transmogrified Posted September 21, 2023 Group: Senior Member Followers: 2 Topic Count: 4 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 795 Content Per Day: 0.51 Reputation: 98 Days Won: 0 Joined: 01/18/2020 Status: Offline Share Posted September 21, 2023 47 minutes ago, Shilohsfoal said: The man of sin doesn't rule the world And it was given unto him to make war with the saints, and to overcome them : and power was given him over ALL KINDREDS AND TONGUES AND NATIONS. He absolutely will have power over the whole world for 3.5 years And he causeth all both small and great, rich and poor, to receive a mark in their right hand or in their foreheads: that no man may buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.. He deceived THE WHOLE WORLD.. THE WHOLE WORLD.. THE WHOLE WORLD.. the ONLY ones he did not deceive was those whose names were in the book of life.. THIS IS NOT OUR PRESENT SITUATION.. THIS WILL HAPPEN BUT HE IS NOT RULING NOW… It is impossible for your relatives to have ever been serving under him when he has not yet appeared on the scene Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shilohsfoal Posted September 21, 2023 Group: Royal Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 153 Topics Per Day: 0.06 Content Count: 5,881 Content Per Day: 2.46 Reputation: 330 Days Won: 1 Joined: 10/22/2017 Status: Offline Share Posted September 21, 2023 (edited) 11 hours ago, transmogrified said: And it was given unto him to make war with the saints, and to overcome them : and power was given him over ALL KINDREDS AND TONGUES AND NATIONS. He absolutely will have power over the whole world for 3.5 years And he causeth all both small and great, rich and poor, to receive a mark in their right hand or in their foreheads: that no man may buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.. He deceived THE WHOLE WORLD.. THE WHOLE WORLD.. THE WHOLE WORLD.. the ONLY ones he did not deceive was those whose names were in the book of life.. THIS IS NOT OUR PRESENT SITUATION.. THIS WILL HAPPEN BUT HE IS NOT RULING NOW… It is impossible for your relatives to have ever been serving under him when he has not yet appeared on the scene The man of sin isn't the one who makes war with the saints.The little horn does. Daniel 7 20 And of the ten horns that were in his head, and of the other which came up, and before whom three fell; even of that horn that had eyes, and a mouth that spake very great things, whose look was more stout than his fellows. 21 I beheld, and the same horn made war with the saints, and prevailed against them; The man of sin is not the little horn . The man of sin who is the king of the north gives a host to the little horn to abolish the daily sacrifice. Daniel 8:12 And an host was given him against the daily sacrifice by reason of transgression, and it cast down the truth to the ground; and it practised, and prospered. You are confusing the first beast with the second. To he second beast of revelation 13 is the host given to the beast.It is that host that will make fire come down out of heaven.It is that host that is under the authority of the two horns which are two witnesses of Jesus.They occupy Jerusalem for 42 months. revelation 13 13 And he doeth great wonders, so that he maketh fire come down from heaven on the earth in the sight of men, Revelation 11 5 And if any man will hurt them, fire proceedeth out of their mouth, and devoureth their enemies: and if any man will hurt them, he must in this manner be killed. As I stated. These are the king of the norths armed forces which are occupying Jerusalem for those 42 months Daniel 11:31 His armed forces will rise up to desecrate the temple fortress and will abolish the daily sacrifice. Then they will set up the abomination that causes desolation. But no,the king of the north does not rule the world.He will cause Jerusalem and the Israeli government to rule over many for those 3.5 years but he doesn't rule the world. 39 Thus shall he do in the most strong holds with a strange god, whom he shall acknowledge and increase with glory: and he shall cause them to rule over many, and shall divide the land for gain. 40 And at the time of the end shall the king of the south push at him: and the king of the north shall come against him like a whirlwind, with chariots, and with horsemen, and with many ships; and he shall enter into the countries, and shall overflow and pass over. after the 1260 days the two witnesses occupy Jerusalem,the king of the south attacks Jerusalem and kills the two witnesses and the armed forces stationed there. Edited September 21, 2023 by Shilohsfoal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transmogrified Posted September 21, 2023 Group: Senior Member Followers: 2 Topic Count: 4 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 795 Content Per Day: 0.51 Reputation: 98 Days Won: 0 Joined: 01/18/2020 Status: Offline Share Posted September 21, 2023 4 hours ago, Shilohsfoal said: The man of sin isn't the one who makes war with the saints.The little horn does. The man of sin IS the son of perdition...so you could say, 'he's the man of sin, or you could say 'He's the son of perdition...' two names for the same guy...also the same with the 'little horn...you could say 'he's the king of the north, or you could say 'he's the little horn..' You could say 'the little horn magnifies himself even to the prince of the host, and by him the daily sacrifice was taken away...' or you could say 'the king of the north will take away the daily sacrifice as in Dan. 