Big Boy Stan Murf

Yeah, the Lord goes thru the same thing having to repeat Himself again and again until people get it!

Uh huh, and if one doesn't know God's Word... 'ol slwefoot will have them deceived and defeated in short order! Note what Jesus did when the devil came to temp Him... Jesus spoke God's Word and stood on God's Word.

Here's one that most definitely DOES Speak Against the Eternal Security of the believer Galatians 6:7-8 Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap. For he that soweth to his flesh shall of the flesh reap corruption; but he that soweth to the Spirit shall of the Spirit reap life everlasting. God gave man free will... if man chooses to turn and walk away from the Lord, God will let them do so. Romans 1:28 they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do what ought not to be done The gifts and callings of God are without repentance which means God cannot violate our free will and save us anyway IF we choose to go back to our sin which is living in darkness. In God there is NO darkness. (1 John 1:5) This is a major biblical truth the OSAS crowd always explains away or denies is simply this... God is NOT mocked, what we sow is what we reap - if we sow to the flesh we shall of the flesh reap corruption. (Gal 6:7,8) In Gal 6:8, the word corruption is... G5356 fthora from G5351; decay, i.e. ruin -- corruption, destroy, perish. G5351 strengthened from phthio (to pine or waste); properly, to shrivel or wither, i.e. to spoil or to ruin, by moral influences, to deprave): -- corrupt (self), defile, destroy. If one claims we DO reap corruption when we sin, then they are admitting they do not believe OSAS / Eternal security doctrine (and sadly many of their friends will forsake them!).... and if one claims we DO NOT reap what we sow, then according to Gal 6:7, that would be mocking God! So Gal 6:7,8 is quite the quandary, quite the state of uncertainty and perplexity for the adherents of OSAS doctrine.

That's coming. We are witnessing mass phycosis thru out all the world where the forces of darkness are deceiving people everywhere into all manner of perversion against that which the Lord says is true and right. Only those that accept the whole counsel of God who are willing to make a stand daily against darkness are able to see thru satan's tricks, snares, and deceptions.

I know right! 'ol slewfoot told them in the garden of eden they would not die if they sinned against God, and apparently 'ol slewfoot's message is alive and well today. Those that don't follow OSAS are rejecting the leading of the Holy Ghost? That's not been my experience at all. In fact, it's the Holy Ghost that pointed out all these other scriptures that folks in the OSAS community... don't want to talk about. After listening to people's ideas about OSAS and comparing them to the whole counsel of God.... an ousider watching all this might surmise that there must be 2 Holy Spirits! One that leads people to a select few verses, and another that leads people to look at the entire Word of God. Weird.

That's why I typically say "catching away" since the word rapture is not in the Bible.

Yeah, some say when in rome do as the romans.... so off they go to do what the world does trying to impress them. This is a turn off to sinners out in the world because why would they want to be like someone... who is like them?

No I get it... the OSAS people get to present their view point as correct and infallible... but those that present an opposing view to OSAS are in "pride" if they present their viewpoint as being correct. I would expect no less from a leader of the OSAS community!

Looks like he's got a demon on his back!

The whole OSAS thing causes all kinds of ripple effects in to other areas of people's lives so they need to be warned as it's related to all aspects of Christian life!

Well they're going to just have to start cutting some people off if they can't pay their bill. That's chicken feed compared to all the money these big corporation earn! They just want people to feel sorry for them

How can this possible be done without... knowing God's Word? Hosea 4:6 My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge: because thou hast rejected knowledge, I will also reject thee, that thou shalt be no priest to me: seeing thou hast forgotten the law of thy God, I will also forget thy children. A stern warning from the Lord!

Yep, it's gonna be great! We can look for the catching away of the church sometime after the anti-christ has been revealed (2 Thessalonians 2:1-3), and since the world continues to move in that direction it should be too far off. So, once the world goes bonkers over some new political guy on the scene and they make him the one world leader... then we'll know the rapture is really REALLY getting close. Although we don't know the exact day, we should know the season.

