We've allowed this sin to run rampant in our nation.

[bdavidc]

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Now these things took place as examples for us, that we might not desire evil as they did. Do not be idolaters as some of them were; as it is written, “The people sat down to eat and drink and rose up to play.” We must not indulge in sexual immorality as some of them did, and twenty-three thousand fell in a single day. We must not put Christ to the test, as some of them did and were destroyed by serpents, nor grumble, as some of them did and were destroyed by the Destroyer. Now these things happened to them as an example, but they were written down for our instruction, on whom the end of the ages has come. Therefore let anyone who thinks that he stands take heed lest he fall. No temptation has overtaken you that is not common to man. God is faithful, and he will not let you be tempted beyond your ability, but with the temptation he will also provide the way of escape, that you may be able to endure it.  ~ 1 Corinthians 10:6-13
 

to the intent that we should not lust after evil things. The apostle proceeds to enter into particular instances, in which these things were examples, teaching us to avoid sin, and so punishment; and begins with lust, which is the root and foundation of all sin; all the evil in the world arises from it, and the world itself is full of it, and is in God’s account the same as action: and here he particularly strikes at those Corinthians, that lusted after the feasts in the idols’ temples; and hints that that arose rather from a carnal sensual appetite, which ought not to be indulged, than from any other principle:

as they also lusted; that is, after evil things, the fish, the cucumbers, the melons, the leeks, onions, and garlic of Egypt, Num_11:4 which though they were not evil in themselves, yet the Israelites sinned in lusting after them, in not being content with the manna, the food which God had prepared for them; and besides, their desire after these things did not arise from want, but from a sensual appetite, and was attended with murmuring against the Lord and his servants, and was highly resented; for though the Lord gave them flesh according to their desire, yet while it was between their teeth, he sent a plague among them, by which multitudes were taken off, and the name of the place was called קברות התאוה, “Kibroth Hataavah, the graves of lusts”; the people that lusted being buried there, Num_11:34. ~ John Gill

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[FJK]

Our real sin is calling these evil things good and right and encouraging their practice instead of standing against them.

I think the Bible says something about that.

[JimmyB]

I read the origi9nal post and watched a small part of the video.  I have no idea which particular sin we've allowed to run rampant in our nation.  What are you trying to say, bdavidc?

[Retrobyter]

5 hours ago, JimmyB said:

I read the origi9nal post and watched a small part of the video.  I have no idea which particular sin we've allowed to run rampant in our nation.  What are you trying to say, bdavidc?

Shalom, JimmyB.

I think you just missed it in his first post: He mentioned sexual immorality. That IS the #1 plague in the USA. "Sexual immorality" is ANY sexual act outside of the sanctioned scope of the God-ordained marriage bed between a man and a woman who have vowed before God to keep themselves only for each other. For a man, it provides the stability he needs, and for a woman, it provides the security she needs. True love, after all, is NOT an emotion. It is a COMMITMENT to one another. It may LEAD to the emotion one calls "love" today, but the emotion is not the basis for the concept.

[JimmyB]

13 hours ago, Retrobyter said:

Shalom, JimmyB.

I think you just missed it in his first post: He mentioned sexual immorality. That IS the #1 plague in the USA. "Sexual immorality" is ANY sexual act outside of the sanctioned scope of the God-ordained marriage bed between a man and a woman who have vowed before God to keep themselves only for each other. For a man, it provides the stability he needs, and for a woman, it provides the security she needs. True love, after all, is NOT an emotion. It is a COMMITMENT to one another. It may LEAD to the emotion one calls "love" today, but the emotion is not the basis for the concept.

a) It s NOT the #1 plague in the USA.  Violent crime far exceeds it.

b) I have been married for 54 years.  My marriage is, and always has been, based on LOVE.  Without love commitment is too weak to sustain a marriage.

