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Cool your jets, weary Christian, Jew or Hindu adherent! The Islam of TODAY is a religion of violence and murder. Why all the romping round Robin Hood's Barn on the issues raised rather than dealing honestly with the very pertinent points enunciated? Both the Quran and the Hadith teach execution for opponents of Muhammad's seventh-century viewpoint. After the conquering of Mecca, OFFENSIVE warfare became the order of the Islamic day. How many declarations would you like to hear?

Sura 9:1-6; Sura 9:11,12,14,15; Sura 9:16; Sura 9:19-32; Sura 9:25,26; Sura 9:28; Sura 9:29-31; Sura 9:123; etc, etc, on into the darkened Arabia wilderness night. There are none so blind as.......

Why do you remain immune from CURRENT Muslim revolutions throughout the entire globe on behalf of Muhammad of Yathrib? Precisely WHO are kidnapping, pillaging & murdering in Mindanao, Northern Nigeria, Somalia, The Sudan, Iran, etc, at this very moment - HINDUS? SIKHS? ATHEISTS? DONALD DUCK? Take your blinkers off for a season. Your refusal to see Islam "on the march" with violence and murder as watchwords is akin to someone climbing trees to get to the moon.

You also keep a blind eye to the political & social FACT that Muhammad's Islam underscores "Peace" and "tolerance" when in a MINORITY position in any country, but preaches & PRACTICES warfare & intolerance when in a MAJORITY position. Why do you prefer your own whim & nostrum to actual Islamic actions? Must the farce continue?

You need to review both the Quran and the Hadith closely. You'll discover four specific stages to Islamic teaching. STAGE 1 (in Mecca) - no retaliation. STAGE 2 - First instruction in Medina - defensive warfare permitted. STAGE 3 - Revised instructions in Medina - defensive fighting commanded. STAGE 4 - After conquering Mecca - OFFENSIVE WARFARE THE ORDER OF THE DAY.....commanded to kill "pagans" & humble Christians & Jews. Not a very pretty picture. Won't somebody rise and tell?

Practically ALL Islamic nations were the result of violent WARFARE. In fact, Islam was prevented from capturing Europe itself due to military defensive preparedness. Ever heard of Charles Martel of France? Islam certainly has! Islam & the sword go together like a horse and bridle.

Please deal with political & historical FACTS raised as well as Islamic CURRENT practices worldwide. Asalam-alay-kum.

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Ho boy......I will say one thing about you, Arthur, you're really good at spouting the rhetoric :wacko::t2::wacko:

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It's as clear as the nose on the face of Pinocchio that a knowledge of the English language is a very good thing, yes? I'll take Shakespeare for 1000, Gridley.

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Christians besieged in Pakistan

By Julia Duin

Published June 28, 2003

The photos from Pakistan were anything but travel brochure material.

One showed a 9-year-old girl with dark eyes, large black burns on her legs and a heavily bandaged right arm.

Another showed a 14-year-old girl with a face partly melted away like candle wax. The right side was a mass of charred skin after an assailant threw acid into her eyes.

Their attackers said the girls' injuries are payback for the American invasion of Iraq. Americans may not have seen much retaliation on their own soil because, several human rights groups say, Christians in Pakistan are taking the brunt of it.

The 9-year-old, Razia Masih, was beaten and raped on April 26 in the town of Faisalabad, near Lahore, ending up in the hospital with multiple burns, a lacerated left eye, a broken right arm and rope marks around her hands and mouth.

"She was working as a maid in a Muslim house," said Shabazz Bhatti, chairman of the All Pakistan Minorities Alliance.

"When the Iraq war happened, it was on the TV," he said. "The family [that she worked for] would call her into the TV room and start torturing her. Her skin was burned by the irons, her body wounded by a cricket bat and a medical report showed 15 wounds on her body. She was told by them, 'You are Christian and infidel, and we will take revenge on you for the killings of Iraqi children.'

"The case has been registered [with police], but the culprits have not been arrested. Meanwhile, the girl's family has fled elsewhere, just to save their lives. The government authorities are not giving them protection."

According to International Christian Concern (ICC), a religious-persecution watchdog group, the girl's family had unsuccessfully tried to get her out of her employers' home several times. After beating and burning her for a final time, the family sent her home to die.

