Saints don't flee

[Shilohsfoal]

It has been said on this board that the saints flee and run away in fear of what may happen to them.Some people even insist that Jesus tells his followers to flee.

Those who keep the commandments of God and have the testimony of Jesus Christ know better.

 

Revelation 2:10

Do not be afraid of what you are about to suffer. I tell you, the devil will put some of you in prison to test you, and you will suffer persecution for ten days. Be faithful, even to the point of death, and I will give you life as your victor’s crown.

[Shilohsfoal]

Where would they go after Christ tells them to stay in Israel till he comes?

 

 

Go not into the way of the Gentiles, and into any city of the Samaritans enter ye not:

⁶ But go rather to the lost sheep of the house of Israel.

⁷ And as ye go, preach, saying, The kingdom of heaven is at hand.

⁸ Heal the sick, cleanse the lepers, raise the dead, cast out devils: freely ye have received, freely give.

⁹ Provide neither gold, nor silver, nor brass in your purses,

¹⁰ Nor scrip for your journey, neither two coats, neither shoes, nor yet staves: for the workman is worthy of his meat.

¹¹ And into whatsoever city or town ye shall enter, enquire who in it is worthy; and there abide till ye go thence.

¹² And when ye come into an house, salute it.

¹³ And if the house be worthy, let your peace come upon it: but if it be not worthy, let you

 

¹⁴ And whosoever shall not receive you, nor hear your words, when ye depart out of that house or city, shake off the dust of your feet.

¹⁵ Verily I say unto you, It shall be more tolerable for the land of Sodom and Gomorrha in the day of judgment, than for that city.

¹⁶ Behold, I send you forth as sheep in the midst of wolves: be ye therefore wise as serpents, and harmless as doves.

¹⁷ But beware of men: for they will deliver you up to the councils, and they will scourge you in their synagogues;

¹⁸ And ye shall be brought before governors and kings for my sake, for a testimony against them and the Gentiles.

¹⁹ But when they deliver you up, take no thought how or what ye shall speak: for it shall be given you in that same hour what ye shall speak.

²⁰ For it is not ye that speak, but the Spirit of your Father which speaketh in you.

 

²¹ And the brother shall deliver up the brother to death, and the father the child: and the children shall rise up against their parents, and cause them to be put to death.

²² And ye shall be hated of all men for my name's sake: but he that endureth to the end shall be saved.

²³ But when they persecute you in this city, flee ye into another: for verily I say unto you, Ye shall not have gone over the cities of Israel, till the Son of man be come.

 

[Shilohsfoal]

 

Why would the watchers flee?Should they not do as they were commanded?

 

Ezekiel 33

33 Again the word of the Lord came unto me, saying,

² Son of man, speak to the children of thy people, and say unto them, When I bring the sword upon a land, if the people of the land take a man of their coasts, and set him for their watchman:

³ If when he seeth the sword come upon the land, he blow the trumpet, and warn the people;

⁴ Then whosoever heareth the sound of the trumpet, and taketh not warning; if the sword come, and take him away, his blood shall be upon his own head.

⁵ He heard the sound of the trumpet, and took not warning; his blood shall be upon him. But he that taketh warning shall deliver his soul.

⁶ But if the watchman see the sword come, and blow not the trumpet, and the people be not warned; if the sword come, and take any person from among them, he is taken away in his iniquity; but his blood will I require at the watchman's hand.

⁷ So thou, O son of man, I have set thee a watchman unto the house of Israel; therefore thou shalt hear the word at my mouth, and warn them from me.

[Shilohsfoal]

And this is what happens after those saints don't flee.This is what happens after they follow the lamb.

 

Revelation 20

⁴ And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.

⁵ But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection.

⁶ Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.

 

 

 

Edited August 6, 2023 by Shilohsfoal

[Shilohsfoal]

Again

The woman flees into the wilderness but those who keep the commandments of God and have the testimony of Jesus Christ don't flee .

 

 

¹⁴ And to the woman were given two wings of a great eagle, that she might fly into the wilderness, into her place, where she is nourished for a time, and times, and half a time, from the face of the serpent.

¹⁵ And the serpent cast out of his mouth water as a flood after the woman, that he might cause her to be carried away of the flood.

¹⁶ And the earth helped the woman, and the earth opened her mouth, and swallowed up the flood which the dragon cast out of his mouth.

¹⁷ And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ.

 

 

Do I even need to tell anyone who will reign with Christ?

Well,it sure won't be the woman .

[Montana Marv]

16 hours ago, Shilohsfoal said:

Again

The woman flees into the wilderness but those who keep the commandments of God and have the testimony of Jesus Christ don't flee .

 

 

¹⁴ And to the woman were given two wings of a great eagle, that she might fly into the wilderness, into her place, where she is nourished for a time, and times, and half a time, from the face of the serpent.

¹⁵ And the serpent cast out of his mouth water as a flood after the woman, that he might cause her to be carried away of the flood.

¹⁶ And the earth helped the woman, and the earth opened her mouth, and swallowed up the flood which the dragon cast out of his mouth.

¹⁷ And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ.

 

 

Do I even need to tell anyone who will reign with Christ?

Well,it sure won't be the woman .

Those Jews who were not in Judea. 

The woman's seed is or are those of Israel.

