Eating Unclean Food Is an Abomination to the Lord!

[AdHoc]

11 minutes ago, Anne2 said:

The covenants made with Abraham speak of Heirs and inheritance. I do not know what you mean by ratified by blood, and that making it count?

18 Whereupon neither the first testament was dedicated without blood. 19 For when Moses had spoken every precept to all the people according to the law, he took the blood of calves and of goats, with water, and scarlet wool, and hyssop, and sprinkled both the book, and all the people, 20 Saying, This is the blood of the testament which God hath enjoined unto you. 21 Moreover he sprinkled with blood both the tabernacle, and all the vessels of the ministry. 22 And almost all things are by the law purged with blood; and without shedding of blood is no remission. (Heb 9:18–22)

All things between God and man must be dedicated by blood because of sin. Noah sacrificed at the Covenant of the Rainbow. Abraham sacrificed at the Covenant of Promise. Moses sacrificed at the Covenant of Law and Christ's blood sacrifice ratifies the New Covenant of Law.

[Anne2]

13 minutes ago, AdHoc said:

18 Whereupon neither the first testament was dedicated without blood. 19 For when Moses had spoken every precept to all the people according to the law, he took the blood of calves and of goats, with water, and scarlet wool, and hyssop, and sprinkled both the book, and all the people, 20 Saying, This is the blood of the testament which God hath enjoined unto you. 21 Moreover he sprinkled with blood both the tabernacle, and all the vessels of the ministry. 22 And almost all things are by the law purged with blood; and without shedding of blood is no remission. (Heb 9:18–22)

All things between God and man must be dedicated by blood because of sin. Noah sacrificed at the Covenant of the Rainbow. Abraham sacrificed at the Covenant of Promise. Moses sacrificed at the Covenant of Law and Christ's blood sacrifice ratifies the New Covenant of Law.

And????

The covenants are wills of inheritance. It does not confirm to immutability ( ie Change)

So was the covenant made with Moses. 

Heb 7:12  For the priesthood being changed, there is made of necessity a change also of the law.
13  For he of whom these things are spoken pertaineth to another tribe, of which no man gave attendance at the altar.
18  For there is verily a disannulling of the commandment going before for the weakness and unprofitableness thereof.
19  For the law made nothing perfect, but the bringing in of a better hope did; by the which we draw nigh unto God.
20  And inasmuch as not without an oath he was made priest:
21  (For those priests were made without an oath; but this with an oath by him that said unto him, The Lord sware and will not repent, Thou art a priest for ever after the order of Melchisedec:)
22  By so much was Jesus made a surety of a better testament.
 

Edited November 13, 2023 by Anne2

[Anne2]

Just now, Anne2 said:

And???? It does not confirm to immutability ( ie Change)

So was the covenant made with Moses. 

Heb 7:12  For the priesthood being changed, there is made of necessity a change also of the law.
13  For he of whom these things are spoken pertaineth to another tribe, of which no man gave attendance at the altar.
18  For there is verily a disannulling of the commandment going before for the weakness and unprofitableness thereof.
19  For the law made nothing perfect, but the bringing in of a better hope did; by the which we draw nigh unto God.
20  And inasmuch as not without an oath he was made priest:
21  (For those priests were made without an oath; but this with an oath by him that said unto him, The Lord sware and will not repent, Thou art a priest for ever after the order of Melchisedec:)
22  By so much was Jesus made a surety of a better testament.
 

God can repent (though not like a man does)

God will not turn from an oath. It is sure!

[Anne2]

21 minutes ago, Anne2 said:

God can repent (though not like a man does)

God will not turn from an oath. It is sure!

Furthermore, speaking of the covenants made with Abraham as wills of inhertance. As A will of inhertance.

Heb 9:16  For where a testament is, there must also of necessity be the death of the testator.
17  For a testament is of force after men are dead: otherwise it is of no strength at all while the testator liveth.
18  Whereupon neither the first testament was dedicated without blood.

Is that not what we are to do here

The death of the Lord gave it force/strength........Do we shew that everytime we partake of the Lord's supper?

