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YEC's cannot reconcile "tohu wabohu" in Gen 1:2 with the same 2 words in Jer 4:23!


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1 minute ago, BeyondET said:

Not even scientists think the universe was some kind of slime. 

It's apparent you like to exaggerate, to says words that no one has said like extra slime.

Excellent. I tend to think in terms of geological periods:

https://www.geologyin.com/2016/12/10-interesting-facts-about-geological.html .

Gap people (like me) tend to view this set of geological periods within Genesis 1:1 and Genesis 1:2. 

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20 minutes ago, SavedOnebyGrace said:

Excellent. I tend to think in terms of geological periods:

https://www.geologyin.com/2016/12/10-interesting-facts-about-geological.html .

Gap people (like me) tend to view this set of geological periods within Genesis 1:1 and Genesis 1:2. 

Thanks for info, fascinating read. I've been wondering what all the gap explanation is about.

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4 hours ago, FreeGrace said:

Can you define "primordial chaos"?  What it is, and when it showed up.  Thanks.

It is a mythical construct to explain what was before the created world arose from it. It is not to be considered an actual, tangible, or historical state of the world. From wiki, since it was easy to grab and captures the essence...

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The term chaos has been adopted in modern comparative mythology and religious studies as referring to the primordial state before creation, strictly combining two separate notions of primordial waters or a primordial darkness from which a new order emerges and a primordial state as a merging of opposites, such as heaven and earth, which must be separated by a creator deity in an act of cosmogony.[45] In both cases, chaos referring to a notion of a primordial state contains the cosmos in potentia but needs to be formed by a demiurge before the world can begin its existence.

 

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8 hours ago, BeyondET said:

Thanks for info, fascinating read. I've been wondering what all the gap explanation is about.

There's a lot of information for Gap people at kjvbible.org (Kenneth Johnson wrote a lot of material on the website besides a illustrated book which I also have.) My favorite book on the Gap Theory is by Dr. Steven Dill entitled called "In the Beginnings". He was an evolutionist earlier in life. Another writer I like is David Snoke.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Snoke

He's a physicist. These three are modern writers but there are quite a few more. Michael Behe and Stephen C. Meyer are other scientists I also read. DNA is also a subject of interest for me.

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18 minutes ago, SavedOnebyGrace said:

There's a lot of information for Gap people at kjvbible.org (Kenneth Johnson wrote a lot of material on the website besides a illustrated book which I also have.) My favorite book on the Gap Theory is by Dr. Steven Dill entitled called "In the Beginnings". He was an evolutionist earlier in life. Another writer I like is David Snoke.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Snoke

He's a physicist. These three are modern writers but there are quite a few more.

Rgr that, is this the book?

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This verse seems to imply one dryland spread out to many drylands, aka continents. A continent breaking apart would probably cause wastelands, amorphous, thus areas of regeneration, restoration.

Psalm 136

5By His insight He made the heavens. His loving devotion endures forever.

6He spread out the earth upon the waters. His loving devotion endures forever.

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6 hours ago, BeyondET said:

Rgr that, is this the book?

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That 's it. We even corresponded via email when the previous edition of his book came out. This is the first book I recommend to explain the Gap Theory to friends and relatives. There are others since I've been studying this subject since the early '80s.

If the Gap Theory doesn't work for you, any book by Dr. Hugh Ross should be good for the Day-Age understanding.

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7 hours ago, BeyondET said:

This verse seems to imply one dryland spread out to many drylands, aka continents. A continent breaking apart would probably cause wastelands, amorphous, thus areas of regeneration, restoration.

Psalm 136

5By His insight He made the heavens. His loving devotion endures forever.

6He spread out the earth upon the waters. His loving devotion endures forever.

The Grand Canyon is the result of a flood 4000 years ago! All this has been done under God's direction. There's hidden gems in the Psalms.

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13 hours ago, BeyondET said:

The flood in Noah's time brought alot of chaos. The sun is nothing but a burning ball of chaos. And it will kill anything that gets near it.

Doesn't matter.

13 hours ago, BeyondET said:

It's wa-bohu not wabohu.

Doesn't matter.

13 hours ago, BeyondET said:

Do you think it's impossible for God to create one atom at a time?

Nothing is impossible with God.  What a weird question!  However, why would you even think He would?  

Maybe the better question would be this:  do you think it's impossible for God to create WHOLE systems at once?

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13 hours ago, BeyondET said:

Not even scientists think the universe was some kind of slime.

Darwin described one cell amoebas climbing out of primordial slime.  And you mentioned "primordial", so that's why the question.

13 hours ago, BeyondET said:

 

It's apparent you like to exaggerate, to says words that no one has said like extra slime.

Well, where would this slime be BEFORE God started creation?  You just can't answer any of these questions, and you're the one who brings up "chaos" before creation.

So if you can't answer the questions your comments beg, you probably shouldn't make those comments.

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