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  1. Revelation Man

    Daniel 11 & 12 historically explained step by step.

    Gottcha Yeah, I used to think that as well, "That can't be right...only two kings." But no one has yet proven, with scripture, the KOTN is the same as the willful king. If you can, please do. I'm never wrong when I allow scripture to correct my thinking. It's rather obvious to me, via the whole Syrian Wars we are taken through that its always the King of the North vs. the King of the South. That's why I placed the First Map of the Syrian Wars up in the OP. Thus the last End Time Battle is described in like manner. Via the Holman Christian Standard Bible we get only TWO HEADERS via the whole chapter. Daniel 11:1 In the first year of Darius the Mede, I stood up to strengthen and protect him. 2 Now I will tell you the truth. Prophecies about Persia and Greece “Three more kings will arise in Persia, and the fourth will be far richer than the others. By the power he gains through his riches, he will stir up everyone against the kingdom of Greece. 3 Then a warrior king will arise; he will rule a vast realm and do whatever he wants. 4 But as soon as he is established, his kingdom will be broken up and divided to the four winds of heaven, but not to his descendants; it will not be the same kingdom that he ruled, because his kingdom will be uprooted and will go to others besides them. Kings of the South and the North No use posting the whole chapter of course, I was just pointing out that every other battle i the chapter seems to be the KOTN vs. the KOTS, there is only TWO HEADERS in the whole chapter, so that is what the HSCB Version thinks on this. We know Antiochus Epiphanes dies around verse 32, then we get this: Daniel 11:32 With flattery he (AE4) will corrupt those who act wickedly toward the covenant, but the people who know their God will be strong and take action (Maccabean Revolt). 33 Those who are wise among the people will give understanding to many, yet they will die by sword and flame, and be captured and plundered for a time. 34 When defeated, they will be helped by some, but many others will join them insincerely. 35 Some of the wise will fall so that they may be refined, purified, and cleansed until the TIME OF THE END, for it will still come at the appointed time. ( The Anti-Christ is End Time, we have just transitioned from AE4 to the End Time Beast. ) 36 “Then the king (Anti-Christ) will do whatever he wants. He will exalt and magnify himself above every god, and he will say outrageous things against the God of gods. He will be successful until the time of wrath is completed,because what has been decreed will be accomplished. 37 He will not show regard for the gods[q] of his fathers, the god longed for by women, or for any other god, because he will magnify himself above all. 38 Instead, he will honor a god of fortresses—a god his fathers did not know—with gold, silver, precious stones, and riches. 39 He will deal with the strongest fortresses with the help of a foreign god. He will greatly honor those who acknowledge him,[r] making them rulers over many and distributing land as a reward. 40 “At the time of the end, the king of the South will engage him in battle, but the king of the North will storm against him with chariots, horsemen, and many ships. He will invade countries and sweep through them like a flood. 41 He will also invade the beautiful land, and many will fall. But these will escape from his power: Edom, Moab, and the prominent people of the Ammonites. 42 He will extend his power against the countries, and not even the land of Egypt will escape. 43 He will get control over the hidden treasures of gold and silver and over all the riches of Egypt. The Libyans and Cushites will also be in submission.[t] 44 But reports from the east and the north will terrify him, and he will go out with great fury to annihilate and completely destroy many. 45 He will pitch his royal tents between the sea and the beautiful holy mountain, but he will meet his end with no one to help him. Now you and many others say that verse 36 can't be the King of the North, or it would have stated as much in verse 36, but it says THE KING WILL thus hes a WILLFUL KING, it says HE, HE, HE over and over then in verse 40 it says the King of the South will push at him........NOW LOOK BELOW, do you think Antiochus is the King of the North? Well the EXACT SAME THING HAPPENS !! Antiochus is not called the King of the North until verse 28, thus it goes 7 verses without calling Antiochus Epiphanes the KOTN, yet you do not acknowledge the PATTERN of the writer Daniel there, nor do you doubt he is the King of the North in that instance !! But there IS NO DIFFERENCE !! Daniel 11:21 “In his place a despised person (Vile Person) will arise; royal honors will not be given to him, but he will come during a time of peace and seize the kingdom by intrigue. 22 A flood of forces will be swept away before him; they will be shattered, as well as the covenant prince. 23 After an alliance is made with him, he will act deceitfully. He will rise to power with a small nation. 24 During a time of peace, he will come into the richest parts of the province and do what his fathers and predecessors never did. He will lavish plunder, loot, and wealth on his followers, and he will make plans against fortified cities, but only for a time. 25 “With a large army he will stir up his power and his courage against the king of the South. The king of the South will prepare for battle with an extremely large and powerful army, but he will not succeed, because plots will be made against him. 26 Those who eat his provisions will destroy him; his army will be swept away, and many will fall slain. 27 The two kings, whose hearts are bent on evil, will speak lies at the same table but to no avail, for still the end will come at the appointed time.28 The king of the North will return to his land with great wealth, but his heart will be set against the holy covenant;[n] he will take action, then return to his own land. So just like verses 36-39 verses 21-27 go by without ANY MENTION of the King of the North, he is spoken of without the TITLE King of the North, thus what makes you think the prophet Daniel is not also speaking about the King of the North in verses 36-39 but that he is speaking about the King of the North in verses 21-27? It seems Daniel speaks in vernacular generalities until he starts speaking about the Battles these two "sdes' have, then he speaks of them via the King of the South vs. the King of the North. So the Anti-Christ in verse 36 is, IMHO, the King of the North. God Bless.....
  2. Revelation Man

    AMERICA: NEW ROME & BABYLON THE GREAT ("Come out of her, My people...")

    It will be THE False Prophet and Anti-Christ. A Gentile King, of Assyrian heritage, born in Greece, who comes to power in some type of European Union type Government. I am now seeing a backlash all over Europe to those crazy IMMIGRATION POLICIES pushed by Soros and the Elites, they are all backtracking, this could "shake" the E.U. down to a bare 10 Nations, we will see. Germany is about to oust Merkel because of her immigration policies, Italy just elected an Anti Immigration President, England left the E.U. Austria, Poland and other nations are bucking the E.U. Policy from Brussels. I expect a LEADER to come to power by offering a solution to this problem BIG TIME, its going to push the E.U. into an Anti Muslim type of position, then this leader will oust all of these Radical Muslims and thus he will be seen world wide as a Great Leader. Just wait for it to get worse, then this man will come in and clean it up and that will be his starting point, WATCH FOR IT !! This is not the thread to get into that, but as I stated, God Created the Universe over 13.7 Billion years ago, He created the Earth 4.5 Billion years ago and He created Man 6000 years ago per IMPARTING His Spirit in us, any man like creature on earth before that was not created in the IMAGE OF God of course. YOWM the word for Day has about different 50 meanings, one is "A PERIOD OF TIME" another is "TO BE HOT" so to think it means an EARTHLY DAY when the Earth wasn't even around for the first 9.2 Billion years is odd logic to me.
  3. Revelation Man

    AMERICA: NEW ROME & BABYLON THE GREAT ("Come out of her, My people...")

    Nice and concise summation. Bravo !! Too many people are trying to make the 8th King an earthly king. When it clearly says he is of the Seven, meaning he was placed over the region. This region is the Mediterranean Sea Region which includes Israel, thus the Beast terminology. There are other strongholds like this all around the world via a Demonic Entity, but they have no power over Israel and that region so thus they are not a part of anything that the books of Daniel or Revelation speaks about. So there are Demonic Entities over New York City, over Honk Kong, over Orlando and even countries like Panama or Brazil etc. etc. but they are not a part of the Figurative Seven Headed Beast.
  4. Revelation Man

    Pope as AntiChrist?

    I want to try and extrapolate your thought process on the Lamb with two horns, but only after mentioning John 5:43, Jesus was speaking specifically here to certain Pharisees/Religious Jews from his time. They....AS IN THEY Rejected Jesus as the Son of God but they also thought (properly I might add) that Rome was the Fourth Beast and thus they were expecting the Little Horn to show up, thus around 70 AD, many of THOSE same men (Pharisees etc,) that rejected Jesus as the Son of God tried to put Forth various men as the Christ/Messiah, they tried to force it in other words. They did not understand it would be 2000 years later before the Little Horn showed up. As per the "false lamb" being the false messiah, I don't think it means that. Hes the False Prophet and Prophets do what? Give Direction, Teach, Preach, bring forth THUS SAITH THE LORD !! Thus hes the opposite. He looks like a LAMB (Jesus taught us TRUTHS) but he speaks as a Dragon (LIES). Do you see the difference in thinking there brother? Instead of False Messiah............Hes bringing UNTRUTHS unto the MASSES. Jesus the Lamb is TRUTH, Satan is a LIAR. He speaks as a LIAR, but pretends to be a High Priest probably.
  5. Revelation Man

    Daniel 11 & 12 historically explained step by step.

