Big Boy Stan Murf Posted September 18, 2023 Group: Mars Hill Followers: 2 Topic Count: 3 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 1,027 Content Per Day: 4.54 Reputation: 279 Days Won: 0 Joined: 09/26/2023 Status: Offline Author Share Posted September 18, 2023 1 hour ago, DeighAnn said: Has there been some sort of a 'miracle' in your life? Yeah, I got born again almost 40 years ago and learned early on that drinking the booze and any for of intoxication is evil and sinful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeighAnn Posted September 18, 2023 Group: Royal Member Followers: 9 Topic Count: 84 Topics Per Day: 0.05 Content Count: 6,301 Content Per Day: 3.61 Reputation: 1,658 Days Won: 0 Joined: 07/31/2019 Status: Offline Share Posted September 18, 2023 9 minutes ago, Stan Murff said: So getting dunk, buying hookers, smoking crack... just whatever one's soul lusts after is all good with the Lord? I would suggest starting at Genesis and doing a refresh. Other than that I would Ask the Lord, HE IS LISTENING RIGHT NOW, even taking notes....discerning the thoughts and intents of your heart and mind... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeighAnn Posted September 18, 2023 Group: Royal Member Followers: 9 Topic Count: 84 Topics Per Day: 0.05 Content Count: 6,301 Content Per Day: 3.61 Reputation: 1,658 Days Won: 0 Joined: 07/31/2019 Status: Offline Share Posted September 18, 2023 11 minutes ago, Stan Murff said: Yeah, I got born again almost 40 years ago and learned early on that drinking the booze and any for of intoxication is evil and sinful. Are you saying your opening statement was just a lie? If so, don't you find that to be along the lines of when the Pharisees took counsel how they might entangle Jesus in his talk? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Boy Stan Murf Posted September 18, 2023 Group: Mars Hill Followers: 2 Topic Count: 3 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 1,027 Content Per Day: 4.54 Reputation: 279 Days Won: 0 Joined: 09/26/2023 Status: Offline Author Share Posted September 18, 2023 What's a "Crikey" ? ? ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael37 Posted September 18, 2023 Group: Servant Followers: 21 Topic Count: 244 Topics Per Day: 0.11 Content Count: 7,003 Content Per Day: 3.28 Reputation: 4,921 Days Won: 2 Joined: 07/05/2018 Status: Offline Birthday: 09/23/1954 Share Posted September 18, 2023 2 minutes ago, Stan Murff said: What's a "Crikey" ? ? ? A substitute blasphemy. I've hidden it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Boy Stan Murf Posted September 18, 2023 Group: Mars Hill Followers: 2 Topic Count: 3 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 1,027 Content Per Day: 4.54 Reputation: 279 Days Won: 0 Joined: 09/26/2023 Status: Offline Author Share Posted September 18, 2023 OK, I thought it might be something people from Australia say. Pretty sure I've head folks from down under say some word similar to this... you know, when they don't get their vegemite sandwich 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrueFollowerOfChrist Posted September 18, 2023 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 3 Topic Count: 9 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 1,049 Content Per Day: 1.61 Reputation: 597 Days Won: 0 Joined: 07/26/2022 Status: Offline Share Posted September 18, 2023 On 8/6/2023 at 10:52 AM, Stan Murff said: I go to a non denomination church that has teachings similar to some of the popular tv preachers out there such as Joel Osteen. The question I have is why is it wrong for Christians to drink alcohol at home and get what some would classify as getting drunk? I've done this on weekends after working hard all week for years. Someone recently told me this was a sin? Most of the preachers I have heard say that our future sins are already forgiven and once we get saved we have eternal life and nobody and take us away from the Lord. What's the deal with this anyway? I'm not hurting anybody and I don't drive while drinking or operate heavy machinery or anything dangerous to hurt me or my wife or kids. I don't get falling down drunk, just buzzed real good. I know others in my church that say they do the same and have no problem with it. Should I be worried about this? Or is it true that all future sins are already forgiven and it's no big deal? The bible doesn't condemn alcohol. It condemns getting drunk. Jesus himself make alcohol for a wedding and drank with his disciples the night before his crucifixion. Sadly many churches and pastors attempt to impose legalism on people by going further with restrictions than the bible does. Paul said we have freedom in Christ, and yes all future sin is forgiven. Many verses make it clear salvation is a done and settled deal. Sin is still a big deal however as sin will damage our relationship with Jesus, 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Boy Stan Murf Posted September 18, 2023 Group: Mars Hill Followers: 2 Topic Count: 3 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 1,027 Content Per Day: 4.54 Reputation: 279 Days Won: 0 Joined: 09/26/2023 Status: Offline Author Share Posted September 18, 2023 It was a rhetorical question Einstein. If all our future sins are already forgiven and washed away, then it doesn't matter if we live in sin or not because we'll all go to Heaven anyway... even if we live like the devil. They claim if one did that they would a few rewards, such as have a smaller mansion in Heaven than others, maybe have few angers as servants than others, maybe your crown won't have as man y jewels as others... and that's the only "punishment" we would get for living in sin and being a child of disobedience. I've run across quite a few folks that believe in all this false doctrine that do in fact have sin in their lives! Some like to watch porn or otherwise lust after the ladies, maybe smoke some weed, lie and cheat when it benefits them, etc, etc. Funny how they try to hide their sinful behavior! If all our future sins are already forgiven and washed away, then they just should come out with their sin and be proud about it and claim where sin abounds, grace does much more abound so let's all sin more so we can have more of God's grace! If anyone wonders why we are seeing so many falling away from the Lord.... it's teachings such as this that is the cause. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Boy Stan Murf Posted September 18, 2023 Group: Mars Hill Followers: 2 Topic Count: 3 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 1,027 Content Per Day: 4.54 Reputation: 279 Days Won: 0 Joined: 09/26/2023 Status: Offline Author Share Posted September 18, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, TrueFollowerOfChrist said: Sin is still a big deal however as sin will damage our relationship with Jesus, You are absolutely right... sin WILL in fact damage our relationship with the Lord! When one turns away from the Lord and sins, they must forsake their sin and confess their sin to the Lord in order to be right with the Lord once again. Proverbs 28:13 He that covereth his sins shall not prosper: but whoso confesseth and forsaketh them shall have mercy. 1 John 1:9 If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness. Edited September 18, 2023 by Stan Murff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starise Posted September 18, 2023 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 13 Topic Count: 279 Topics Per Day: 0.21 Content Count: 13,107 Content Per Day: 9.69 Reputation: 13,599 Days Won: 149 Joined: 08/26/2020 Status: Offline Share Posted September 18, 2023 8 hours ago, Stan Murff said: If all our future sins are already forgiven and washed away, then they just should come out with their sin and be proud about it and claim where sin abounds, grace does much more abound so let's all sin more so we can have more of God's grace! No. This is what Paul warned against, and if you have ever met a true believer like please tell me who they are. NO true believer wants to sin or make excuses for it, yet we DO dometimes slip up. In that case, there is no need to be re saved. We only need to repent. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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