingdoms and the Last King/Beast. The Wound is or was Rome, the BEAST SYSTEM went into a FROZEN POSITION for 2000 some odd years. It died, it was no more, God saw Israel as Dead Men's Bones. So the two are not speaking about the same things, and yes a Kingdom or Beast System can indeed be WOUNDED FFIGURATIVELY !! If its thwarted and never arises again for 2000 years beause it can't overcome the Church ( the gates of hell can not destroy the Church, Jesus told Paul that), then it has a MORTAL WOUND....Pssttt, there is no real 7 Headed Beast either....so when it DIES for a While, that just means its NOT A BEAST KINGDOM ANYMORE !! The Beast Kingdom will come back to life AFTER the Rapture of the Church, and when the Anti-Christ Conquers Israel !! The Beast is HEALED. You are getting it wrong, thenn adding in these quotes about spectulation, and you can't anythimg but "your facts". ALL FALSE RELIGION of ALL TIME is the Harlot and she is killed off, this is east pickings. The 10 Kings of the Beast DESTROY Islam, Buddhism and ALL RELIGIONS save Beast Worship. The 7 Kings who fell were the LAST KINGS in each Kingdom from Egypt to Rome AND the Anti-Christ. They have zilch to do with the RCC. SMH....
  11. Your timing is all out of whack. I don't think you would understand what a red flag is, nor do I care tbh. Your whole Anti-Christ is accepted as christ is a red flag, because it never happens. And the whole Two-witnesses come in the first 1260 days is a red flag, it's mathematically impossible brother. Just because you can't understand my pooints on Paul's letters, vs. other passages, that is not on me brother. Of course it does. ones about an IDOL....the other suggests its a man, or maybe that is not what Paul meant, but you guuys deem it so. All I know is its an Idol according to Jesus and John. I trust what Jesus said, you follow Paul. RIGHT.......They all three are THREE EVENTS that wend in 13335, 1290 and 1260 days respectively.
  12. Red flag is on you because you don't understand what to do when scriprures "SUPPOSEDLY CLASHES" even though I have revealed this to you before via Daniel 7:11 and Rev. 19:20, one says the Beasts BODY is destroyed and he is then cast into hell {Dan. 7:11} and the other one says he is cast ALIVE into hell. Since we know God can't lie, then its one of two things, the translation of one of the passages is wrong/off kilter or we have misunderstood one of the passages. In the case of Rev. 19:20, it is misdoiagnosed. The Beast is never allowed to go to the Grave, we NEVER DIE as Spirits, and since Dan. 7:11 EXPRESSLY says he dies then he dies....indeed, then he is cast STRAIGHT INTO HELL....And yes his spirit is alive, they never die it seems, he is never allowed to rest in the grave like the other wicked men. Likewise, I don't buy what you guys THINK Paul said in 2 Thess. 2, I buy what Jesus said in Matthew 24:15-17, and what John said in Rev. 13, its an IMAGAE that is placed in the most Holy of Holies. Jesus is spreakimg about AN IDOL and so is John in Rev. 13. I will go with Jesus/God and John who was called unto Prophetic utterings over Paul's words in a letter to the Thessalonians. What gets me is people all over who actually ASSUME Paul knew his letters was going to be Cannonized as Scriptures. Thus if I wrote a letter to a Church nowadays, and many on the Prophetic sphere thought as some here do, that the RCC might have something to do with the end time Beast {it doesn't} and I stated this in a letter, that is not meant to be THUS SAITH THE LORD !! Daniel was Thus saith thre Lord, as was Jeremiah, and Ezekiel, and John in the book of Revelation, as was Jesus of course, but a letter to a Church by Paul was not INTENDED by him to be Cannonized. FACTS. One can overeemphasize those letters if they want to, they are a look into the beginning of the Gentile Church via Paul, and HIS....A-1 Job was to start up the Gentile Church, not to deliver Prophecy per se. John and Jesus delivered Perophecy, John via Jesus. You have to know how to follow the proper guidance when you have clashes in scriptures brother. The Abomination that makes Desolate (SPOILS THE SANCTUARY) is the Idol. They also forbod the wotship of Jesus/God the Father or Jehova. Same event. The AoD is the transgression. Of course it does, VERSE 8 asks that very question, WHAT SHALL BE THE END of these wonders. Just like we are given the number of days until the Second Coming ENDS ALL THESE THINGS in verse 4-6, we are given the number of days from the 1290 until the Second Coming. And from the 1335 until the Second Coming. All three END with the Second Coming.