    Yes, Jesus is shown first in chapter 10, he speaks of Micheal helping him, but like I stated, I think chapters 10, 11 and 12 are one big vision. Thus Jesus gives the Visions and then tells Gabriel to explain the Visions unto Daniel. It seems there are three there, Jesus and two Angels, so that is correct, I think the Man in Linen is Jesus Christ, but I could be wrong, but I have always thought that's who it is. I guess I should have stated Gabriel is interpreting the visions, see Daniel ch. 12. But I agree Jesus and two Angels are bringing this vision and interpretation unto Daniel, its pretty much all the same, they are bringing Daniel the word of knowledge. Some people deny its Jesus, some say it has to be Micheal and not Jesus because it says to start chapter 11 that EVEN I STOOD TO STRENGTHEN Darius the Mede, thus since we know Gabriel is named in Chapter 12 as interpreting these visions, I just credit it all to Gabriel, I usually don't get any push-back on this, but we will go with it could be Jesus, Gabriel and Michael, I am OK with that brother, and I agree, good observation there. He was opposed by the Prince of Persia (Apollyon), who did not want to allow Greece (Alexander the Great) to defeat Persia, but God/Jesus/Micheal wanted Greece to win, that is why Alexander the Great had such a swift victory, Jesus/Micheal was doing his bidding !! Then when Greece was given the victory, Apollyon became the Prince of Greece, then the Prince of Rome, thus the Scarlet Colored Beast was OF THE SEVEN while being the 8th. The War in Heaven is not about this vision per se, this Vision about these Kingdoms over the Mediterranean Sea Region. Its History brother, looking these people up is tedious, but its not rocket science, I did this for myself and my brethren, I am not looking to publish a book here brother. And I don't usually debate in my own threads that heavily, I leave it for others to knock around. I will answer questions if replied to, but I just do this for people to bookmark and enjoy as a reference point. I do things for my own pleasure, not the worlds pleasure brother. Learn to lighten up a little, its all good. into the middle of a story that should have led to only one conclusion, the Seleucids are the origin of the beast and his coming kingdom. Don't you see that? You just followed them with adequate enough detail to prove this. That's because the Antiochus Epiphanes situation as per his death, ended the Grecian Dynasty as per being a Beast over the Mediterranean Sea Region for all intense purposes, AE4 was a forerunner to the Anti-Christ, then after verses 33-35, we see the Anti-Christ in verses 36-45, so of course I need to put forth who became the Fourth Beast brother, Rome defeated Greece at Antioch and thus pretty much took over the Region, they were already ordering AE4 around anyway. Its not going to be a man via the Seleucid lineage, he will be an Assyrian, read Isaiah ch. 10, then the first part of Isaiah ch. 11. Hes a real hodge podge of a stinker. Hes an Assyrian, born in Greece, who comes to power in the E.U.. thus the Seleucid's are not important at all as per the coming Anti-Christ, the only think that is Important is that he is the King of the North, NO ONE GETS THAT !! God remember, WANTS TO CONFUSE/CONFOUND the World, but we are given these things by the Holy Spirit starting in the end times (NOW). You seem to be looking towards a LINEAGE, God has already NAMED the Lineage, its the Assyrian Lineage !! How can it be the Seleucid lineage? Have you ever thought about that? Or do you think they are Seleucid's? They aren't. We have the Assyrian lineage, the Greek Kingdom he is born in via Dan. ch. 8 AND the Beast Empire he Arises out of and comes to power in, the Fourth Beast (Rome) via the E.U. All Three have to be CHECKED OFF or it will not fit. That is three of the Six Beast Heads he has ties to, he might (operative word MIGHT...that's how I think) have ties to all Six Beast Heads, I never thought of that........I will look at that though for sure, its what I do. I never heard of Jon Snow, you will have to fill me in on the inside joke here. I see the last KOTN as being the Assyrian, born in Greece, and coming to power in the E.U. Google the Roman Empire Beast Map....then Google the (ENP) European Neighborhood Policy MAP.....Thy are IDENTICAL. Read up on the ENP, its a Seven Year Agreements (Covenant) which is IN PLACE NOW, in my opinion, with the E.U. and MANY Nations. it's because the willful king is in between and to the east of the kings of the north and south. Look at the verse, now look at what you said below. The Anti-Christ is the KOTN Brother. The term HIM is just implying that they are pushing at EACH OTHER. He pushes at HIM and he comes against HIM. No brother there are only two Kings not three. I am getting tired tonight/SLEEPY, keep digging, its all good. God Bless brother.
  6. Revelation Man

    AMERICA: NEW ROME & BABYLON THE GREAT ("Come out of her, My people...")

    No use rehashing this, its obvious you have Islam "on the mind" as per what you think, even though the scripture, IMHO, do not attest to it, so we would just be wasting each others time going over the same things. Rome is not a Beast..........You and about 100 other people think this way. Or maybe ts a 1000, or 10,000. Its not very many, but that's the only way your Islam theory works so I get it. I am just not buying it brother. Not at all, I pointed out that the Fourth Beast is different in a unique way though I never emphasized why, I meant to do that at the end of the other post, so here goes. You guys who claim the Fourth Beast is different overlook the fact they they were ALL DIFFERENT, and then you miss what is different, what Gabriel shows us in verses 23-25. You guys overtly make the point that the Fourth Beast is different from the other three, but that was a GIVEN, so when it mentions again that the Fourth Beast is different, you guys say "SEE ITS DIFFERENT FROM TE OTHER THREE" when in reality its not speaking about being different from the other three here per se. Its speaking of something most people miss all together. So when you see this (BELOW SCRIPTURES), you are correct, it means something different than verse 3, BUT.......you guys who see these verses below want to differentiate it from the other THREE.........But if that is what it meant verse 3 would have sufficed right? Of course, so what does it mean? Well Gabriel TELLS US WHAT IT MEANS !! From verse 16 to 25 Gabriel interprets the Vision. I will do this in segments, its really important. Daniel 7: 16 I came near unto one of them that stood by, and asked him the truth of all this. So he told me, and made me know the interpretation of the things. 17 These great beasts, which are four, are four kings, which shall arise out of the earth. 18 But the saints of the most High shall take the kingdom, and possess the kingdom for ever, even for ever and ever. {{{ These Great beasts which are four (ANIMALS MENTIONED IN Daniel are 4, including the Fierce Beast) are Four Kings, so all of the rest of History via Israel's being under bondage to these Great Gentile Nations will spring forth from JUST Four Kings, the King that Started Babylon, the King that started Persia, the King that started Greece and the King that started Rome. Then the Saints of the most high will be give the Kingdom by God/Jesus. }}} Daniel 7: 19 Then I would know the truth of the fourth beast, which was diverse from all the others, exceeding dreadful, whose teeth were of iron, and his nails of brass; which devoured, brake in pieces, and stamped the residue with his feet; 20 And of the ten horns that were in his head, and of the other which came up, and before whom three fell; even of that horn that had eyes, and a mouth that spake very great things, whose look was more stout than HIS FELLOWS (Hes a MAN). 21 I beheld, and the same horn made war with the saints, and prevailed against them; 22 Until the Ancient of days came, and judgment was given to the saints of the most High; and the time came that the saints possessed the kingdom. {{{ The Fourth Beast upon the earth is of course Rome, the only reason for it not to be Rome is it makes the Islam option go away. Rome is noted as the Iron Kingdom and always has been. Rome ruled or BEASTED over Israel, Islam never has and never will. Of course you guys seeminhly don't get the RIDDLE of the Fourth Beast which Gabriel gives unto us in verses 23-25. You seemingly can't see why/how the Fourth Beast is Rome and is also defeated via the End Times whereas the Saints are given the victory over the Fourth Beast, who is A MAN, who has EYES, a MOUTH and a STOUT LOOK. Not a Demon. }}} Daniel 7:23 Thus he said, The fourth beast shall be the fourth kingdom upon earth, which shall be diverse from ALL KINGDOMS, and shall devour the whole earth, and shall tread it down, and break it in pieces. 24 And the ten horns out of this kingdom are ten kings that shall arise: and another shall rise after them; and HE SHALL BE DIVERSE FROM THE FIRST, and he shall subdue three kings. 25 And he shall speak great words against the most High, and shall wear out the saints of the most High, and think to change times and laws: and they shall be given into his hand until a time and times and the dividing of time. {{{ DO YOU SEE IT? The Fourth Beast IS DIFFERENT from the rest, it clearly states in verse 23 that the Fourth Beast is different from ALL THE KINGDOMS !! Just like all the others were different also from each other in verse 3. BUT...........HERE IS THE KEY !! Watch for it. After the Fourth Beast that was different from ALL THE BEASTS devours the whole earth (all the land in the region spoken of) and treads it down and breaks it in pieces (ROME).........THEN...........10 Horns Arise, and ANOTHER (Little Horn) shall Arise AFTER THEM...........AND........HE SHALL BE DIVERSE FROM THE FIRST !!! Not from the Others, not from ALL THE OTHERS like the Fourth Beast but he (Little Horn) is DIVERSE FROM THE FIRST [BEAST] that arises out of this Kingdom via this King that started this Kingdom (ROME). Its TWO DIFFERENT BEASTS !! Its very clear. The FOURTH BEAST in verse 23 is DIFFERENT FROM ALL THE OTHER BEASTS !! The Little Horn is only different from THE FIRST !! Meaning the First Beast via the FOURTH BEAST KINGDOM, it can be nothing else, its very clear the Little Horn is different from ONE BEAST, the First Beast out of the Fourth Beast..........The Little Horn is Different than Rome !! Verse 23 can't say the FOURTH BEAST is diverse from ALL THE BEASTS and then turn around in verse 24 and say hes ONLY DIFFERENT from the FIRST !! Its just not a possible solution to the Riddle. The two verses CONTRADICT THEMSELVES, thus it a Riddle of God, and only God can help us solve it. Rome IS the Deadly Wound !! The Seven Headed Beast is NO MORE for nigh 2000 years, then after Israel is REBORN and after the Church is Raptured, then and only then will the Anti-Christ Conquer Jerusalem/Israel, ad thus become the LAST BEAST HEAD, thus HEALING the Mortal Wound !! The Little Horn is a BEAST..................&......................ROME was a Beast !! Islam is not a Beast brother. The Last Beast is cast into the the Lake of Fire, he is DIFFERENT FROM THE FIRST [Beast] out of the Fourth Kingdom. Rome is a Beast and the Little Horn is a Beast. }}}
  7. Revelation Man