11 'and arms shall stand on his part, and they shall pollute the sanctuary of strength, and shall take away the daily sacrifice..' same guy the king of the north or the little horn.. In Daniel 11 he is called the king of the north but he comes to his end at the second coming in 11:45 'he shall come to his end and none shall help him...' this is the same son of perdition / man of sin that is destroyed by the brightness of his coming that Paul talked about...this is the same 'beast that was taken and his body given to the burning flame..' in Dan. 7:11 as the beast who is taken in Rev. 19:20 'and the beast was taken, and the false prophet...these were both cast into the lake of fire burning with brimestone... These are the same guy that gets destroyed at the second coming...the little horn gets destroyed at the second coming...the man of sin is destroyed at the second coming...the beast is destroyed at the second coming...the son of perdition is destroyed at the second coming...the king of the north gets destroyed at the second coming...not 5 different guys...all the same guy... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shilohsfoal Posted September 21, 2023 Group: Royal Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 153 Topics Per Day: 0.06 Content Count: 5,881 Content Per Day: 2.46 Reputation: 330 Days Won: 1 Joined: 10/22/2017 Status: Offline Share Posted September 21, 2023 (edited) 10 minutes ago, transmogrified said: The man of sin IS the son of perdition...so you could say, 'he's the man of sin, or you could say 'He's the son of perdition...' two names for the same guy...also the same with the 'little horn...you could say 'he's the king of the north, or you could say 'he's the little horn..' You could say 'the little horn magnifies himself even to the prince of the host, and by him the daily sacrifice was taken away...' or you could say 'the king of the north will take away the daily sacrifice as in Dan. 11 'and arms shall stand on his part, and they shall pollute the sanctuary of strength, and shall take away the daily sacrifice..' same guy the king of the north or the little horn.. In Daniel 11 he is called the king of the north but he comes to his end at the second coming in 11:45 'he shall come to his end and none shall help him...' this is the same son of perdition / man of sin that is destroyed by the brightness of his coming that Paul talked about...this is the same 'beast that was taken and his body given to the burning flame..' in Dan. 7:11 as the beast who is taken in Rev. 19:20 'and the beast was taken, and the false prophet...these were both cast into the lake of fire burning with brimestone... These are the same guy that gets destroyed at the second coming...the little horn gets destroyed at the second coming...the man of sin is destroyed at the second coming...the beast is destroyed at the second coming...the son of perdition is destroyed at the second coming...the king of the north gets destroyed at the second coming...not 5 different guys...all the same guy... The king of the north is not the little horn There is nothing little about him.Hes a big guy and his country is large unlike the little horn which calls itself by the name Israel.Israel is a very little country and is different that the other ten horns it shares the promised land with. Edited September 21, 2023 by Shilohsfoal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shilohsfoal Posted September 21, 2023 Group: Royal Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 153 Topics Per Day: 0.06 Content Count: 5,881 Content Per Day: 2.46 Reputation: 330 Days Won: 1 Joined: 10/22/2017 Status: Offline Share Posted September 21, 2023 12 minutes ago, transmogrified said: The man of sin IS the son of perdition...so you could say, 'he's the man of sin, or you could say 'He's the son of perdition...' two names for the same guy...also the same with the 'little horn...you could say 'he's the king of the north, or you could say 'he's the little horn..' You could say 'the little horn magnifies himself even to the prince of the host, and by him the daily sacrifice was taken away...' or you could say 'the king of the north will take away the daily sacrifice as in Dan. 11 'and arms shall stand on his part, and they shall pollute the sanctuary of strength, and shall take away the daily sacrifice..' same guy the king of the north or the little horn.. In Daniel 11 he is called the king of the north but he comes to his end at the second coming in 11:45 'he shall come to his end and none shall help him...' this is the same son of perdition / man of sin that is destroyed by the brightness of his coming that Paul talked about...this is the same 'beast that was taken and his body given to the burning flame..' in Dan. 7:11 as the beast who is taken in Rev. 19:20 'and the beast was taken, and the false prophet...these were both cast into the lake of fire burning with brimestone... These are the same guy that gets destroyed at the second coming...the little horn gets destroyed at the second coming...the man of sin is destroyed at the second coming...the beast is destroyed at the second coming...the son of perdition is destroyed at the second coming...the king of the north gets destroyed at the second coming...not 5 different guys...all the same guy... When the kingdom of heaven is taken away from the little horn and given to the saints of God,will you even realize what had taken place or will you be dumbfounded? 