1 Cor 11:23  For I have received of the Lord that which also I delivered unto you, That the Lord Jesus the same night in which he was betrayed took bread:
24  And when he had given thanks, he brake it, and said, Take, eat: this is my body, which is broken for you: this do in remembrance of me.
25  After the same manner also he took the cup, when he had supped, saying, This cup is the new testament in my blood: this do ye, as oft as ye drink it, in remembrance of me.
26  For as often as ye eat this bread, and drink this cup, ye do shew the Lord’s death till he come.
 

Edited November 14, 2023 by Anne2

[Bro.Tan]

4 hours ago, Vine Abider said:

@Bro.Tan as I read your opening post, I immediately thought of what the Lord told Peter.  In Acts 10 Peter saw a vision of all kinds of unclean animals being presented to him, and a voice which kept saying, "Arise Peter, kill and eat!" He responded, "Not so Lord, for I have never eaten anything impure or unclean."  This happened three times (Peter was always getting the x3 treatment!).

What was the Lord's response to Peter?

It's the New Covenant bro . . . the old one is done away with and superseded in Christ.  Hallelujah! 

There was a certain man in Caesarea called Cornelius, a centurion of the band called the Italian band, a devout man, and one that feared God with all his house, which gave much alms to the people, and prayed to God always. He saw in a vision evidently about the ninth hour of the day an angel of God coming in to him, and saying unto him, Cornelius. And when he looked on him, he was afraid, and said, “What is it, Lord?” And he said unto him, “Thy prayers and thine alms are come up for a memorial before God. And now send men to Joppa, and call for one Simon, whose surname is Peter” (Acts 10:1-5) 

The angel of the Lord could have told Cornelius all he needed to know about the Lord, but that would have broken the protocol of God. The word of God is in the hands of Israel and can only be taught by the sons of Jacob (Israel). That's why the angel sent Cornelius, which was a son of Japheth (Gentile), to Peter the Israelite. Cornelius sent two of his servant to find Peter. The Lord prepares Peter before the two servants arrived. Let's skip down to the 9th verse.

On the morrow, as they went on their journey, and drew nigh unto the city, Peter went up upon the housetop to pray about the sixth hour: And he became very hungry, and would have eaten: but while they made ready, he fell into a trance, And saw heaven opened, and a certain vessel descending unto him, as it had been a great sheet knit at the four corners, and let down to the earth: Wherein were all manner of four-footed beasts of the earth, and wild beasts, and creeping things, and fowls of the air. And there came a voice to him, Rise, Peter; kill, and eat. But Peter said, “Not so, Lord; for I have never eaten any thing that is common or unclean.” (Acts 10: 9-14) 

Peter was on the house top and became very hungry, correct? And the Lord showed Peter all different types four footed beasts, creeping things, and fowls of the air. The Lord told Peter kill and eat, correct? But, what was Peter's responds? "Not so, Lord; for I have never eaten any thing that is common or unclean." This vision was shown to Peter three times. Note what the 17th verse states. 

Now while Peter doubted in himself what this vision which he had seen should mean, behold, the men which were sent from Cornelius had made inquiry for Simon's house, and stood before the gate, (Acts 10:17) 

Peter knew that the vision had a deeper meaning. So, what was the Lord trying to show Peter? Let's see what Peter's vision was all about. 

And the morrow after they entered into Caesarea. And Cornelius waited for them, and had called together his kinsmen and near friends. And as Peter was coming in, Cornelius met him, and fell down at his feet, and worshipped him. But Peter took him up, saying, Stand up; I myself also am a man. And as he talked with him, he went in, and found many that were come together. (Acts 10:24-27) 

Pay very close attention to the next verse! 

And he said unto them, “Ye know how that it is an unlawful thing for a man that is a Jew to keep company, or come unto one of another nation; but God hath showed me that I should not call any man common or unclean.” (Acts 10:28)

So, was the Lord telling Peter its okay to eat things that are common or unclean? No! The verse states, "I should not call any man common or unclean." Peter now understood the purpose of the vision, which was the allowance of the Gentiles into the church of God that was set up by Moses in the wilderness. Now that we see Acts chapter ten has nothing to do with the "Dietary law".