    AMERICA: NEW ROME & BABYLON THE GREAT ("Come out of her, My people...")

    Its a fact sir, I can't give you this gift of seeing these things (gift of prophesy) it comes from God Himself. I don't do assumptions, I leave that for the rest, I follow the Holy Spirit which seems to be an abstract entity in many Christians ways of thinking. I don't need approval of men to teach what the Holy Spirit is teaching, I can explain it, but I can't make you see what you can't see, so once I explain it, my job is done. As per Israel, they are ALIVE as a people/NATION, when they are in Egypt, God has dealings with them, likewise in Babylon God was prophesying through Daniel and even Jeremiah, God still favored Israel via the Persian King etc. etc. The reason Israel was not in the land in those cases were in Babylon they were being corrected, in Egypt the Canaanites (and others) sins had not yet come full, thus Israel became a Nation in Egypt and His renown was born world wide as the Great God of the Israelites. As per 70-125 AD -1948, they were not in the Land because the were DEAD UNTO God !! This can't really get any more basic than this, you are taking something that is a simple understanding and talking it into complexities which need not apply. Israel was not in the land for only one reason, God did not recognize Israel as a nation, in Egypt God saw them as Israel, in Babylon God still had every intention to bring them back to Israel to rebuild it thus He still had dealings with them, God completely turned His back on Israel for 2000 years circa 70-125 AD. Nothing is going to change that fact brother. There are 100's of things that SCREAM Islam is going to be wiped out, not just one thing. Richardson and Shoebat are making tons of money, but they are leading people astray, just like Armstrong and others did on the RCC. My position has never changed, I have had to tackle this same view a few other times, the difference is God saw Israel as a Nation, and Israel was being birthed in Egypt because the tribes in the promised land had not yet sinned enough against God to cause Him to vomit them out of the land. In all cases, Israel was Gods chosen people, after they rejected Jesus, God turned His back on them for 2000 years. Islam is nothing unto Israel, that is a fact sir, If you choose to believe they are a Beast over Israel when they have never ruled the Jews you go right ahead, but it just doesn't pass the smell test of Prophecy sir in my humble opinion. Which is why you do not come to an opinion (ISLAM or the RCC) then investigate with an idea already formulated in your head as per the results, its called confirmation bias, and I see it all the time. I had to learn to start my endeavors with a clear mind. The Jews were as Dead unto God until 1948, Nazi Germany was Conquered in 1945. God brought Israel back to life afterwards. Here is something most everyone misses. So you think the Fourth Beast is different than the other three right? But there is a scripture most everyone overlooks that says all FOUR of then were different from each other: SO YOU SEE VERSE 7...............but not VERSE 3. 7 After this I saw in the night visions, and behold a fourth beast, dreadful and terrible, and strong exceedingly; and it had great iron teeth: it devoured and brake in pieces, and stamped the residue with the feet of it: and it was diverse from all the beasts that were before it; and it had ten horns. 3 And four great beasts came up from the sea, DIVERSE ONE FROM ANOTHER. So verse 3 tells us verse 7 has no super special meaning as many would seemingly assume, of course they are all DIFFERENT from one another, they are four different Kingdoms !! Thus they were given different Animal names, and one was called a Fierce looking beast with Iron teeth. Now the Fourth Kingdom was also different in that Two Beasts arise out of it, that is told later, but they are ALL FOUR DIVERSE from each other of course. Islam is not in consideration, Israel was DEAD (AS DEAD MEN'S BONES), and that is straight from Gods mouth. Islam is nothing compared to Rome, you are defining a Religion to start with not a Gentile Kingdom, but its not debatable anyway, Islamic Nations are not over the Jews now and have never been nor will ever rule over the Jews. Of course if you come to that conclusion first its hard to shed that line of thinking. As I proved above, the DIFFERENCE/DIVERSITY means nothing. They were ALL DIFFERENT. Islam will be wiped out, I can only point to the clues that's all I can do brother. One thing we should all learn rather quick, Atheists seek PROOF, then wonder why God doesn't give them what they think needs to be given. God stated the RIGHTEOUS will live by FAITH, Abraham was Righteous because he believed God. I only see the ways of the Holy Spirit, those with the Holy Spirit edify the things of the Spirit. I don't really care what men think, when the Holy Spirit gives me an understanding, I am fixed on that forever. What is of me is of me, what is of the Holy Spirit is of the Holy Spirit, the key is hearing the small still voice. The Atheists will be in hell crying "God never gave them proof", the sad thing is He was speaking to them the whole time, they refused to search God out. So there is ONE SPOT LEFT. No room for anything other than the coming Anti-Christ. Like I have stated before, I could care less what any religion thinks. It is not prima facie evidence of anything, of course God has to destroy the Last Beast and his False Prophet, that goes without saying they aren't going to destroy themselves. That should never be brought up by any man using logic, but you would be surprised how many times I hear it, its like a Dem or Republican trying to one up his opponent with something he knows is not a reality, yet he places foot in mouth because he just can't help himself. COME ON MAN !! 😄Come on man !! Again? Stuff like this befuddles me to be honest, its obvious isn't it what I am saying. No need to explain. Maybe I will do it in BIG RED LETTERS. ALL FALSE RELIGIONS WILL BE JUDGED BY GOD AND DESTROYED VIA GOD GIVING THE BEAST HIS HEARTS DESIRE TO RULE AS THE ONLY RULER OR RELIGIOUS LEADER DURING THE END TIMES.........GOD WILL THEN DESTROY THE BEAST AT ARMAGEDDON. I am being cheeky, I admit....... Israel was still not a rebirthed nation until 1948, the fact that Hitler killed 6 Million Jews should tell you God was not favoring Israel at the time, at all. But after Israel was REBIRTHED, they won wars that can not be explained. Yes sir I can, as a Preacher of over 30 years its my job to know the Holy Spirit's understandings via prophecy, that is why God called me unto Prophecy. I take a lot of things I disagree with seriously, just not "Rome NOT BEING a Beast". God Bless brother. Keep seeking earnestly and you will come to the truths you seek. I used to be a RCC is maybe the Beast type guy 30 years ago, saw through it, then I was a "Well the Pope has to be the False Prophet type", God showed me the truth, all because I am willing to be wrong. The RCC angle and the Islam angle are clever deceits by Satan. But why is he lying in those two areas? To cover where hes truly coming from of course. Look over here...........look over here..........BOOM............HERE I AM.
  8. I will endeavor to explain each step of the multi-faceted prophecy by Daniel in chapters 11 and 12. Its a tedious project to be sure, but I got tired of telling everyone who asked me what Daniel chapter 11 meant and having to tell them it was too complex for me to explain it unto them, so I went to studying and matching each verse with history as best I could. I found Daniel chapter 12 is an extension of Daniel chapter 11, so they kind of go hand and hand, Daniel 10 should actually go with this as its all one big vision, but for brevity's sake (if you want to call it that, LOL) we can chat about chapter 10 in the thread if needed. DANIEL CHAPTER 11 & 12 AN EXEGESIS OF SORTS: Daniel 11 King James Version (KJV) 11 Also I in the first year of Darius the Mede, even I, stood to confirm and to strengthen him. The first verse in chapter 11 is seemingly a direct continuation of chapter 10. Gabriel is still uttering unto Daniel things to come. Gabriel states that back in the first year of Darius (same year Daniel ch. 9 was given us) that he "stood to confirm and strengthen him". So what does this even mean? Who are the players here? Micheal, Gabriel, Darius and Daniel, so who stood to confirm and strengthen? I proffer that its Darius who is being strengthened by Gabriel and I get that by looking at the next few verses in contextual sequence. It seems Gabriel comes against certain world powers and sometimes strengthens other world powers, according to Gods will. The powers of the spiritual world and their behind the scenes back and forth is indeed fascinating. 2 And now will I shew thee the truth. Behold, there shall stand up yet three kings in Persia; and the fourth shall be far richer than they all: and by his strength through his riches he shall stir up all against the realm of Grecia. This seems to be the whole history of Persia in one verse, just a filler of history so to speak. 3 And a mighty king shall stand up, that shall rule with great dominion, and do according to his will. This of course is about Alexander the great of Grecian lore. 4 And when he shall stand up, his kingdom shall be broken, and shall be divided toward the four winds of heaven; and not to his posterity, nor according to his dominion which he ruled: for his kingdom shall be plucked up, even for others beside those. After Alexander the Great died there stood up four Kings in his stead, this is not the norm to say the least. Succession of Kingdoms are usually passed from father to son or some close kin and thus this prophetic uttering was spot on, the Kingdom was divided unto his four Generals. 5 And the king of the south shall be strong, and one of his princes; and he shall be strong above him, and have dominion; his dominion shall be a great dominion. The King of the south as mentioned here is of course Ptolemy I (First) this is still speaking about the Greek Empire. The southern most kingdom became very strong and powerful as did the northern kingdom. Basically these two were the "super powers" of the region, while the other two diminished in power. This is the era of the First Syrian War being described. (Inset: Timeline & Map of the Syrian Wars.) 6 And in the end of years they shall join themselves together; for the king's daughter of the south shall come to the king of the north to make an agreement: but she shall not retain the power of the arm; neither shall he stand, nor his arm: but she shall be given up, and they that brought her, and he that begat her, and he that strengthened her in these times. We have moved ahead here to the last part of the Second Syrian War. Ptolemy II, the king of the south, sent his daughter Berenice unto Antiochus II, the king of the north hoping their marriage would bring peace. It however did not work as planned, Antiochus II, Berenice and their son were all murdered by Antiochus II's ex-wife. 7 But out of a branch of her roots (Berenice's brother) shall one stand up in his estate, which shall come with an army, and shall enter into the fortress of the king of the north, and shall deal against them, and shall prevail: 8 And shall also carry captives into Egypt their gods, with their princes, and with their precious vessels of silver and of gold; and he shall continue more years than the king of the north. 9 So the king of the south shall come into his kingdom, and shall return into his own land. The above describes the Third Syrian War. Ptolemy III, the brother of Berenice invaded the north victoriously. He recovered a number of statues and many valuables and returned them to Egypt. He of course outlived the king of the north by a few years, hence the prophetic uttering in verse 8 comes to pass. 10 But his sons shall be stirred up, and shall assemble a multitude of great forces: and one shall certainly come, and overflow, and pass through: then shall he return, and be stirred up, even to his fortress. 11 And the king of the south shall be moved with choler, and shall come forth and fight with him, even with the king of the north: and he shall set forth a great multitude; but the multitude shall be given into his hand. 12 And when he hath taken away the multitude, his heart shall be lifted up; and he shall cast down many ten thousands: but he shall not be strengthened by it. This of course is the Forth Syrian War. Antiochus III tried to invade the south but Ptolemy IV defeated him despite having a lesser army, but this seems to have manged to weaken both of them somewhat. 