No, it has nothing to do with "pride" as I'm not doing anything the OSAS people aren't doing. I'm simply asking for clarification since it was a truth from God's Word that was posted. Humbling one's self before the Lord is to accept His Word (1 Peter 5:6), His viewpoint which is what I'm doing. So is what the Lord says in Gal 6:7,8 that when one sows to the flesh (sin) they shall reap corruption.... true? Nobody from the OSAS community dares answer that because doing so puts their doctrine at risk if they say yes it's true... and if they say it's not true then according to Gal 6:7,8 that would be mocking God. So this is quite the quandary the OSAS community finds itself in and due to this, I really don't expect an answer. Sorry to hear the plain reading of scripture doesn't conform to OSAS thought and beliefs is considered "harsh" God's Word says what it says and I'm sorry that that's apparently a problem for the OSAS community who don't like the verses being posted since it paints the OSAS doctrine in a not so good light.

God is also going to put His "mark" on believers which I think is in Revelation in contrast to the ant-christ putting a mark on people. As Creator, the Lord retains certain rights to do things as He sees fit... so unless He has given man permission or instructions to do something, it's disobedience for man to take it upon himself to do certain things just because he wants to. This is the whole problem with the so-called "prosperity gospel" is where people decide what they are going to do and then tell the Lord to bless it just because they decided that's what they want to do! The tattoo and body piercings are the same way. Obedient children wait on the Lord for His leading and don't just jump up and decide on their own what they are going to do and then expect the Lord to bless it. Obedient children incur God's wrath for for going their own way.