[Marathoner]

I agree with JimmyB on this one. What was the #1 plague in the United States in 2022? Drug trafficking. This is followed by assault, driving under the influence of alcohol and/or drugs, armed robbery, and fraud (scams/identity theft/et. al.). As the scripture tells us, 

“There is no righteous person, not even one;
There is no one who understands,
There is no one who seeks out God;
They have all turned aside, together they have become corrupt;
There is no one who does good,
There is not even one.”
“Their throat is an open grave,
With their tongues they keep deceiving,”
“The venom of asps is under their lips”;
“Their mouth is full of cursing and bitterness”;
“Their feet are swift to shed blood,
Destruction and misery are in their paths,
And they have not known the way of peace.”
“There is no fear of God before their eyes.”
(Romans 3:11-18 NASB)

[Retrobyter]

12 minutes ago, JimmyB said:

a) It s NOT the #1 plague in the USA.  Violent crime far exceeds it.

Shalom, JimmyB.

It may not SEEM as bad, but it is FAR WORSE! We've allowed the public opinion to go NUTS with all the gender confusion and the homosexuality and the promiscuity and the fornication and the adultery and the pornography and the inuendos in the movies and comics and the outright boldness of the evil twisting of the BEAUTIFUL sexual relationship between a husband and a wife in marriage. In the home, sex may not be first, but it is the "icing on the cake" of the trust and mutual putting each above the other! Putting the other first is the very definition of "commitment!" One is COMMITTED to the well-being and happiness of one's spouse!

Some have erroneously said that "marriage is a 50%-5o% partnership." It's actually a "100%-100% partnership!" The husband is 100% committed to the health, well-being, and happiness of his wife, and the wife is 100% committed to the health, well-being, and happiness of her husband! THAT'S what works and how it should always be. The FEELINGS of love may start out as feeling of infatuation that people call "love" today, but the feelings are SECONDARY to the DECISION to make the commitment that is TRUE love. This is why the old traditions of having arranged marriages worked, even if the couple didn't love each other at first. However, a couple can grow into the feelings of love over time, especially as each proves trustworthy to the other.

12 minutes ago, JimmyB said:

b) I have been married for 54 years.  My marriage is, and always has been, based on LOVE.  Without love commitment is too weak to sustain a marriage.

I'm glad you've had such a relationship in your marriage. I believe the statistics now are about 1 in 3 marriages will end in divorce. But, God HATES divorce!

Matthew 17:3-9 (KJV)

3 The Pharisees also came unto him, tempting him, and saying unto him,

"Is it lawful for a man to put away his wife for every cause?"

4 And he answered and said unto them,

"Have ye not read, that he which made them at the beginning made them male and female, 5 And said, 'For this cause shall a man leave father and mother, and shall cleave to his wife: and they twain shall be one flesh'? 6 Wherefore they are no more twain, but one flesh. What therefore God hath joined together, let not man put asunder."

7 They say unto him,

"Why did Moses then command to give a writing of divorcement, and to put her away?"

8 He saith unto them,

"Moses because of the hardness of your hearts suffered you to put away your wives: but from the beginning it was not so. 9 And I say unto you, Whosoever shall put away his wife, except it be for fornication, and shall marry another, committeth adultery: and whoso marrieth her which is put away doth commit adultery."

Divorce doesn't truly "undo" a marriage once made between two people in God's sight, while they are both still living. They are just estranged and separated. The one "exception," "except it be for fornication," is simply put there because it doesn't "MAKE" the person "commit adultery"; the "fornication" did that already!

[JimmyB]

1 hour ago, Retrobyter said:

Shalom, JimmyB.

It may not SEEM as bad, but it is FAR WORSE! We've allowed the public opinion to go NUTS with all the gender confusion and the homosexuality and the promiscuity and the fornication and the adultery and the pornography and the inuendos in the movies and comics and the outright boldness of the evil twisting of the BEAUTIFUL sexual relationship between a husband and a wife in marriage. In the home, sex may not be first, but it is the "icing on the cake" of the trust and mutual putting each above the other! Putting the other first is the very definition of "commitment!" One is COMMITTED to the well-being and happiness of one's spouse!