13 For the king of the north shall return, and shall set forth a multitude greater than the former, and shall certainly come after certain years with a great army and with much riches. 14 And in those times there shall many stand up against the king of the south: also the robbers of thy people shall exalt themselves to establish the vision; but they shall fall. 15 So the king of the north shall come, and cast up a mount, and take the most fenced cities: and the arms of the south shall not withstand, neither his chosen people, neither shall there be any strength to withstand. 16 But he that cometh against him shall do according to his own will, and none shall stand before him: and he shall stand in the glorious land, which by his hand shall be consumed. This of course is the Fifth Syrian War. Antiochus III returned some years later with a much larger army and took the land of Israel by force. 17 He shall also set his face to enter with the strength of his whole kingdom, and upright ones with him; thus shall he do: and he shall give him the daughter of women, corrupting her: but she shall not stand on his side, neither be for him. Antiochus III gave his daughter Cleopatra to Ptolemy V for a wife, but she ended up siding with Ptolemy V over her father. Blood is not always thicker than water it seems !! 18 After this shall he turn his face unto the isles, and shall take many: but a prince for his own behalf shall cause the reproach offered by him to cease; without his own reproach he shall cause it to turn upon him. 19 Then he shall turn his face toward the fort of his own land: but he shall stumble and fall, and not be found. Antiochus III ventured to take more lands, against the will of the Romans. He angered his former ally Macedonian king Philip V also, and was eventually killed in his homeland while plundering a pagan temple. 20 Then shall stand up in his estate a raiser of taxes in the glory of the kingdom: but within few days he shall be destroyed, neither in anger, nor in battle. Antiochus III's son Seleucus IV became king and had to raise taxes because Rome was forcing him to have to pay for all his fathers wars, he was soon poisoned to death it seems. 21 And in his estate shall stand up a vile person, to whom they shall not give the honour of the kingdom: but he shall come in peaceably, and obtain the kingdom by flatteries. Antiochus IV then became king, he is called a vile person. He became king via a series of maneuvers which included flattering the king of Pergamum to gain his allegiance and by the death of the young heir to the throne. 22 And with the arms of a flood shall they be overflown from before him, and shall be broken; yea, also the prince of the covenant. The High Priest, Onias III (prince of the covenant) was replaced via a conspiracy involving the high priests brother Jason and Antiochus Epiphanes but his brother was also double crossed when another priest bribed Antiochus Epiphanes with even more money, it seems he was for sale at all times for a price, Jason's real name was Yeshua, he favored the Hellenization of Jerusalem/Israel, where as his brother Onias III was a pious man of God who was put to death. 23 And after the league made with him he shall work deceitfully: for he shall come up, and shall become strong with a small people. Antiochus Epiphanes wanted to conquer Egypt in a bad way. He took a "small army" down to Egypt feigning to be the protector of Ptolemy VI who was his nephew. He was of course trying to deceive them whereas he could eventually conquer them via craftiness. This was seemingly his master-plan. 24 He shall enter peaceably even upon the fattest places of the province; and he shall do that which his fathers have not done, nor his fathers' fathers; he shall scatter among them the prey, and spoil, and riches: yea, and he shall forecast his devices against the strong holds, even for a time. Antiochus Epiphanes gained Egypt's trust and loyalty via spreading his bounty from his wars amongst the public. He visited Egyptian strongholds to get a better understanding on how to conquer them, he was quite cunning, just like the coming Anti-Christ will be. 25 And he shall stir up his power and his courage against the king of the south with a great army; and the king of the south shall be stirred up to battle with a very great and mighty army; but he shall not stand: for they shall forecast devices against him. 26 Yea, they that feed of the portion of his meat shall destroy him, and his army shall overflow: and many shall fall down slain. This is the Sixth Syrian War, (the last of the lot). This was Antiochus Epiphanes against Ptolemy VI. Antiochus Epiphanes attacked Egypt and prevailed over them and many of the Egyptians stood by him and betrayed Ptolemy VI. He was a corrupter of people no doubt, he knew how to divide and conquer. 27 And both of these kings' hearts shall be to do mischief, and they shall speak lies at one table; but it shall not prosper: for yet the end shall be at the time appointed. Watching Antiochus Epiphanes operate must have been enthralling back in the day. He pretended to support Ptolemy VI his blood kin, and he pretended to have his best interest in mind, but the truth is he was pitting him against his own brother Ptolemy VII the whole time. Ptolemy VII was of course eventually made king of Egypt by the Alexandrian's who did not trust Ptolemy VI any longer. 28 Then shall he return into his land with great riches; and his heart shall be against the holy covenant; and he shall do exploits, and return to his own land. Antiochus Epiphanes returned north it seems because of a rumor that he had died. That rumor seemingly caused a war to breakout in Jerusalem. Antiochus Epiphanes plundered the temple of God, killed many people, then journeyed north to Antioch. (his homeland) 29 At the time appointed he shall return, and come toward the south; but it shall not be as the former, or as the latter. 30 For the ships of Chittim shall come against him: therefore he shall be grieved, and return, and have indignation against the holy covenant: so shall he do; he shall even return, and have intelligence with them that forsake the holy covenant. Antiochus Epiphanes soon returned to Egypt with the intention of conquering Alexandria. The Egyptians however sent a message to Rome asking for help. Three Roman senators were sent by ship to inform Antiochus Epiphanes that he was not to invade Egypt and to demand that he retreat immediately. This of course made him angry and Antiochus seems to have taken it out on the Jewish believers. He killed many of them but allowed the Hellenistic Jews to live as long as they forsook the Holy Covenant !! He was indeed a vile man, seemingly a forerunner to the coming Anti-Christ/Beast in many of his mannerisms. Jason also seems to be a forerunner of the False Prophet. 31 And arms shall stand on his part, and they shall pollute the sanctuary of strength, and shall take away the daily sacrifice, and they shall place the abomination that maketh desolate. 32 And such as do wickedly against the covenant shall he corrupt by flatteries: but the people that do know their God shall be strong, and do exploits. Antiichus Epiphanes defiled the temple of God, stopped the daily sacrifices and even built a pagan alter unto Zeus and sacrificed pigs on it. This was an Abomination unto God, but its not the Abomination that Jesus and Daniel is speaking about of course. This desecrated the temple while it was there, but as we can see, Antiochus Epiphanes served Zeus, thus he can not be the Willful King of verse 36 as many think, because he served no gods. This of course created a schism so to speak amongst the Jewish peoples, which is what Antiochus was good at, divide and conquer tactics. In the end many Jews forsook their God and many refused to do so, but alas, they paid the price with their lives. This of course is a likeness unto the coming end time events in many ways. 33 And they that understand among the people shall instruct many: yet they shall fall by the sword, and by flame, by captivity, and by spoil, many days. 34 Now when they shall fall, they shall be holpen with a little help: but many shall cleave to them with flatteries. 35 And some of them of understanding shall fall, to try them, and to purge, and to make them white, even to the time of the end: because it is yet for a time appointed. TRANSITION PERIOD I think this three verse passage covers a 2000 some odd year stretch of time. It reaches from the Maccabean Revolt all the way unto the end times via verse 35 where it states even to the time of the end, which is a yet to be appointed time !! We see in verse 33 that many will understand but fall by the sword, flame, captivity, many days, this sounds like the early church Saints also, they understood, and thus Rome killed them in many violent ways, and when they fall they will be helped with a little help (Holy Spirit), but many will believe Satan's lies (flatteries). Verse 35 keeps up the 2000 year journey unto the end times, many will fall, be purged, made white (Jesus' blood) EVEN TO THE END TIMES !! Which is yet for a future time to be APPOINTED !! Then we see the Anti-Christ starting in verse 36. I think verse 33 is the Maccabean Revolt, and maybe the early Christian Church, then verses 34 and 35 transition via the whole 2000 year Church Age unto the end time !! The transition is a little convoluting and confuses many, some think Antiochus Epiphanes is the character that runs from Daniel 11:21 all the way to verse 45, some think its the Anti-Christ character that runs from verse 21 all the way to verse 45. Both sides seemingly can't see the transition that I see in verses 33-35. Its there, we just have to look a little deeper, it thus is the transition period between the two characters. SEGMENTED HISTORICAL PERSPECTIVES It seems we need to look at this prophecy here in segments. A historical segment that has already been fulfilled (Dan. 11:1-35) and an eschatological segment where the prophecy has yet to be fulfilled. Of course when Daniel received this prophetic uttering none of it had basically come to pass, now all of it has come to pass except for Dan. 11:36-45 and Dan. 12:1-12. So, it seems after verse 35 we can say that we fast forward so to speak into eschatology. Although you might say we are at the utter end of verse 35, for the most part when the Rapture hits we will be at verse 36 via the Tribulation period. We get the historical lessons via the prophecy of all the Grecian Kingdoms and the Syrian Wars which are detailed unto the nth degree, then Rome became the Fourth Beast and Greece seems to have faded into the background so to speak until the last King/Little Horn arrives, which comes from their lineage, we know this via Daniel chapter 8. We are told of this end time king starting in verse 36 and running unto the end of Daniel chapter 12. Notice in verse 34 and 35 above, it speaks of the time of the end as a yet to be appointed time and states that basically from Antiochus Epiphanes on, there will continue to be persecution and troubles and many who fall will be helped but others will heed the lies of the wicked one or his (flatteries). Some who understand will fall OR BE TRIED and PURGED !! Think of Paul, Peter and the Saints of the Church Age....to make them WHITE (pure), even to the END OF TIME !! Very, very exciting stuff !! 36 And the king shall do according to his will; and he shall exalt himself, and magnify himself above every god, and shall speak marvellous things against the God of gods, and shall prosper till the indignation be accomplished: for that that is determined shall be done. The king here has to be the end time Anti-Christ/Beast of Daniel 7:11. He is of course not called the king of the north or south here for a specific reason, the Sixth Syrian War ended the Syrian Wars. Rome came between Greece and Egypt putting a halt to Antiochus Epiphanes plans for good. Rome of course eventually conquered both Egypt and Greece thus becoming the Fourth Beast of the region over Israel. 