The woman is Israel. Hosea describes her as unfaithful. Yet their sin shall be removed in a single day. In that day ten men from different countries will ask one Jew if they can worship the Lord with them, because they are favored. 

In Christ 

Montana Marv 

[Shilohsfoal]

2 hours ago, Montana Marv said:

Those Jews who were not in Judea. 

The woman's seed is or are those of Israel.

The woman is Israel. Hosea describes her as unfaithful. Yet their sin shall be removed in a single day. In that day ten men from different countries will ask one Jew if they can worship the Lord with them, because they are favored. 

In Christ 

Montana Marv 

Many people worship the beast and say who is like the beast?Who can make war with it?

No,Israel doesn't flee into the wilderness and they are saints who remain in Israel with the beast. The saints don't flee from the beast because they follow the lamb.The lamb did not flee and the saints who follow the lamb will not flee.

 

¹⁷ And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ.

 

[AdHoc]

20 hours ago, Shilohsfoal said:

Again

The woman flees into the wilderness but those who keep the commandments of God and have the testimony of Jesus Christ don't flee .

 

 

¹⁴ And to the woman were given two wings of a great eagle, that she might fly into the wilderness, into her place, where she is nourished for a time, and times, and half a time, from the face of the serpent.

¹⁵ And the serpent cast out of his mouth water as a flood after the woman, that he might cause her to be carried away of the flood.

¹⁶ And the earth helped the woman, and the earth opened her mouth, and swallowed up the flood which the dragon cast out of his mouth.

¹⁷ And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ.

 

 

Do I even need to tell anyone who will reign with Christ?

Well,it sure won't be the woman .

Not only does the Woman flee, but a Chapter later in Revelation 13:7 the saints are overcome by the Beast. The reason is not hard to find. Those left on earth are the slothful Christians. We all know some (and even have to watch ourselves.
- In Matthew 7:21-23 men and women who knew Christ and did many wonders in His name, will be refused entry to the Kingdom of Heaven
- In Matthew 19 a rich man who admitted Who Jesus was, and was loved by the Lord (Mk.10:21), did everything right but failed to enter the Kingdom of Heaven
- In Matthew 22 a man who answered the call of the servants of the Lord and was IN the dining hall was ejected from the Wedding Feast
- In Matthew 24 a servant who served well grew lax at the end and was not only forbidden the Kingdom but was chastised.
- In Matthew 25 the servant who was refused the Kingdom was a servant still even though he was ejected
- In Matthew 25 the five foolish Virgins were still Virgins and had the right oil when they were refused entry
- In Matthew 25:31-46 those left on earth who needed help are "the LEAST of our Lord's Brethren".
- Those left on earth must flee to the mountains of Judea when they see the Abomination
- Paul fled persecution
- Jesus must flee to Egypt
- Christians must flee (Matt.10:23)

There is a reason for a Christian to flee. In this age God is extending grace. To do this He must forego retribution. The Christian must turn the other cheek - not retaliate. When the believer's life is in danger he must flee as there is no retaliation.

[AdHoc]

2 hours ago, Shilohsfoal said:

Many people worship the beast and say who is like the beast?Who can make war with it?

No,Israel doesn't flee into the wilderness and they are saints who remain in Israel with the beast. The saints don't flee from the beast because they follow the lamb.The lamb did not flee and the saints who follow the lamb will not flee.

 

¹⁷ And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ.

 

Have you ever noticed that we must resist the Devil, but flee from men? The reason is that our battle in this age is against the Devil and his principalities in the heavenlies. The armor is so that we can STAND. Contrariwise, we do not fight flesh and blood in this age. This leaves only one option - flee.

[Shilohsfoal]

3 minutes ago, AdHoc said:

Not only does the Woman flee, but a Chapter later in Revelation 13:7 the saints are overcome by the Beast. The reason is not hard to find. Those left on earth are the slothful Christians. We all know some (and even have to watch ourselves.
- In Matthew 7:21-23 men and women who knew Christ and did many wonders in His name, will be refused entry to the Kingdom of Heaven
- In Matthew 19 a rich man who admitted Who Jesus was, and was loved by the Lord (Mk.10:21), did everything right but failed to enter the Kingdom of Heaven
- In Matthew 22 a man who answered the call of the servants of the Lord and was IN the dining hall was ejected from the Wedding Feast
- In Matthew 24 a servant who served well grew lax at the end and was not only forbidden the Kingdom but was chastised.
- In Matthew 25 the servant who was refused the Kingdom was a servant still even though he was ejected
- In Matthew 25 the five foolish Virgins were still Virgins and had the right oil when they were refused entry
- In Matthew 25:31-46 those left on earth who needed help are "the LEAST of our Lord's Brethren".
- Those left on earth must flee to the mountains of Judea when they see the Abomination
- Paul fled persecution
- Jesus must flee to Egypt
- Christians must flee (Matt.10:23)

There is a reason for a Christian to flee. In this age God is extending grace. To do this He must forego retribution. The Christian must turn the other cheek - not retaliate. When the believer's life is in danger he must flee as there is no retaliation.

So you believe the saints should not do as Christ commanded them to do and preach the gospel throughout all the cities of Israel till he comes?

You believe they should flee and forget all that Christ said in the gospel?