The Lord never instructed Christians to keep Saturday Sabbath as some claim, here's why... Paul plainly declared that no Christian should be “judged” (i.e., condemned) for failing to observe the Sabbath (Col. 2:16) — a statement that never would have been made if the law of Moses had been binding when the apostle penned his letter. ------------------------------------------------ Notice "Sabbath days", plural. These Sabbaths, new moons and holydays were part of the ceremonial system. Notice that Sunday was also a Holyday: Lev 23:7 On the first day you shall have a holy convocation; you shall do no customary work on it. ------------------------------------------------ The evidence of the New Testament is decisive. The early Christians met on “the first day of the week” (Acts 20:7), indeed “every first day of the week” (1 Cor. 16:2). [Note: The Greek of 1 Corinthians 16:2 is kata mian sabbatou, literally, “on the first day of every week” — see: J.H. Thayer, Greek-English Lexicon of the New Testament, Edinburgh: T.&T. Clark, 1958, p. 328). There is no biblical case that can be made in defense of “Christian Sabbath-keeping” for today. Efforts to this end are exercises in theological futility. That proposition has the support of neither Scripture mandate nor apostolic precedent. There is no scriptural call to action in the New Testament for Christians to “Christian Sabbath-keeping”… Jesus Christ IS our Sabbath and those walking in the Spirit being born again have entered into Christ being translated from the world into the Kingdom of God’s Dear Son (Colossians 1:13). Sundays - Why Christians Observe on Sunday Jesus arose upon the first day of the week. Mark 16:2, Luke 24:1, John 20:1 Pentecost by Divine design always came on Sunday. (Lev. 23:15-16) Acts 2 The church was established repentance and remission of sins first preached this Sunday in Acts 2 and they were added to the saved. Acts 2 The early church met on the first day of the week for communion (or to have a meal together and fellowship while hearing Paul teach). Acts 20:7 Early church offerings were directed to be done upon the first day of the week. 1 Corinthians 16:2 Mankind's Day of Rest, the Sabbath Day Question - Since the Old Testament commanded people to observe the Sabbath on the seventh day of the week, why have most Christian churches switched their day of worship to Sunday, the first day of the week? Not all churches answer this question the same way. Some groups, most notably the Seventh-day Adventists, still worship on the seventh day. They argue that the sabbath was one of the Ten Commandments (Exodus 20), and is therefore part of God's permanent will for His people. They often claim that the shift to Sunday was part of a great apostasy that allowed pagan ideas to infiltrate the church during the early centuries (see Ellen G. White, The Great Controversy, pp. 58-59). Other Christian groups say that Sunday is the Christian version of the sabbath. They suggest that the main point of God's command to observe the sabbath was not the seventh day, but the idea of one day out of the seven. Jesus claimed that he was “lord even of the sabbath” (Mark 2:28), and therefore had the authority to change it to a different day. This position argues that Jesus changed the day to Sunday as a way of extending its blessing from the Jews to the whole world. Still others Christians would say that we no longer observe the Jewish sabbath, but worship instead on Sunday, a distinctively Christian holy day. They argue that the early church very soon began meeting on Sunday in honor of the resurrection of Jesus, which took place on the first day of the week. At the very beginning, the church in Jerusalem met every day in the temple and in private homes (Acts 2:46). Since the first believers were all Jewish, it seems safe to assume that they continued to participate in Jewish synagogue and temple worship for some time. However, the New Testament makes it clear that the observance of a particular day was not imposed as a binding obligation. Romans 14:5-6 makes it clear that there was some freedom in the matter of special days. Colossians 2:16-17 commanded the church not to allow anyone to act as their judge in regard to sabbath days. And Galatians 4:9-10 warns against going back under the Law by insisting on the legal requirement of special days. The records that remain in the New Testament show that the first day of the week soon became a day of worship. When Paul wanted to collect an offering from the church at Corinth, he asked them to gather the money on the “first day of the week” (1 Cor. 16:2). And when he wanted to meet with the believers at Troas, the gathering took place "on the first day of the week, when we were gathered together to break bread" (Acts 20:7). In Revelation 1:10, the apostle John described himself as being "in the Spirit on the Lord's Day." Most writers have thought he was referring to Sunday, so that our use of "the Lord's Day" as a term for Sunday comes from this verse. There is no Scripture passage that specifically teaches that the sabbath has been transferred from one day to another. It seems most likely that the shift from Saturday to Sunday was gradual, and took place along with the change from a mostly Jewish church to a mostly Gentile one. The early church fathers generally viewed sabbath as a Jewish observance, and the Lord's Day as the proper Christian observance. For example, Ignatius wrote in the early 100's A.D., describing Christians with a Jewish background as those who “have come to the possession of a new hope, no longer observing the Sabbath, but living in observance of the Lord's Day, on which also our life has sprung up again by Him and by His death” (Magnesians 9 ) [Editor's note: Magnesians is a letter written to the church at Magnesia by Ignatius, a church father, also called Theophorus.] (NOT a Scriptural Reference) A person's decision concerning sabbath observance probably hinges on the question of how we view the entire Old Testament. If all of it is still binding on us, then so