37 Neither shall he regard the God of his fathers, nor the desire of women, nor regard any god: for he shall magnify himself above all. This verse insinuates he is an Atheist, and that he takes no heed of the thoughts of women, or it may mean he takes no heed unto an observance of the women's gods, what-soever that might entail. He listens not to women is the inference I take from this, their desires affect him on no wise. Like modern day Muslims, hes oblivious to their thoughts. He then magnifies himself or elevates himself to the equal of God. He of course demands to be worshiped as God. 38 But in his estate shall he honour the God of forces: and a god whom his fathers knew not shall he honour with gold, and silver, and with precious stones, and pleasant things. 39 Thus shall he do in the most strong holds with a strange god, whom he shall acknowledge and increase with glory: and he shall cause them to rule over many, and shall divide the land for gain. This European King who is born in Greece will be a man of war, he rules by brute force. I think the god his fathers knew not will be himself, he will of course place an image of himself in the temple of God. Thus he divides the land of Israel and the spoil thereof. Of course him being a Turk (Assyrian) its possible the god of his father could be Allah. 40 And at the time of the end shall the king of the south push at him: and the king of the north shall come against him like a whirlwind, with chariots, and with horsemen, and with many ships; and he shall enter into the countries, and shall overflow and pass over. The king of the south will come (push at) against the king of the north. This means the king being mentioned in verse 36 is the King of the North. I think the reason it was not mentioned there is Gabriel/God did not want to confuse us as to that king still being a part of the Syrian Wars, we have moved on unto the end times. Now that Gabriel has made that clear in verse 36 he needs to describe these kings as per who they are again. The king of the north was of the Syrian part of the Greek Empire which of course eventually became a part of the Roman Empire (Fourth Beast). The Egyptian part of the Greek kingdom was the king of the south. I think the king of the south here is more than just Egypt however, my thinking is the king of the south here is all of North Africa along with maybe Saudi Arabia, Turkey, Syria, Qatar,Yemen well you all get the point, its those nations who seemingly pushes at or comes against the king of the north or European Union and the Beast. 41 He shall enter also into the glorious land, and many countries shall be overthrown: but these shall escape out of his hand, even Edom, and Moab, and the chief of the children of Ammon. The Anti-Christ (King of the North here) enters into the Holy land, and many countries shall be overthrown. I think this infers he conquers Israel and the many nations he entered into peace/security agreements with, I think it will be the king of the south or all the Arab nations I mentioned above plus or minus some here or there no doubt. Once he conquers Israel and these other nations he becomes the Beast of the region course. But God says Edom, Moab and Ammon will escape out of his hands, these three are just east of Israel. So basically Jordan is not touched, seemingly this is where Israel flees unto and God protects them in this Wilderness for 1260 days in Petra. 42 He shall stretch forth his hand also upon the countries: and the land of Egypt shall not escape. 43 But he shall have power over the treasures of gold and of silver, and over all the precious things of Egypt: and the Libyans and the Ethiopians shall be at his steps. This seems to confirm my understanding above, he conquers all of North Africa and thus hes the Mediterranean Sea Region Beast like all the ones that came before him. (Egypt, Assyria, Babylon, Persia, Greece and Rome) He is the last of the Beasts, he will never pass his kingdom on to another thus he is known as the Beast himself, a man, the last Beast. 44 But tidings out of the east and out of the north shall trouble him: therefore he shall go forth with great fury to destroy, and utterly to make away many. We can not know for certain what this verse means, we can of course make an educated guess. The east tidings could mean Iran and Iraq or it could mean China. The north tidings could be Russia. Remember he is the king himself of the European Union thus its natural that if he invaded Israel and a bunch of oil rich nations he might very well get push back from China and Russia, both nations with great prestige and a vested interest in these oil rich nations themselves. 45 And he shall plant the tabernacles of his palace between the seas in the glorious holy mountain; yet he shall come to his end, and none shall help him. The Glorious holy mountain is most certainly Jerusalem. You have the Mediterranean Sea and the Dead Sea on either side of Jerusalem, so that could be what the verse is implying as per the "between the seas". I think we all know tabernacles means dwelling place, thus he will dwell in Jerusalem, seemingly in a grand palace. Daniel 12 King James Version (KJV) 12 And at that time shall Michael stand up, the great prince which standeth for the children of thy people: and there shall be a time of trouble, such as never was since there was a nation even to that same time: and at that time thy people shall be delivered, every one that shall be found written in the book. 2 And many of them that sleep in the dust of the earth shall awake, some to everlasting life, and some to shame and everlasting contempt. 3 And they that be wise shall shine as the brightness of the firmament; and they that turn many to righteousness as the stars for ever and ever. I think Micheal is the Angel God has chosen to protect Israel at the end times thus he stands up meaning he wields his authority/power at the appointed time. Some think he allows the Anti-Christ to come forth, but I see that as Jesus Christ opening of the Seals in Rev. ch. 6. At this time, at the end times, Daniel is basically told this will be when the resurrections of the Saints will happen. I do not think Daniel is told any specific time as per the resurrections, its just a general timing, "at the end". So at this great time of troubles, Micheal will deliver the Jewish peoples from their despair, I think he delivers them unto Petra in Jordan and protects them for 1260 days. Everyone who makes it to heaven however has to do it via faith !! 4 But thou, O Daniel, shut up the words, and seal the book, even to the time of the end: many shall run to and fro, and knowledge shall be increased. That was the end of the vision Gabriel gave to Daniel. It spanned from Daniels time on earth, both the Persian and Grecian Empires and all the way to the end of time and the resurrection of the Saints and even tells of a future eternity. Gabriel told Daniel of Babylon and coming Beast systems. It was not easily understood, especially before all of these events came to pass, even now many people still have problems understanding these complex prophesies of God. But Gabriel must have sensed Daniels confusion, thus he seemingly tries to explain it somewhat, thus Dan. ch. 12 is extended a wee bit for Daniel. 5 Then I Daniel looked, and, behold, there stood other two, the one on this side of the bank of the river, and the other on that side of the bank of the river. 6 And one said to the man clothed in linen, which was upon the waters of the river, How long shall it be to the end of these wonders? 7 And I heard the man clothed in linen, which was upon the waters of the river, when he held up his right hand and his left hand unto heaven, and sware by him that liveth for ever that it shall be for a time, times, and an half; and when he shall have accomplished to scatter the power of the holy people, all these things shall be finished. Daniel sees two more "people" besides Gabriel. One is a man clothed in linen on the water, this would seem to me to be Jesus Christ even though Daniel had no concept of exactly who he was it seems. Gabriel or another Angel then asks Jesus how long shall it be until the end of these wonders. I think he sensed Daniels confusion and tried to give him some further understanding. He then proceeds to swear by Him that lives forever, that when the holy peoples shall be scattered there will be a time, times and a half [time] and everything will have been accomplished, or these wonders will have ceased. Meaning that from the time Israel are scattered or flee Judea until all of these prophesies are fulfilled there will be 1260 days. (time, times and half time) In other words Jesus returns and buttons up all of these prophesies exactly 1260 days after the Israel people flee Judea (are scattered). Daniel then asks for more understanding because he had no clue what he was being told SEE BELOW: 8 And I heard, but I understood not: then said I, O my Lord, what shall be the end of these things? 9 And he said, Go thy way, Daniel: for the words are closed up and sealed till the time of the end. 10 Many shall be purified, and made white, and tried; but the wicked shall do wickedly: and none of the wicked shall understand; but the wise shall understand. Daniel begs for more clarity, but Gabriel tells him to go his way, he basically tells him it will take future events coming to pass in order for people to understand these prophetic uttering's. At the time of the end these prophesies will start to become clearer via our understandings of history and via the word of God. He then tells Daniel many shall be purified and made white (Jesus' blood) and tried, but the wicked will still do wickedness and will never understand. 11 And from the time that the daily sacrifice shall be taken away, and the abomination that maketh desolate set up, there shall be a thousand two hundred and ninety days. This is of course the end time Abomination of Desolation spoken of by Jesus in Matthew 24 and Daniel here in this book of Daniel in several places. This is being spoken of as an event that happens 1290 days from the end of these wonders or prophesies. So just like its 1260 days from the time the Jews power is scattered, thus they are conquered, likewise its 1290 days from the time the Abomination of Desolation is set up until Jesus' second coming ends all of these wonders Daniel was being shown. The Abomination of Desolation has to come before the Jews flee Judea, thus the 1290 event must come before the 1260 event. Thus the 1335 event would have to come before both the 1260 and the 1290 events. Its just mathematical logistics. 12 Blessed is he that waiteth, and cometh to the thousand three hundred and five and thirty days. 13 But go thou thy way till the end be: for thou shalt rest, and stand in thy lot at the end of the days. Gabriel is telling Daniel things he knows he will never understand in his lifetime. But Gabriel understands that Israel will reject Jesus the Messiah, he understands they will be dispersed all over the world and that God will turn His back on Israel for almost 2000 years. He understands that even when God starts blessing Israel again (1948) they still do not believe in God/Jesus as their Messiah. Then Gabriel seemingly tells Daniel blessed is he that comes to the 1335 Event. Meaning as per my understanding, that is the day Israel starts turning back unto God and accepts their Messiah Jesus Christ. (1335 days before Jesus' second coming). This is why they know to flee Judea when they see the Abomination of Desolation, they have to have already repented or else they would not follow Jesus' instructions would they? This is why they know to flee to Petra 1/3 are now Messianic Jews. This is why they understand who the Anti-Christ is when they see the events unfolding, remember in Matthew 24, Jesus says Behold, I have told you before[hand]. Israel have repented before the Day of the Lord comes just like Malachi 4:5-6 says they will do. God sends Elijah to turn Israel back unto God before the Great a Dreadful Day of the Lord comes. The Day of the Lord (Gods Wrath) starts at the 1260 Event. Then Daniel is told he will stand with the Saints at the end. How I see the 1260, 1290 and 1335 Events. 1.) The 1335 Event is 1335 Days from the time Israel repents until Jesus' Second Coming, this is when the Two-witnesses show up in Jerusalem. 2.) The 1290 Event is 1290 Days from the Abomination of Desolation is set-up until Jesus' Second Coming, the Jews Flee at this point, not at the 1260 Event. 3.) The 1260 Event is 1260 Days from the time Israel is Conquered or their power is Scattered until Jesus' Second Coming. Israel are given a 30 day period to Flee Judea, when the Anti-Christ conquers Jerusalem it will be to late. They must leave when they see the AoD set up in the Temple of God. This is the False Prophets doings, but the Anti-Christ will be released 30 days later.
  9. Revelation Man