The All Pakistan Minorities Alliance, representing Christian, Hindu, Sikh, Balmeek, Bheel, Maingwal, Zoarastrian, Bahai and Kelash communities, has compiled a "catalogue of terror" on attacks against female Christians, beginning with the May 3, 2000, gang rape of eight Christian girls by militant Muslims near Lahore.

A series of either gang rapes or acid-in-the-face attacks happened in July 2000, twice in 2001, twice in 2002 and three times so far in 2003.

On March 31, Natasha Emmanuel, 10, from a town near Rawalpindi, was raped by a Muslim neighbor linked with extremist Islamic organizations. The girl ended up in a hospital intensive-care unit for three days, the ICC says.

"Christians in Pakistan are increasingly vulnerable to religiously motivated hate crimes, and Christian girls and women seem to be specially targeted," said Stuart Windsor, director of Christian Solidarity Worldwide in London. "We are outraged by the unwillingness of the police to investigate the complaints as this only emboldens extremists to continue to victimize Christians and other non-Muslims."

Fearing such reprisals, the U.S. Commission on Religious Freedom wrote Secretary of State Colin L. Powell on March 19, asking him to remind foreign governments of their responsibility to protect religious minorities.

"The commission is concerned that extremists have tried to portray military action against Iraq as part of an alleged U.S. attack on Islam," they wrote, "and that retribution will be sought against Christians, Jews and others throughout the Islamic world ...."

The commission also asked President Bush to bring up the matter with Pakistani President Pervez Musharraf during their meeting Tuesday at Camp David, Md.

"Since the U.S. military action began in Afghanistan," they wrote last week, "Christian institutions in Pakistan repeatedly have been targeted by religious extremists, resulting in over 50 deaths."

But neither President Bush or Gen. Musharraf mentioned religious minorities at a Tuesday press conference to announce a $3 billion U.S. military and economic aid package for Pakistan.

"The Bush administration has with this package applauded Pakistan for carrying out egregious human rights abuses and religious-freedom violations," said Joseph Grieboski, president of the Institute on Religion and Public Policy.

"President Bush told the world that the United States will turn a blind eye to universal values and fundamental freedoms in exchange for political expediency and convenience."

There are only about 3 million Christians among Pakistan's 140 million citizens.

Gen. Musharraf said Wednesday he knew nothing of the recent attacks on Christian women and denied there is an ongoing problem.

"All the people involved in attacks have been eliminated or put behind bars," he said at a meeting sponsored by the U.S. Institute of Peace. "There has not been an attack in the last year against a Christian minority."

Mr. Grieboski said Gen. Musharraf was either uninformed or lying.

"He gives a speech about Islam being a moderate religion every time he panders to the West," Mr. Grieboski said. "But there's an ongoing targeting of Christians in general, with women being raped and men beaten and arrested. The government has yet to do anything to protect the rights of minority religious believers, whether they be Christian, Ahmadi Muslim, Hindu or any other faith."

The plight of Christian women is entangled with the politics of rape in Pakistan, which has engaged human rights and women's groups for years. There is no category for rape in Pakistani law; only for "zina," which is either adultery or fornication. Unless four male Muslim witnesses can be found to back the woman's story or if the attacker denies the charges, the woman is blamed and usually jailed on charges of illicit sex.

According to the Human Rights Commission of Pakistan, a woman in that country is raped every six hours and another is gang-raped every fourth day. Since women often do not report rape in the country, the actual numbers are likely to be far higher.

Since September 11, Pakistan's government has stepped up its security measures for Christians, providing extra armed guards for churches and other Christian buildings after a series of bomb and grenade attacks on churches, foreign tourists and western embassies killed 40 persons and injured dozens more. On Sept. 29, 2002, two gunmen broke into the offices of a Christian charity in Karachi, killing seven Christians and seriously wounding two others. On Christmas Day 2002, three girls were killed and 17 persons injured when masked terrorists threw hand grenades into their Presbyterian church in Punjab province.

Christians are being accused of transgressing Pakistan's blasphemy law, where to criticize the Prophet Muhammed by word, deed or imputation is a capital crime. However, Gen. Musharraf said the law has not targeted Christians in particular.

"Under this blasphemy law, more Muslims have been acted against than non-Muslims," he said. "Secondly, no capital punishment at all till now has been given on the basis of blasphemy."