is the sabbath. If there are parts that are no longer binding because they were directed specifically to the Jewish nation, or because they were for ritual purposes, then the sabbath is open for discussion. No matter what position a person takes, it is important to recognize that God has a claim to all of my time. When I give Him one day of the week, it reminds me that He owns all seven! source - http://christiananswers.net/q-acb/acb-t007.html “Would you explain Matthew 28:1, ‘In the end of the Sabbath’ (KJV), or ‘Late on the Sabbath’ (ASV)? This seems to say that the women came to the tomb and found it empty on the evening of the Sabbath, which would indicate that Jesus was raised on Saturday, not Sunday.” No, this does not mean that Jesus was raised from the grave on Saturday. The problem is one of translation from the original Greek language into English. First, the other Gospel accounts clearly show that this visit occurred upon the first day of the week (Mark 16:1-2; Luke 24:1; John 20:1). Second, the rendition of Matthew 28:1 should be as follows: “After the sabbath day, as it began to dawn toward the first day of the week . . .” The Sabbath ended at 6:00 the previous evening, and the dawn of Sunday morning was approaching. The Greek of the passage is opse sabbaton, meaning “after the Sabbath” (Arndt and Gingrich 1967, 606). The Revised Standard Version thus correctly translates, “Now after the sabbath . . .” The New American Standard Bible renders the verse in the same way. Third, it is the universal testimony of both Scripture and church history that the early Christians regarded Sunday as Christ’s resurrection day. The disciples met together on resurrection Sunday (John 20:19), then on Sunday a week later (20:26). The church was established on Pentecost, which always came on Sunday (Leviticus 23:15-16; Acts 2:1). The early Christians, under the leadership of inspired men, worshipped on Sunday (Acts 20:7; 1 Corinthians 16:2). That day was later designated as “the Lord’s day” (Revelation 1:10). To all of this evidence agree the testimonies of the writers in the post-apostolic age, i.e., from A.D. 100 to A.D. 325. Sunday was the resurrection day. The Lord came forth from the dead not on Saturday, but on Sunday morning. Galatians 2:11-20 (NAS) But when Cephas (Peter) came to Antioch, I opposed him to his face, because he stood condemned. For prior to the coming of certain men from James, he used to eat with the Gentiles; but when they came, he began to withdraw and hold himself aloof, fearing the party of the circumcision. And the rest of the Jews joined him in hypocrisy, with the result that even Barnabas was carried away by their hypocrisy. But when I saw that they were not straightforward about the truth of the gospel, I said to Cephas in the presence of all, "If you, being a Jew, live like the Gentiles and not like the Jews, how is it that you compel the Gentiles to live like Jews? "We are Jews by nature, and not sinners from among the Gentiles; nevertheless knowing that a man is not justified by the works of the Law but through faith in Christ Jesus, even we have believed in Christ Jesus, that we may be justified by faith in Christ, and not by the works of the Law; since by the works of the Law shall no flesh be justified. "But if, while seeking to be justified in Christ, we ourselves have also been found sinners, is Christ then a minister of sin? May it never be! "For if I rebuild what I have once destroyed, I prove myself to be a transgressor. "For through the Law I died to the Law, that I might live to God. "I have been crucified with Christ; and it is no longer I who live, but Christ lives in me; and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by faith in the Son of God, who loved me, and delivered Himself up for me. Romans 2:25-29 For circumcision verily profiteth, if thou keep the law: but if thou be a breaker of the law, thy circumcision is made uncircumcision. Therefore if the uncircumcision keep the righteousness of the law, shall not his uncircumcision be counted for circumcision? And shall not uncircumcision which is by nature, if it fulfil the law, judge thee, who by the letter and circumcision dost transgress the law? For he is not a Jew, which is one outwardly; neither is that circumcision, which is outward in the flesh: But he is a Jew, which is one inwardly; and circumcision is that of the heart, in the spirit, and not in the letter; whose praise is not of men, but of God. 1 Corinthians 7:19 Circumcision is nothing, and uncircumcision is nothing, but the keeping of the commandments of God. Let every man abide in the same calling wherein he was called. Art thou called being a servant? care not for it: but if thou mayest be made free, use it rather. For he that is called in the Lord, being a servant, is the Lord's freeman: likewise also he that is called, being free, is Christ's servant. Ye are bought with a price; be not ye the servants of men. Brethren, let every man, wherein he is called, therein abide with God. There is no Saturday Sabbath Day. Colossians 2:14-16 tells us that the ceremonials laws were nailed to the cross, including the Sabbath Day. Jesus became the fulfillment of what the Sabbath represented in the Old Testament. The Sabbath Day was a ceremonial Law, only for the Jews in the Old Testament. It pictured resting in Jesus Christ for salvation. This is plainly taught in Hebrews 4:1-5... "Let us therefore fear, lest, a promise being left us of entering into his rest, any of you should seem to come short of it. For unto us was the gospel preached, as well as unto them: but the word preached did not profit them, not being mixed with faith in them that heard it. For we which have believed do enter into rest, as he said, As I have sworn in my wrath, if they shall enter into my rest: although the works were finished from the foundation of the world. For he spake in a certain place of the seventh day on this wise, And God did rest the seventh day from all his works. And in this place again, If they shall enter into my rest."