    AMERICA: NEW ROME & BABYLON THE GREAT ("Come out of her, My people...")

    The Bible is a story book about Israel, Islam has never ruled over the Nation Israel. NEVER !! I truly just do not get any thought process that doesn't recognize the Beasts are ALWAYS IN JUXTAPOSITION unto Israel, we had Israel as Dead Men's Bones unto God for nigh 2000 years, thus there can have been NO BEASTS from Rome until the Anti-Christ Conquers Jerusalem. Why is that so hard to figure out? I personally think its because men have ideas, and they hate to ever be wrong, its part of human nature and especially men who are "hyper competitive" by nature, believe me, I have seen card games turn brother against brother (real brothers) for years, its silly but it happens. I love being wrong, that means I had to see the light and be corrected by God, it means you have the ability to be right by learning from your mistakes, not everyone have this gene in them, I used to be like that for years, then one day I sat back and asked God why Christendom has 200 different understandings of Babylon and other understandings where the Church opposes each other, and the Holy Spirit was like "its Men's Traditions" that rule the day, the Church looks to men's ideas too often instead of reading the word and asking God. The Pharisees had the exact same problem. I am not just guessing when I tell you Islam has nothing to do with any of the Seven Beasts, the last Beast is A MAN, and he comes out of Europe via Greece. I used to guess a lot, the Holy Spirit gave me that blog, the Holy Spirit gave me my Babylon blog, I was wrong on what THAT CITY was in my blog, I said it was Rome after studying on Babylon for Months, within 2 Weeks the Holy Spirit was like, "Ron, you are Wrong, its not Rome". So I had to change my blog and rewrite it, and tell everyone I was wrong, THAT'S OK !! The moment I understood that Islam would be destroyed by the Anti-Christ was long after I understood where the Anti-Christ was from, Greece/E.U. It was when the Holy Spirit gave me my Babylon, The Harlot, and Seven Headed Beast understanding. When I understood Babylon is Satan's Dark Kingdom on earth, and he rules the Nations as Babylon per the way God sees it, AND THEN I understood the Harlot who rode the [government] Beasts back was ALL FALSE RELIGION of all time, and that she gets DESTROYED by the Kings in league with the Best, only then did I understand that the Beast AND his Kings Destroy Islam and ALL FALSE RELIGIONS, its a Judgment from God, but he uses the DESIRES of their own hearts to do His will: SEE BELOW Rev. 17:16 And the ten horns which thou sawest upon the beast, these shall hate the whore, and shall make her desolate and naked, and shall eat her flesh, and burn her with fire. 17 For God hath put in their hearts to fulfil his will, and to agree, and give their kingdom unto the beast, until the words of God shall be fulfilled. Why do you think there is a False Prophet? Because they are going to have a One World Religion where the BEAST is going to be Worshiped as the ONLY GOD !! There is no place for Islam or any other Religion, the Christian Church has been Raptured by now, the REMNANT CHURCH (Rev. 12:17) are being killed and the Jews are being chased into the Wilderness or Killed also. No RELIGIONS will be allowed !! I don't know how else to tell you guys this, it is what it is. I am putting the Scriptures together where the 1000's of pieces of the puzzle fit. Its just something I have been gifted with, I was called to Prophecy in 1986. I was shown then the Anti-Christ is in the world via a vision, I as a young Christian was clueless what it meant, so I poo pooed it. You don't poo poo God, he sent me anther vision, this time I was in a HUGE AUDITORIUM, ad Jimmy Swaggart was preaching and their was MAYBE 10 People in there, within like 2 Weeks Jimmy Swaggart fell from Grace so to speak, basically God was showing me the future and I was like OH MY, this means the Anti-Christ or.............."Man of Sin is here" as I was told was and is indeed in the world. It comes 2000 years later, its a different Kingdom brother. God is tricky on purpose with these riddles, just like the Honey in the Lion riddle. God doesn't think like we do. We gt a picture of how God sees Israel's whole life Span: From Egypt to Rome............DEAD MEN'S BONES..........from 1948 on. God doesn't recognize the Dead Men's Bone Era of Israel, they were as DEAD unto him, why do you think He gave Ezekiel the Prophecy to begin with? Th Last kingdom is A MAN, thus the BEAST is cast into hell. Its my job to know brother. Its like a puzzle, step back, fit it all together, then ponder if it looks correct, the Holy Spirit will always tell us if we wait on Him, to many people get out in front of the Holy Spirits guidance system. As I explained, I understand these things by looking at multiple scriptures, not one, that is not the way I roll. There can be NO BEAST over Israel after Rome, she is as DEAD unto God. I can't relay it any plainer than that. Israel is THE PEOPLE. Since the Holy Spirit guides us, 99.5 percent of the time the Consensus is correct. Rome is a fact, don't really take any arguments serious of they say o isn't. Its that set in stone to m brother. I have to run for awhile, I have an excellent exegesis on chapters 11 and 12 (if I do say so myself) and when I get back I WILL PROBABLY POST THEM. Its about the King of the North and he King of the South over and over, not just the Seleucids. This is misunderstood by many. He arises from Greece as ONLY Greece is in the E.U., why discount Dan. 7 ? God Bless, be back shortly.
  10. Revelation Man

