Isaiah and the day of the Lord.

[farouk]

47 minutes ago, Shilohsfoal said:

So you believe saints who suffer tribulation such as Paul, Peter and John can not be members of the church?

There is a distinction between the tribulation principle (John 16.33) and the unique period known as the Great Tribulation: Matthew 24.21.

[Mr. M]

On 5/22/2023 at 6:33 PM, rdclmn72 said:

There are three different references in Isaiah to the day of the Lord;

Isaiah 2:

12 For the day of the Lord of hosts shall be upon every one that is proud and lofty,

and upon every one that is lifted up; and he shall be brought low:

13 And upon all the cedars of Lebanon, that are high and lifted up, and upon all the oaks of Bashan,

14 And upon all the high mountains, and upon all the hills that are lifted up,

15 And upon every high tower, and upon every fenced wall,

16 And upon all the ships of Tarshish, and upon all pleasant pictures.

17 And the loftiness of man shall be bowed down, and the haughtiness of men shall be made low:

and the Lord alone shall be exalted in that day.

18 And the idols he shall utterly abolish.

19 And they shall go into the holes of the rocks,

and into the caves of the earth, for fear of the Lord,

and for the glory of his majesty, when he ariseth to shake terribly the earth.

20 In that day a man shall cast his idols of silver, and his idols of gold,

which they made each one for himself to worship, to the moles and to the bats;

21 To go into the clefts of the rocks, and into the tops of the ragged rocks,

for fear of the Lord, and for the glory of his majesty,

when he ariseth to shake terribly the earth.

[Mr. M]

1 minute ago, Mr. M said:

19 And they shall go into the holes of the rocks,

and into the caves of the earth, for fear of the Lord,

and for the glory of his majesty, when he ariseth to shake terribly the earth.

Revelation 6:

12 I looked when He opened the sixth seal, and behold, there was a great earthquake;

and the sun became black as sackcloth of hair, and the moon became like blood. 

13 And the stars of heaven fell to the earth, as a fig tree drops its late figs

when it is shaken by a mighty wind. 

14 Then the sky receded as a scroll when it is rolled up, and every mountain

and island was moved out of its place.

15 And the kings of the earth, the great men, the rich men, the commanders,

the mighty men, every slave and every free man, hid themselves in the caves

and in the rocks of the mountains, 

16 and said to the mountains and rocks, Fall on us and hide us from the face of Him

who sits on the throne and from the wrath of the Lamb! 

17 For the great day of His wrath has come, and who is able to stand?

[Mr. M]

On 5/22/2023 at 6:33 PM, rdclmn72 said:

There is a reference to a year of recompences, the acceptable year of the Lord, and the year of my redeemed.

I'm curious about what else is out there.

The Time of Jacob's trouble is often mentioned with this topic:

Jeremiah 30:5 For thus saith the Lord; We have heard a voice of trembling, of fear, and not of peace.

6 Ask ye now, and see whether a man doth travail with child? wherefore do I see every man with his hands on his loins, as a woman in travail, and all faces are turned into paleness?

7 Alas! for that day is great, so that none is like it: it is even the time of Jacob's trouble, but he shall be saved out of it.

8 For it shall come to pass in that day, saith the Lord of hosts, that I will break his yoke from off thy neck, and will burst thy bonds, and strangers shall no more serve themselves of him:

9 But they shall serve the Lord their God, and David their king, whom I will raise up unto them.

10 Therefore fear thou not, O my servant Jacob, saith the Lord; neither be dismayed, O Israel: for, lo, I will save thee from afar, and thy seed from the land of their captivity; and Jacob shall return, and shall be in rest, and be quiet, and none shall make him afraid.

11 For I am with thee, saith the Lord, to save thee: though I make a full end of all nations whither I have scattered thee, yet I will not make a full end of thee: but I will correct thee in measure, and will not leave thee altogether unpunished.

And then there is Joel:

1:15 Alas for the day!
For the day of the Lord is at hand;
It shall come as destruction from the Almighty.