Some have erroneously said that "marriage is a 50%-5o% partnership." It's actually a "100%-100% partnership!" The husband is 100% committed to the health, well-being, and happiness of his wife, and the wife is 100% committed to the health, well-being, and happiness of her husband! THAT'S what works and how it should always be. The FEELINGS of love may start out as feeling of infatuation that people call "love" today, but the feelings are SECONDARY to the DECISION to make the commitment that is TRUE love. This is why the old traditions of having arranged marriages worked, even if the couple didn't love each other at first. However, a couple can grow into the feelings of love over time, especially as each proves trustworthy to the other.

I'm glad you've had such a relationship in your marriage. I believe the statistics now are about 1 in 3 marriages will end in divorce. But, God HATES divorce!

Matthew 17:3-9 (KJV)

3 The Pharisees also came unto him, tempting him, and saying unto him,

"Is it lawful for a man to put away his wife for every cause?"

4 And he answered and said unto them,

"Have ye not read, that he which made them at the beginning made them male and female, 5 And said, 'For this cause shall a man leave father and mother, and shall cleave to his wife: and they twain shall be one flesh'? 6 Wherefore they are no more twain, but one flesh. What therefore God hath joined together, let not man put asunder."

7 They say unto him,

"Why did Moses then command to give a writing of divorcement, and to put her away?"

8 He saith unto them,

"Moses because of the hardness of your hearts suffered you to put away your wives: but from the beginning it was not so. 9 And I say unto you, Whosoever shall put away his wife, except it be for fornication, and shall marry another, committeth adultery: and whoso marrieth her which is put away doth commit adultery."

Divorce doesn't truly "undo" a marriage once made between two people in God's sight, while they are both still living. They are just estranged and separated. The one "exception," "except it be for fornication," is simply put there because it doesn't "MAKE" the person "commit adultery"; the "fornication" did that already!

Adultery is far worse than violent crime?  Really? You can be put in jail for the rest of your life or even executed for murdering someone.  There is no such penalty for adultery.

[Retrobyter]

8 hours ago, JimmyB said:

Adultery is far worse than violent crime?  Really? You can be put in jail for the rest of your life or even executed for murdering someone.  There is no such penalty for adultery.

Sbalom, JimmyB.

And yet, it's just as harmful! If anything, it's BECAUSE one can't be put in jail for the rest of one's life that it's so bad! It tears up relationships and families; it causes deep distrust and hurt; it causes children to be without fathers or mothers; it causes MANY other murders! To explain this last one, if it wasn't for someone wanting to avoid the disgrace of a teenage pregnancy or the "inconvenience" of an unwanted pregnancy, there wouldn't be NEAR so many abortions! Regardless what the courts may say, this is NOTHING OTHER THAN MURDER! And, there are FAR more abortions than violent crimes committed EVERY DAY! Rationalize it any way you want, the killing of babies, no matter how young, is REPREHENSIBLE!

[JimmyB]

15 hours ago, Retrobyter said:

Sbalom, JimmyB.

And yet, it's just as harmful! If anything, it's BECAUSE one can't be put in jail for the rest of one's life that it's so bad! It tears up relationships and families; it causes deep distrust and hurt; it causes children to be without fathers or mothers; it causes MANY other murders! To explain this last one, if it wasn't for someone wanting to avoid the disgrace of a teenage pregnancy or the "inconvenience" of an unwanted pregnancy, there wouldn't be NEAR so many abortions! Regardless what the courts may say, this is NOTHING OTHER THAN MURDER! And, there are FAR more abortions than violent crimes committed EVERY DAY! Rationalize it any way you want, the killing of babies, no matter how young, is REPREHENSIBLE!

Why are you changing the subject?  Abortion is not murder.  It is a medical procedure to terminate a pregnancy and is performed for a variety of reasons.  Frankly, I'm really tired of hearing that argument.  Would you prefer that innocent women die because the fetus is malformed??

Edited August 18, 2023 by JimmyB