    Pope as AntiChrist?

    Some of the Hierarchy mat very well be heretical, but they are not AGAINST Christ, they preach and teach Jesus is the Savior of mankind, just because you have certain higher-ups who are weird doesn't mean they are teaching against Christ Jesus' ways. To be a bad example, doesn't mean you teach AGAINST Christ, you just live against Christ's ways. Many in Protestant Churches do that to, many in America get the monies from the offering plates then have affairs etc. etc. But if he teaches Christ Crucified, hes not teaching AGAINST Christ. The Church is Departed before the Anti-Christ comes forth. The men left in this Wicked World will be 1. Wicked people who hate God and love THE WORLD. 2. People who repented and became Christians via the Gentile World after the Rapture and are thus the Beheaded under the Alter at Sea #5. 3. The Jews who Flee unto Petra, who repented. The False Prophet sets up an Image of the Beast in the Temple of God. This verse has absolutely nothing to do with the RCC changing anything, the Lords Day is Sunday, we chose to go to Church on this day, but all 7 Days of each week are Holy because the Holy Spirit lives in us, thus we are sanctified and separated unto Christ 24/7/365. Our REST is in Jesus Christ, not in some DAY OF THE WEEK. We chose a day to celebrate Jesus' birth, who cares what day its on? We know when Passover is every year, that's pretty simple. We are NOT UNDER LAWS, that is a fairly basic concept also. Read Galatians. The Anti-Christ seeks to Change TIMES...........He will do away with the Calendar !! It started ANNO DOMINI which means in the Day of or Lord [Jesus]. Thus he does away with the calendar, he starts a brand new calendar, in the day of THE BEAST, Year One !! The Anti-Christ will seek to change LAWS..........Of course he will, he will mandate no+ Worshiping of Jesus Christ in the Temple of God nor ANY OTHER Gods in any places throughout the Whole World, every man woman and child will be required to Worship this Man as the ONLY GOD or die. Another law will be that no man can Buy, Sell or Trade without the Mark of the Beast. This has nothing to do with Marriage nor Homosexuality like many assume, this means he will not ACKNOWLEDGE what women in General seem to care, most men in this modern world are sensitive to these maters, he will not care what Women think about any and all ISSUES of the Day.
  11. Revelation Man

    Pope as AntiChrist?