2:1 Blow the trumpet in Zion,
And sound an alarm in My holy mountain!
Let all the inhabitants of the land tremble;
For the day of the Lord is coming,
For it is at hand:

[farouk]

23 minutes ago, Mr. M said:

Isaiah 2:

12 For the day of the Lord of hosts shall be upon every one that is proud and lofty,

and upon every one that is lifted up; and he shall be brought low:

13 And upon all the cedars of Lebanon, that are high and lifted up, and upon all the oaks of Bashan,

14 And upon all the high mountains, and upon all the hills that are lifted up,

15 And upon every high tower, and upon every fenced wall,

16 And upon all the ships of Tarshish, and upon all pleasant pictures.

17 And the loftiness of man shall be bowed down, and the haughtiness of men shall be made low:

and the Lord alone shall be exalted in that day.

18 And the idols he shall utterly abolish.

19 And they shall go into the holes of the rocks,

and into the caves of the earth, for fear of the Lord,

and for the glory of his majesty, when he ariseth to shake terribly the earth.

20 In that day a man shall cast his idols of silver, and his idols of gold,

which they made each one for himself to worship, to the moles and to the bats;

21 To go into the clefts of the rocks, and into the tops of the ragged rocks,

for fear of the Lord, and for the glory of his majesty,

when he ariseth to shake terribly the earth.

What a transformation and reversal in this prophecy!

[Mr. M]

On 5/22/2023 at 6:33 PM, rdclmn72 said:

There is a reference to a year of recompences

Obadiah 1:15 For the day of the Lord is near upon all the heathen:

as thou hast done, it shall be done unto thee:

thy reward shall return upon thine own head.

[Mr. M]

3 minutes ago, farouk said:

What a transformation and reversal in this prophecy!

Matthew 23:11 But he who is greatest among you shall be your servant. 

12 And whoever exalts himself will be humbled,

and he who humbles himself will be exalted.

[farouk]

1 minute ago, Mr. M said:

Matthew 23:11 But he who is greatest among you shall be your servant. 

12 And whoever exalts himself will be humbled,

and he who humbles himself will be exalted.

I was thinking of this passage also.

And indeed: Philippians 2: 'He...humbled Himself, and became obedient unto death, even the death of the cross. Wherefore God also hath highly exalted him, and given Him a name which is above every name.....'

[Mr. M]

On 5/22/2023 at 6:33 PM, rdclmn72 said:

the day of the Lord;

The day of the Lord, and the time of darkness!

Amos 5:

18 Woe unto you that desire the day of the Lord! to what end is it for you?

the day of the Lord is darkness, and not light.

19 As if a man did flee from a lion, and a bear met him;

or went into the house, and leaned his hand on the wall,

and a serpent bit him.

20 Shall not the day of the Lord be darkness, and not light?

even very dark, and no brightness in it?

Which leads back to Isaiah:

60:1 Arise, shine;
For your light has come!
And the glory of the Lord is risen upon you.
2 For behold, the darkness shall cover the earth,
And deep darkness the people;
But the Lord will arise over you,
And His glory will be seen upon you.
3 The Gentiles shall come to your light,
And kings to the brightness of your rising.

[Mr. M]

On 5/22/2023 at 6:33 PM, rdclmn72 said:

There are three references to the day of vengeance.

There is a reference to a year of recompences, the acceptable year of the Lord, and the year of my redeemed.

I'm curious about what else is out there.

Zephaniah uses a unique phrase "the voice of the day of the Lord".

1:14 The great day of the Lord is near, it is near, and hasteth greatly,

even the voice of the day of the Lord: the mighty man shall cry there bitterly.

15 That day is a day of wrath, a day of trouble and distress, a day of wasteness

and desolation, a day of darkness and gloominess, a day of clouds and thick darkness,

16 A day of the trumpet and alarm against the fenced cities, and against the high towers.

17 And I will bring distress upon men, that they shall walk like blind men,

because they have sinned against the Lord: and their blood shall be poured out as dust,

and their flesh as the dung.

18 Neither their silver nor their gold shall be able to deliver them

in the day of the Lord's wrath; but the whole land shall be devoured by the fire of his jealousy:

for he shall make even a speedy riddance of all them that dwell in the land.