Sundays - Why we Observe Jesus arose upon the first day of the week. Mark 16:2, Luke 24:1, John 20:1 Pentecost by Divine design always came on Sunday. (Lev. 23:15-16) Acts 2 The church was established repentance and remission of sins first preached this Sunday in Acts 2 and they were added to the saved. Acts 2 The early church met on the first day of the week for communion (or to have a meal together and fellowship while hearing Paul teach). Acts 20:7 Early church offerings were directed to be done upon the first day of the week. 1 Corinthians 16:2

Lot of folks don't realize Jesus had a house. Mark 2:1,2 (NASV) When He [Jesus] had come back to Capernaum several days afterward; it was heard that He was at home. And many were gathered together, so that there was no longer room, not even near the door; and He was speaking to them. Mark 2:13-15 And he went forth again by the sea side; and all the multitude resorted unto him, and he taught them. And as he passed by, he saw Levi the son of Alphaeus sitting at the receipt of custom, and said unto him, Follow me. And he arose and followed him. And it came to pass, that, as Jesus sat at meat in His house, many publicans and sinners sat also together with Jesus and his disciples: for there were many, and they followed him. Alphaeus was following Jesus to Jesus' house... Jesus was not following Alphaeus to Alphaeus' house. John 1:38,39 Then Jesus turned, and saw them following, and saith unto them, What seek ye? They said unto him, Rabbi, (which is to say, being interpreted, Master,) where dwellest thou? He saith unto them, Come and see. They came and saw where he dwelt, and abode with him that day: for it was about the tenth hour. In Luke 9:58, and Matthew 8:20 when Jesus said He had no place to lay His head, He was obviously not in His hometown where He lived when he said this. Plus, the He had no favor among the religious jews who would have threatened those that supported Jesus so when He was out of his hometown ministering He would not have been able to rent a room for the evening in most places He visited around Israel. Some of the disciples, apostles, had houses.... Matthew 8:14 And when Jesus was come into Peter's house, he saw his wife's mother laid, and sick of a fever. Mark 1:29-33 And forthwith, when they were come out of the synagogue, they entered into the house of Simon and Andrew, with James and John. But Simon's wife's mother lay sick of a fever, and anon they tell him of her. And he came and took her by the hand, and lifted her up; and immediately the fever left her, and she ministered unto them. And at even, when the sun did set, they brought unto him all that were diseased, and them that were possessed with devils. And all the city was gathered together at the door. Did Jesus own a home in Capernaum? Many have the impression Jesus was an itinerant preacher, traveling from place to place around Galilee preaching the Gospel. However, there is a hint that early on Jesus owned His own house. In Mark 2, we have the account of Jesus being at a house in Capernaum. So many people had gathered that a group of men were forced to cut a hole in the roof to lower their paralytic friend down to Jesus for healing. But notice what Mark says in verse 1: When He [Jesus] had come back to Capernaum several days afterward; it was heard that He was at home. And many were gathered together, so that there was no longer room, not even near the door; and He was speaking to them. (NASV) It talks about this house being Jesus’ home. By the size of the crowd it was obvious Jesus was a bit of a celebrity in the city. This verse also suggests it was not the first time people had gathered at Jesus’ house, as people were waiting for Him to return. We have a similar mention of Jesus’ home in John 1:38-43. This passage records Jesus visit with John the Baptist where he calls Jesus the Lamb of God. Two of John’s disciples (one being Andrew, Peter’s brother) asked Jesus where He was staying. In verse 39, Jesus took the two disciples to His house, where they stayed for the rest of the day and perhaps even over night. It was during this visit that Andrew convinced Peter — who was also living in Capernaum (Mark 1:29) — to visit Jesus at His home. We know from the Gospels that Jesus was born in Bethlehem (Matthew 2:1) but grew up in Nazareth with His parents (Luke 4:16). Matthew adds this tidbit: And leaving Nazareth, He [Jesus] came and settled in Capernaum which is by the sea, in the region of Zebulun and Naphtaill. (Matthew 4:13 NASV). At some point, Jesus moved to Capernaum. He would need a place to live, so he obtained a house or being a carpenter or more probably a stonemason (Mark 6:3) maybe even built His own. We are not told the specifics of Jesus’ living arrangements. In his commentary, William Barclay has this to say about the Greek word “tekton” translated carpenter: The word used for “carpenter” is [@tekton], meaning not a mere worker in wood. It means “a craftsman”, more than merely a joiner. In Homer the [@tekton] is said to build ships and houses and temples. Matthew notes in verse 14 that Jesus’ move to Capernaum fulfilled an Old Testament prophecy (Isaiah 9:1-6) about the Messiah coming from this region. Matthew also adds in verse 17, that it was after His move to Capernaum, that Jesus began His ministry. It appears from a statement made later, that Jesus eventually abandoned His house and traveled around Israel preaching the Gospel: Jesus said to him, “The foxes have holes and the birds of the air have nests, but the Son of Man has nowhere to lay His head.” (Matthew 8:20 NASV) However, Jesus’ ministry basically started off as a simple home group in Capernaum. It was here that Jesus came in contact with four of his disciples — Levi (Mathew), Peter, James and John (Mark 1:29). Shortly after his decision to follow Christ, Matthew had a party at his home (Mark 2:14-17) where he invited many of his coworkers — fellow tax-collectors — to meet Jesus and His disciples. This was possibly a going away party for Matthew, who Luke said left everything to follow Christ. This party at Levi’s home may have marked the transition point, when Jesus moved from a house-based ministry to a national one. But we see several times the group returned to Capernaum, which Matthew describes as “His [Jesus] own city” (Matthew 9:1). It is generally believed they probably stayed at Peter’s house, who we know was married and had his mother-in law staying with him (Matthew 8: 5, 14). But in the end, Jesus would curse Capernaum because of the amount of time He invested in that community and the inhabitants refusal to repent: And you, Capernaum, will not be exalted to heaven, will you? You will descend to Hades; for if the miracles had occurred in Sodom which occurred in you, it would have remained to this day. 24 Nevertheless I say to you that it will be more tolerable for the land of Sodom in the day of judgment, than for you.” (Matthew 11:23-24 NASV).