[Bro.Tan]

8 hours ago, Mr. M said:

John 6:63 It is the Spirit who gives life; the flesh profits nothing.

The words that I speak to you are spirit, and they are life.

Galatians 5:

16 I say then: Walk in the Spirit, and you shall not fulfill the lust of the flesh. 

7 For the flesh lusts against the Spirit, and the Spirit against the flesh;

and these are contrary to one another, so that you do not do the things that you wish. 

18 But if you are led by the Spirit, you are not under the law.

Ezekiel 36:

26 I will give you a new heart and put a new spirit within you;

I will take the heart of stone out of your flesh

and give you a heart of flesh. 

27 I will put My Spirit within you and cause you to walk in My statutes,

and you will keep My judgments and do them. 

28 Then you shall dwell in the land that I gave to your fathers; 

you shall be My people, and I will be your God. 

29 I will deliver you from all your uncleanness.

Romans 8:

1 There is therefore now no condemnation

to those who are in Christ Jesus, 

who do not walk according to the flesh,

but according to the Spirit.

4 that the righteous requirement of the law

might be fulfilled in us who do not walk

according to the flesh but according to the Spirit. 

14 For as many as are led by the Spirit of God

these are sons of God. 

15 For you did not receive the spirit of bondage again 

to fear, but you received the Spirit of adoption

by whom we cry out, “Abba, Father.” 

16 The Spirit Himself bears witness with our spirit

that we are children of God.

Galatians 5:1 Stand fast therefore in the liberty

by which Christ has made us free, and do not be

entangled again with a yoke of bondage.

I agree with verses, but word of God from Genesis to revelation says 

Ye shall not make yourselves abominable with any creeping thing that creepeth, neither shall ye make yourselves unclean with them, that ye should be defiled thereby. For I am the LORD your God: ye shall therefore sanctify yourselves, and ye shall be holy; for I am holy: neither shall ye defile yourselves with any manner of creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth. For I am the LORD that bringeth you up out of the land of Egypt, to be your God: ye shall therefore be holy, for I am holy. (Leviticus 11:43-45)

Note what the Lord says, "Ye shall not make yourselves abominable with any creeping thing, that ye should be defiled thereby, ye shall therefore sanctify yourselves, and ye shall be holy; for I am holy." If an individual observe the Lord's dietary law, they will be holy, like their God even Jesus. Those that observe this law, along with the other righteous rules of conduct put forth by the true and Living God, are truly sanctified, or set apart from the so-call Roman Christian community. 

The Roman Christian community as the apostle Paul states in I Timothy the fourth chapter in verses one and two, " they speak lies and hypocrisy; having their conscience seared with a hot iron, in other words their brains are burnt clean out of their heads. They take heed to doctrine of devils, thinking if they pray over something that is deemed unclean by the Most High God, it is okay for them to consume. 

If the beast is regarded as an abomination and is eaten it becomes sin. And what is sin? (Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law (I John 3:4). And, when sin is finished it brings forth death. So, how can an individual pray over something that is unclean? They cannot. Why? (He that turneth away his ear from hearing the law, even his prayer shall be abomination. (Proverbs 28:9). A prayer of a sinner is an abomination to the Lord. Some might say, "come on, the Lord wouldn't put a person in the lake of fire for eating swine's flesh (pork).

 

[Bro.Tan]

12 hours ago, Slibhin said:

Actually duck is kosher, it's just not typically part of the Jewish diet.

It's all about the word of God, if people take heed to it. The commandments of God are not hard to keep (I John 5:3) and furthermore, they teach us love in the highest degree. If you love Jesus you will keep his commandments (St. John 14:15). You will not displease the Lord by: Worshipping other gods, having graven images, taking his name in vain, breaking his Sabbath day (which is Saturday not Sunday), or dishonoring your parents. On the other hand, if you love your neighbor as yourself you will not kill him, commit adultery with his spouse, steal from him, falsely accuse him, or covet anything of his. 