    Pretty good understanding there my friend. Most get their understanding as per the coming Anti-Christ would be "accepted" by the Jews from Jesus' quote in John 5:43 I am come in my Father's name, and ye receive me not: if another shall come in his own name, him ye will receive. Of course Jesus is speaking to certain Pharisees who rejected him and then try to "force" a Messiah onto the scene just before the 70 AD conflict with Rome. These leaders rightly understood Rome was the Fourth Beast and they expected the Messiah thus to show up and to save them, they had no idea that wouldn't happen for another 2000 years, that there would be a Church Age and that Israel had to be as Dead Men's Bones for nigh 2000 years. So, I see many guys take this one scripture and build a whole theological by-way unto itself, they say this means Israel accepts the Anti-Christ as their King, Leader or "Messiah", when the scriptures say no such thing. The Scriptures clearly say Israel repent BEFORE the COMING of the Great and Dreadful Day of the Lord. Thus Israel accepts Jesus as their Messiah just like Zechariah 12:10 and 13:1 says Before the Day or the Lord (Midway Point or 1260 Event), the Anti-Christ shows up at Zechariah 14:1-2 and Jesus takes over at Zechariah 14:3-4. Malachi 4:5 Behold, I will send you Elijah the prophet before the coming of the great and dreadful day of the Lord: 6 And he shall turn the heart of the fathers to the children, and the heart of the children to their fathers, lest I come and smite the earth with a curse. So since the Peace lasts for 1260 Days and the Two-Witnesses show up BEFORE the Day of the Lord which starts at the 1260 Event, why would Israel ever be understood as per accepting this coming Anti-Christ in the first place? ANSWER: Because its a bad understanding., mostly via this one verse, John 5:43. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ You are also correct, the "AGREEMENTS" (Covenant) are already in place with MANY Nations, it is called the European Neighborhood Policy The Seven Year Peace deal will not be worked out in the future, its already amidst us. Israel and the European Union entered into a treaties for Seven Years from 2007-2013 and then another treaties was signed in 2014 and runs through 2020. Those of course are seven year treaties, agreements, or covenants. And to top that its with "MANY" (as in Nations). European Neighborhood Policy The European Union's European Neighborhood Policy(ENP) aims at bringing the EU and its neighbors closer, to their mutual benefit and interest. It was launched in 2004 to help the EU support and foster stability, security and prosperity in its closest neighborhood. The European Neighborhood Policy governs the EU's relations with 16 of the its closest Eastern and Southern Neighbors. To the South: Algeria, Egypt, Israel, Jordan, Lebanon, Libya, Morocco, Palestine*, Syria** and Tunisia, and to the East: Armenia, Azerbaijan, Belarus, Georgia, the Republic of Moldova and Ukraine. Russia takes part in Cross-Border Cooperation activities under the ENP, but is not part of the ENP as such. Notice the Roman Empire [Beast] Map, then notice the Map of the European Neighborhood Policy (MUST Google the Maps), is that the Old Roman Empire Beast or what? Then think of Daniel 11:40-43, who are the MANY the Beast Conquers? All of North Africa are mentioned and the Glorious land (Israel), but Edom (Jordan) will not be Conquered. I think the Agreements are in place already like you do. The Old Roman Empire and the E.U. and these North African nations plus Israel, Lebanon etc. etc are the exact same footprint on a map. The Beast only tries to appear "Messianic" to the Jews who Flee Judea unto Petra, he will kill the ones who do not Flee (2/3 of the Jews) but the 1/3 who accept Jesus and heed his Matthew 24 instructions to Flee Judea when they see the Abomination of Desolation (the 1290 Event), just before the coming Anti-Christ is Released by Jesus at the 1260 Event, he kills. The Two-Witnesses show up at the 1335 Event. Each EVENT is the Number of days left until Jesus shows up to END THESE WONDERS. The 1335 Event is the Two-witnesses showing up BEFORE the Great and dreadful day of the Lord. Blessed is he that comes unto the 1335. The Two-witnesses coming of course is a blessing. The 1290 Event is the Abomination of Desolation, the False Prophet places an Image of the Beast in the Temple of God. The 1260 Event is the Middle of the Week, its the First Seal being opened, its the beginning of the Day of the Lord (Gods Wrath). The Two witnesses show up 75 Days before the Beast comes to power via SCATTERING the Holy peoples (Daniel 12) and then the Two-witnesses die at the 2nd woe, that therefore MUST BE 75 days before the Beast dies at the 7th Vial because both are in their Prophesied Roles for 1260 days, thus it has to match up exactly, thus if the Two-witnesses come first, they must die first, the exact same number of days in each instance. Hes going to start off in a Blitzkrieg fashion, killing and murdering, no one is going to accept him as the Messiah, they will try to trick the 1/3 who Flee unto Petra, but Jesus has already told them where to look for him via his coming in the Eastern Skies for all to see. So they (ELECT) will not nor can be deceived.
  12. Revelation Man

    Pope as AntiChrist?

    Jason tried to Hellenize the Jews, this man is The False Prophet because he tries to lead the Jews astray. I have never thought the Jews accept the Anti-Christ, the 2/3 who do not Flee he kills, the 1/3 who flee of course have accepted Jesus as their Messiah, thus they heed his words to Flee Judea. We know they do not accept the False Prophet (nor his ideas) if they reject the Anti-Christ.
  13. Revelation Man

    Pope as AntiChrist?

    The Sea represents the Gentile Nations............the earth (Land) represents Israel. I never listen to other religions, Satan is always the head of these entities, that would be like me going to a seance, its just not even a consideration for me, others do, its not my bag, it leads to half truths. After the Church is Raptured, who would the False Prophet be? What does the False Prophet do via Matthew 24? He tries to deceive the Jews in the Wilderness/Petra to come out of their "Safe Zone". But Jesus warns them, I will not be in the Desert or Secret Chambers, but instead I will be coming in the Eastern Skies for all to see. Hes in cahoots with the Anti-Christ and he is the one that Places the Image of the Beast in the Temple of God.
  14. Revelation Man

    Pope as AntiChrist?

    That is correct, hes a Gentile King like the other 6 were. Not a Religious Leader. The Church will be Raptued, if the Pope is still on earth that pretty much shows hes a Failure number one, secondly, the False Prophet has to be a Jew.
  15. Revelation Man

    Pope as AntiChrist?

    The Beasts in Rev. 12, 13 and 17 are all Different entities having to do with the same Figurative Seven Headed Beast meaning with IMHO, Egypt, Assyria, Babylon, Persia, Greece, Rome and the Anti-Christ. The First in Rev. 12 is Satan, the Dragon. The Second in Rev. 13 is the Last Beast Head, the Anti-Christ thus hes also a part of the Seven Headed Figurative Beast. The Third is the Scarlet Colored Beast in Rev. 17, he is Apollyon, he is now in the Bottomless Pit he was a "Principality in High Places" over ALL Six of the other Beast Heads and he will be over the 7th also thus hes the 8th but of the 7. One more clue, Apollyon is also known as...........Drum roll........................The Prince if Persia of Daniel chapter 10. Hes OF THE SEVEN.........Get it? He had to be the Prince of Persia who resisted Micheal's Order to allow Alexander the Great and Grecia to defeat Persia. He thus became the "Prince over Grecia" also (hes of the 7). He was thus the "Prince of Rome" (hes of the 7). He was over Egypt, Assyria and Babylon likewise and will be over the Anti-Christ Beast Kingdom in the End Times also, but just as he was over or OF THOSE Kingdoms, he will not be a "Physical Entity" just as Satan in not a Physical Entity, but a Spiritual Entity. There are only Seven Beast Heads, not 8, the 8th is OVER THE SEVEN, he was the Prince of Persia and so on and so on. Satan placed Apollyon over the Mediterranean Sea Region, there are Demonic Entities over New York, London, South Africa etc. etc. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- As per the Anti-Christ and False Prophet, we are given the EXACT FORERUNNERS via Daniel chapter 11. The Anti-Christ had a forerunner in Antiochus Epiphanes he will LIKEWISE be a Greek who comes to power in the European Union, one caveat is he will by a Turk (Assyrian) as Isaiah 10 says. The False Prophet also had a Forerunner, IMHO, in the same capacity with the FORERUNNER A.C. of that time. He will be a Jew gone Rogue just like Jason was: Jason (Hebrew: Yason, יאסון) of the Oniad family, brother to Onias III, was a High Priest in the Temple in Jerusalem. Josephus records that his name, before he hellenised it, was originally Jesus (Hebrew יֵשׁוּעַ Yēshua`).[1] Jason became high priest in 175 BCE after the accession of Antiochus Epiphanes to the throne of the Seleucid Empire. In an ongoing dispute between the current High Priest, Onias III, and Simon the Benjamite, Jason offered to pay Antiochus in order to be confirmed as the new High Priest in Jerusalem. Antiochus accepted the offer and further allowed Jason to build a gymnasium in Jerusalem and create a Greek-style Polis named after the king, Antioch.[2] With the creation of Antioch, Jason ABANDONED THE ORDINANCES given under Antiochus III, which defined the polity of the Judeans according to the Torah. Onias III (Hebrew: חוֹנִיּוֹ‎ Ḥōniyyō), son of Simon II, was High Priest during the Second Temple period of Judaism. He is described in scriptures as a pious man who opposed the Hellenization of Judea.[1] He was succeeded by his brother Jason in 175 BCE. So basically Jason bribed Antiochus to become the High Priest of Israel, thus his own brother Onias III (a pious man) was killed by Antiochus and Jason whose real name was Yeshua (Jesus) not only changed his name to a Hellenized version (Jason) but tried to Hellenize Jerusalem/Israel. Can anyone say FALSE PROPHET !! I think both FORERUNNERS came at the same time, most people get Antiochus Epiphanes, I think everyone misses Jason.
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