Tattoos and Body Piercings The Old Testament law commanded the Israelites, “Do not cut your bodies for the dead or put tattoo marks on yourselves. I am the LORD” (Leviticus 19:28). So, even though believers today are not under the Old Testament law (Romans 10:4; Galatians 3:23-25; Ephesians 2:15), the fact that there was a command against tattoos should raise some questions. The New Testament does say we’ve been bought with a price therefore glorify God in your body (1 Corinthians 6:20), so there’s no authorization from the Lord for Christians to put tattoos and body piercings on their body since our body is supposed to belong to the Lord! In relation to tattoos and body piercings, a good test is to determine whether we can honestly, in good conscience, ask God to bless and use that particular activity for His own good purposes. “So whether you eat or drink or whatever you do, do it all for the glory of God” (1 Corinthians 10:31). The New Testament does not command against tattoos or body piercings, but it also does not give us any reason to believe God would have us get tattoos or body piercings. An important scriptural principle on issues the Bible does not specifically address is if there is room for doubt whether it pleases God, then it is best not to engage in that activity. Romans 14:23 reminds us that anything that does not come from faith is sin. We need to remember that our bodies, as well as our souls, have been redeemed and belong to God. 1 Corinthians 6:19-20 directly applies to tattoos or body piercings...“Do you not know that your body is a temple of the Holy Spirit, who is in you, whom you have received from God? You are not your own; you were bought at a price. Therefore honor God with your body.” This great truth should have a real bearing on what we do and where we go with our bodies. If our bodies belong to God, we should make sure we have His clear “permission” before we “mark them up” with tattoos or body piercings. But, no where in scripture does God provide any such permission...

He's good at asking questions that the left does not want asked, which is why they hate him so much. There are people that want to answer this question and do answer this question, but since the liberals hate this sort of thing they get all bent out of shape. This is all tactics used by the maxists to shut down dissent and to train the masses that dissent is not tolerated due to the totalitarian nature of marxism.

So this means you think what the Lord says in Gal 6:7,8 that when one sows to the flesh (sin) they shall reap corruption.... if false? Actually it's posting the plain reading of scripture than some "claim" to be an attack on them personally because it doesn't agree with OSAS technology. I typically speak in general terms and don't direct comments to any one person on a personal level, but instead to the OSAS Community in general. Do you think I should apologize for not snapping to and agreeing with the interpretation of the select few verses the OSAS Community agrees are the only scriptures we need to be looking at? I'm not doing anything the OSAS community isn't doing... I'm simply advocating for what I believe to be true and posting scripture to show it. I'm sorry you're having a bad day and you are obviously upset because others won't agree with the OSAS community. Best thing to do is obtain thicker skin and understand that you cannot expect everyone to agree with what you believe in. Hope your day gets better from here!

Yep, some things we'll see how they play out in the end...

One doesn't get "re-saved" per say after having turned away from the Lord due to sin which causes them to become corrupt. When we sin we reap corruption according to Gal 6:7,8 because we reap what we sow... to say otherwise is mocking God according to Gal 6:7,8 This same passage also says if one sows to the Spirit they will reap LIFE which is why God's Word teaches that IF we sin we should confess and forsake out sin and repent which is coming back to the Lord. I know those that don't accept the whole counsel of God have a really hard time understanding things like this... but it's right there in God's Word and is irrefutable that we reap whatever we sow! Maybe the OSAS community board can go on a retreat someplace and have a big meeting to figure out a way to explain away Gal 6:7,8 without sounding like it's mocking God. Maybe do what the baptists do and form a committee to study the situation

No in the beginning according to Jesus because He said they received the Word. You must have missed all the scripture references showing some Christians do in fact fall away after having been born again... God's Word provides God's own commentary, so no thanks.

Some question gender strife when asked in a way that opposes the credibility of God's Word. Hence the reason some questions go unanswered, and for good reason! Actually, there is a remnant that is very interested in knowing the whole counsel of God as they seek to follow Him as Dear Children after having been converted and have become as a child that... simply accepts what the Lord says, ALL of what He says. That's hilarious! No, I have nothing to do with the catholic cult and I don't believe like they do... I believe like Jesus does, based on His Word! One would have to accept the whole counsel of God to understand, those that don't... don't. Meanwhile... I notice you have no snappy come back for God is NOT mocked, what we sow is what we reap - if we sow to the flesh we shall of the flesh reap corruption. (Gal 6:7,8) That's of course because it's irrefutable Unless of course one wants to mock God!