24 And the ten horns out of this kingdom are ten kings that shall arise: and another shall rise after them; and he shall be diverse from the first, and he shall subdue three kings. 25 And he shall speak great words against the most High, and shall wear out the saints of the most High, and think to change times and laws: and they shall be given into his hand until a time and times and the dividing of time. 26 But the judgment shall sit, and they shall take away his dominion, to consume and to destroy it unto the end. 27 And the kingdom and dominion, and the greatness of the kingdom under the whole heaven, shall be given to the people of the saints of the most High, whose kingdom is an everlasting kingdom, and all dominions shall serve and obey him. Mathew 21:43 Therefore say I unto you, The kingdom of God shall be taken from you, and given to a nation bringing forth the fruits thereof. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transmogrified Posted September 21, 2023 Group: Senior Member Followers: 2 Topic Count: 4 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 795 Content Per Day: 0.51 Reputation: 98 Days Won: 0 Joined: 01/18/2020 Status: Offline Share Posted September 21, 2023 39 minutes ago, Shilohsfoal said: When the kingdom of heaven is taken away from the little horn The kingdom of heaven was never given to the little horn so it cannot be taken away from him...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transmogrified Posted September 21, 2023 Group: Senior Member Followers: 2 Topic Count: 4 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 795 Content Per Day: 0.51 Reputation: 98 Days Won: 0 Joined: 01/18/2020 Status: Offline Share Posted September 21, 2023 42 minutes ago, Shilohsfoal said: Therefore say I unto you, The kingdom of God shall be taken from you, and given to a nation bringing forth the fruits thereof. This is when God took the kingdom of God away from Israel because they rejected Jesus...ABSOLUTELY NOTHING TO DO WITH THE LITTLE HORN Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shilohsfoal Posted September 21, 2023 Group: Royal Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 153 Topics Per Day: 0.06 Content Count: 5,881 Content Per Day: 2.46 Reputation: 330 Days Won: 1 Joined: 10/22/2017 Status: Offline Share Posted September 21, 2023 28 minutes ago, transmogrified said: The kingdom of heaven was never given to the little horn so it cannot be taken away from him...... Perhaps you don't know where the kingdom of heaven is then.I will give you a hint.The saints will live in that kingdom for 1000 years before Gog attempts to overthrow that kingdom.That kingdom is where the little horn is today. 24 And the ten horns out of this kingdom are ten kings that shall arise: and another shall rise after them; and he shall be diverse from the first, and he shall subdue three kings. 25 And he shall speak great words against the most High, and shall wear out the saints of the most High, and think to change times and laws: and they shall be given into his hand until a time and times and the dividing of time. 26 But the judgment shall sit, and they shall take away his dominion, to consume and to destroy it unto the end. 27 And the kingdom and dominion, and the greatness of the kingdom under the whole heaven, shall be given to the people of the saints of the most High, whose kingdom is an everlasting kingdom, and all dominions shall serve and obey him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shilohsfoal Posted September 21, 2023 Group: Royal Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 153 Topics Per Day: 0.06 Content Count: 5,881 Content Per Day: 2.46 Reputation: 330 Days Won: 1 Joined: 10/22/2017 Status: Offline Share Posted September 21, 2023 30 minutes ago, transmogrified said: This is when God took the kingdom of God away from Israel because they rejected Jesus...ABSOLUTELY NOTHING TO DO WITH THE LITTLE HORN God took the kingdom away from Israel? You talking about the same Israel that dwells in the kingdom of God today? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transmogrified Posted September 21, 2023 Group: Senior Member Followers: 2 Topic Count: 4 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 795 Content Per Day: 0.51 Reputation: 98 Days Won: 0 Joined: 01/18/2020 Status: Offline Share Posted September 21, 2023 19 minutes ago, Shilohsfoal said: God took the kingdom away from Israel? They were the natural branches that were broken off because of unbelief...we were grafted in to the same olive tree...the olive tree is Jesus and they were branches in Jesus, but were cut off and the kingdom of God was taken from them...at the second coming they will be grafted back into the same olive tree when they repent and accept Jesus as their true messiah...meaning of course they will be grafted back into Jesus from whence they were cut off from...Jesus said He is the true vine and we are the branches...the tree is not Israel...the tree is Jesus...they are grafted back into Jesus at the second coming...they were broken off because of unbelief when Jesus came the first time... After Jesus told the PHARISEES this analogy of God taking the kingdom of God away from them they perceived that: HE SPAKE OF THEM...NOT OF THE LITTLE HORN... AND WHEN THE CHIEF PRIESTS AND PHARISEES HAD HEARD HIS PARABLES, THEY PERCEIVED THAT HE SPAKE OF THEM He spake of THEM - HE WAS TAKING THE KINGDOM OF GOD AWAY FROM THEM... Absolutely nothing to do with the little horn.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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