This is true love, and if obeyed how much better would our world be? This is why Jesus said that the two greatest commandments are loving the Lord with all your heart, soul, and mind; and loving your neighbor as yourself (Matthew 22:35-40). These two commandments are the foundation of the entire law. Many reject the law, but it is holy, and the commandment holy, and just, and good (Romans 7:12) even today. 

[Bro.Tan]

20 hours ago, Revelation Man said:

For starters my friend, you misconstrue this verse by not understanding what Jesus meant by "FULFILLED". How is it you do not understand Jesus fulfilled all things on the cross? He said, "IT IS FINISHED" for a reason. You somehow see the mention of earth and heaven and do not understand Jesus was merely juxtaposing his teaching against the Universe, yes the Law will be intact, and not will not pass away (just like the Universe) until Jesus fulfills "THE LAW" which requires a Sacrifice for Forgiveness, because we in ourselves are not Righteous, nor can we be. So, NO WORKS we do could ever forgive our sins, in the Old Testament, they were forgiven by FAITH in the PROMISED one to come, whose blood would atone for their sins. So, Jesus fulfilled all. 

So, think this through, why did God forbid Israel from eating certain foods that were bad for them, and certain foods that can be contaminated in the olden times? Because the Messiah had to be birthed through Abrahams seed !! If Israel caught a disease of some type it could have wiped the whole nation out in weeks or a few months. It could have made them unhealthy so they might get conquered, so they had rules. God even understood (of course) germs if any Israeli touched a dead body they had to be quarantined for 7 days and had to wash in the River for 7 days. 

So, those "Laws had a purpose" keep Israel alive as a nation until the Messiah came along to shed his blood for mankind's sin. God had a unique plan, He brought Jesus forth at the best time for the Gospel to be spread across the world. Why?  It is called the Pax Romanus. By the Jewish Disciples having a Roman Citizenship, they could travel to anyplace in the Roman kingdom, remember what they say, "All Roads lead to Rome" so they were great road builders, which made travel far easier. And because the kingdom used the Koine Greek Language throughout the Roman kingdom, all men pretty much could understand Jewish Disciples preach, and thus the Gospel could be heard by men's hearts. So, in all things God knows what He is doing. So, why are we no longer under "The Laws of Moses"? Because THE PROMISE was the original Covenant, not the Law did you know that? 

The Law came 430 years after the promise, as Galatians chapter 3 tells us. So, why was the aw given? Because of sin. But Gal. 3 says once the Messiah has come the "School Master" is no longer needed.

Gal. 3:23 But before faith came, we were kept under the law, shut up unto the faith which should afterwards be revealed. 24 Wherefore the law was our schoolmaster to bring us unto Christ, that we might be justified by faith.25 But after that faith is come, we are no longer under a schoolmaster.

So, we are now, NO LONGER under the Law once the PROMISED Messiah is come.

The Dietary laws had a reason, keep Israel alive until the Messiah is birthed. Well, the Messiah has now come, if a person wants to eat food that may not be good f0r them, like pork, go ahead, learn how to cook it properly, and if you die, well it will not have kept the Messiah from coming, so if you want to eat it, and ask God to bless the food. Also, with modern tech. even 2000 years ago, they understood better how to prepare meats better and how to cure them better than they did 1500 years before. Now, we know much, much more, we understand what germs are etc. so the dietary laws had a unique reason at the time. God did not just put them in there to make Israel obey Him.

Let's take a good at (Gal. 3:1, 13, 16-17, 19, 24) (v.1) O FOOLISH Ga-la’-tians, who hath bewitched you, that ye should not obey the truth, before whose eyes Jesus Christ hath been evidently set forth, crucified among you? (v.13) Christ hath redeemed us from the curse of the law, being made a curse for us: for it is written, CURSED IS EVERYONE THAT HANGETH ON A TREE: What law is this talking about? Let the bible speak for itself.