But there are long jail sentences on trumped-up charges. One Christian, Aslam Masih, imprisoned since 1998 on blasphemy charges, was recently acquitted. Mr. Masih, a local pronunciation of Messiah, is a common family name among Christians in Pakistan, which recently required people to have a given and family name; until then, many rural villagers went through life with a single name.

Two other Christians, brothers Saleem and Rasheed Masih, were acquitted in March 1999 of blasphemy charges stemming from a dispute with an ice cream vendor in the Pasrur region in northeast Pakistan.

But while Saleem Masih was in prison, his wife was raped in July 2000.

"The police refused to investigate it," said Ann Buwalda, director of the Jubilee Campaign in Fairfax. "Most people feel it was connected to the case of her husband."

She is trying to get all three men and their families out of the country.

"As long as they stay there," she said, "it's open season on them by any radical Muslim."


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`We are peaceful Muslims'

AVI STEINHARDT/Courier-Post

Women in traditional head coverings pray at Bait Ul Qayem in Delran. The women sit behind the men and boys during services. All worshippers sit on prayer rugs.

Saturday, April 5, 2003

Delran imam says Saddam misuses call for `jihad'

By KIM MULFORD

Courier-Post Staff

This week, Saddam Hussein called for a jihad against the coalition forces fighting in Iraq.

"Strike at them. Fight them," said Iraqi Information Minister Mohammad Saeed al-Sahhaf in a statement read on national television. "They are aggressors, evil, accursed by God. You shall be victorious and they shall be vanquished."

Saddam, who is aligned with the Baath political party, is not seen as a religious leader in Iraq. But by using the term jihad, he can appeal to Iraq's Muslims, who make up the majority of the population.

"He is asking Muslims to adhere to what he knows Muslims believe," said Shams Inati, an expert in Islam and Iraq who teaches at Villanova University. "Namely, that if they feel they are attacked, they should defend themselves."

It's a term that's often incorrectly translated as "holy war," Inati said.

Jihad literally means "effort" or "strive," she said. There are two kinds of jihad. The greater jihad is the internal struggle for self-control and the achievement of a higher moral standard.

The lesser jihad is self-defense against aggression or to fight oppression. Muslims are required to defend themselves against attack, Inati said.

Muhammad Rashiduzzaman, an associate professor of political science at Rowan University, said Saddam has tried to exploit religion with his calls for jihad.

"But I don't think it has worked. He is not perceived as a reli is against Islam.

"He is a fake Muslim," Hussain adds. "He is a hypocrite Muslim . . . He is a sinner. He is an oppressor."

On a recent Friday, Hussain delivered a message about peace to his congregants at Bait Ul Qayem, a Shia mosque.

Islam means peace, he said. It's a religion of peace.

The Western media assumes Islam teaches terrorism, he said. But there is no room in Islam for terrorism or hijacking or killing or law-breaking.

Religion is one thing and its follower is something else, he said. He compared it to traffic laws that some drivers break.

"The Western media should separate Islam from Muslims," he said.

Rehana Karamali would not comment on the war, but said these are sad times. A native of India, she was raised in Pakistan and has lived in Eastampton for the last 20 years. She works for the New Jersey Department of Environmental Protection.

"We can only pray," she said.

Others said Saddam Hussein must go, because he kills and tortures people. Worse, he does it in the name of Islam.

Hussain said removing Saddam is an obligation. But he worried about the Iraqi citizens who could be killed by coalition forces.

"The killing of innocent people, whether in Iraq or in New York, will hurt me," the imam said. "We are peaceful Muslims. The thing that hurts us is the killing of innocent people."


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Muhammad clearly condoned dishonesty, as well as murder, when it suited his purposes. Imam Abu Hammid Ghazali says: "Speaking is a means to achieve objectives. If a praiseworthy aim is attainable through both telling the truth and lying, it is unlawful to accomplish through lying because there is no need for it. When it is possible to achieve such an aim by lying but not by telling the truth, it is permissible to lie if attaining the goal is permissible." (Ahmad ibn Naqib al-Misri, The Reliance of the Traveller, translated by Nuh Ha Mim Keller, amana publications, 1997, section r8.2, page 745)

Note that Al-Ghazali is one of the most famous and respected Muslim theologians of all time.

So, tell me, how exactly do you know when imam so-n-so is telling the truth?

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