  13. You conflated it, threw away the meanimg, and gave me a confused theeory brother as per the 1335. There is, there is one man who BEASTS over the Governments of the world who then apoints the other man to BEAST over Religion and demands worship. One will BEAST over the Goverbnments for 1260 days, includuing Israel, the other over Religion for 1260 days, but the first one is a politacl leader for at least 7 years, and probably muchy longer, and the other is a Religious fifgure for much longer also. They are just BEASTS {DOMINATORS) for 42 months. The 2nd Beast os over Religion, he is given authority through monetary polices to demand the Worship of the First Beast. The Pope is not THE BEAST.....you need to shove that out at 10,000 feet and let it crash land. That is old, outdated thought brother. Not only is it not true, but it can't be true via the prophetic word. Men twist things to make thenm appear to fit, but its utter fake news. We can have Preacherfs who are evil and hell bound, that doesn't make them THE BEAST either. I showed in my other post why he has to be born in Greece !! The first 3.5 years is cloaked in FAKE PEACE. The 1260 days he rules in the second 3.5 is the only time he BEASTS over Israel and the whole Mediterranean Sea Region and most of the world in all probability. However I think he has nations like China and Russia who join him, I don't think he has to Conquer all Nations to entice them to follow his lead against God. I also don't think hes a FALSE LAMB/Jesus, he Conquers these MANY NATIONS, so why fake beijng Jesus/The Christ ? Only for one reason, to try and get the 1/3 of the Jews who Fled to Judea to come out of their SAFE ZONE, thus Jesus warns these Jews who fled Judea to not belive there is a christ in the desert or in the secret store room etc. In other words, Jesus says....I will come from the Eastern Skies !! Don't believe it, behold I have FOREWARNED YOU, thus you can't be tricked or decieved. So he only has to FAKE being a The Christ to try a trick those Jews in Petras safe zone, he can get at and kill everybody else, so why must he pretend ? An IMAGE pf the Beast stands erect in the Temple. I don't know that he actually tamkes up residence in the Temple. The portion I REDDED above is very important, I will show why later on. I think you meant the AC will set up in the Temple not the AD. I see the High Priest, who eventually becomes the Religious Beast, as placcing the IMAGE of the Beast in the Temple, Jesus refers to that which ought not as STANDING in the Temple, like unto an Idol. Rev. 13 tellds us the Religious Beast places an IMAGE of the first Beast in the Temple and demands that all men Worship it, thus I see it as an idol placed in the Temple, I don't see the Beast/AC moving into the Temple per se, regardless of what Paul states in 2 Thess. When scriptures clash we have to investigate, I think Jesus refers to an IDOL standing where it ought not, not a man per se. As I stated above, I don't think a Conquerer needs to be a FAKE ANYTHING, he just Conquers. Oh my Lord, what shall be the END OF THESE THINGS ? This is key. One can't undersstand verses 11 and 12 without looking at verse 8. Daniel 12:8 And I heard, but I understood not: then said I, O my Lord, what shall be the end of these things? So Daniel then asks the SAME QUESTION that the Angel put forth to Jesus in verse 6 !! What shall be the END OF THESE THINGS ? And Jesus told about the 1260 and how in 1260 days (Time, times and half) these things would end !! Meaning the Second Coming OF COURSE !! So the question in verse 8 implies the exact same thing, Daniel wants the Man in Linen to tell him when these things will end. Then we get verse 11 and 12, IN THAT CONTEXT. I will even throw in verse 10. Daniel 12:10 Many shall be purified, and made white, and tried (CHURCH AGE SAINTS); but the wicked shall do wickedly: and none of the wicked shall understand; but the wise shall understand. 11 And from the time that the daily sacrifice shall be taken away, and the abomination that maketh desolate set up, there shall be a thousand two hundred and ninety days (See verse 8 TILL THESE THINGS END, Jesus answered THE QUESTION). 12 Blessed is he that waiteth, and cometh to the thousand three hundred and five and thirty days {This is an UNSTATED EVENT like the above AoD, Jesus doesn't tell what it is, he just says BLESSED is he that comes to the EVENT that is 1335 days from the time ALL THESE WONDERS/THINGS END. That event is the Two-witnesses showing up BEFOFRE the Day of the Lord starts.....just like Malachi 4:5-6 says will happen !! The 1335 is wheb the Two-witnesses show up. The 1290 ids THE SIGN to Flee Judea 30 days BEFORE the 1260 which is when the BEAST COMES FORTH, and thus the Day of the Lord begins. So WHEN WILL THESE THINGS END is very, very key here.
  14. Except it doesn't add up. Its easyy to see it can't add up correctly brother, I grant you that. My post above or on the previous page explains it perfectly. Because the Jews see the Messiah as a Political Leader, not THE Son of God...but by the time we are speakimg about the Jews will have REPENTED and will have ACCPTED Jesus as the Son of the living God !! Not a Gentile Leader. That's why they have to Flee...just because you had that idea at one time berother, doesn't mean you have to keep it forever and always. The Problem is many of them think they have been called unto eschatology, but haven't. Agreed.
  15. We are not in they 3.5 years of quasi peace, that can only happen after the Rapture of the Church. TV Satellites have reached all nations. CBN put up Satellites long ago that shows the NBA and so did TBN or Trinity, and they go to Muslim nations, the tradeoff is they have to carry TBN and CBN, the Gospel has been carried unto all nations brother. We are just awituing the call from our Lord to come up hither, then THE END.....70th Week will be upon the world. We Christiansa who get translated DIE we don't just go to Heaven in this SIN FLESH, our sin flesh can't enter heaven, we shed this body in the "TWINKLING" of an eye and go to heaven as Spirit Men, without corruption, then we recieve our Glorious bodies.
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