(v.16) Now to Abraham and his seed were the promises made. He saith not, and to seeds, as of many; but as of One, AND TO THY SEED, which is Christ. (v.17) And this I say, that the covenant, that was confirmed before of God in Christ, the law, which was four hundred and thirty years after, cannot disannul, that it should make the promise of none effect.

Now pay attention, the law that is being spoken of here came four hundred and thirty years after this covenant. But God’s holy commandments have been around forever even before man was created. Remember that Satan was kicked out of heaven because iniquity (sin) was found in him. And what is sin? The transgression of the law (commandments). Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law. Now we have just read the biblical definition of sin, the transgression (breaking) of the law (commandments.) It doesn’t matter what you or I think sin is, it’s what God says sin is that counts. (1John 3:4)

(v.19) Wherefore then serveth the law? A question is being asked here. Then why should we serve this law? It was added because of transgression, till the seed should come to whom the promise was made; the law that we are talking about here was added because of sin. But we now know that sin is the transgression of the law. 

How do you add a law if sin is the transgression of the law? Because there are two sets of laws, you have God’s holy commandments which abided forever, and you had the animal sacrificial law which was added because of sin, but it was only good until the seed should come to whom the promise was made, and that seed was Jesus. 

(v.24) Wherefore the law was our schoolmaster to bring us unto Christ, that we might be justified by faith. This animal sacrificial law was only a schoolmaster. 

And this schoolmaster taught you that when you sinned in ignorance blood had to be shed (an animal sacrificed). But Christ being the ultimate sacrifice shed his precious blood once and for all, and by doing this putting an end to the animal sacrificial law. 

Paul says in Romans 3:31   Do we then make void the law through faith? God forbid: yea, we establish the law. So when you quoted all the places in the Bible that do away with this animal sacrificial law, not understanding that Paul talks about two sets of law. The Royal law (Ten Commandments) and the animal sacrificial law sometimes in the same verse you bring can bring destruction to yourself not knowing which law is which. 

[tim_from_pa]

On 11/12/2023 at 5:13 PM, Bro.Tan said:

Remember brothers and sisters Jesus, states in Matthew 5 and verse 18, "For verily I say unto you, till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled." We still have the heavens and the earth, correct? Those things indicate that the Lord's law still remains in tact. Those that read the Bible know that all has not been fulfilled, so His laws and statutes must be kept. Those individuals try to uses Paul's writings to come to that conclusion. (As also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things; in which are some things hard to be understood, which they that are unlearned and unstable wrest, as they do also the other scriptures, unto their own destruction. II Peter 3:16) The unquestionable fact is that the law of sacrifice was nailed to the cross, which was our schoolmaster to bring us onto Christ.

Now, let's take a look at the dietary law. We will begin in Leviticus the 11th chapter and start at the first verse. 

And the LORD spake unto Moses and to Aaron, saying unto them, Speak unto the children of Israel, saying, “These are the beasts which ye shall eat among all the beasts that are on the earth. Whatsoever parteth the hoof, and is clovenfooted, and cheweth the cud, among the beasts, that shall ye eat.” (Leviticus 11:1-3)

Note what the Lord says to Moses, "Whatsoever parteth the hoof, and is clovenfooted, and cheweth the cud, among the beasts, that shall ye eat." Here the Lord gives us a description of the beast that we can eat. We may not know what a particular animal is, but by using this description we know if the beast is clean or unclean. Let's take a look at the beast that we shall not eat. 

Nevertheless these shall ye not eat of them that chew the cud, or of them that divide the hoof: as the camel, because he cheweth the cud, but divideth not the hoof; he is unclean unto you. And the coney, because he cheweth the cud, but divideth not the hoof; he is unclean unto you. And the hare (rabbit), because he cheweth the cud, but divideth not the hoof; he is unclean unto you. And the swine (pig, pork), though he divide the hoof, and be clovenfooted, yet he cheweth not the cud; he is unclean to you. Of their flesh shall ye not eat, and their carcase shall ye not touch; they are unclean to you. (Leviticus 11:4-8) 

These are the beasts that shall not be eaten. Why? Because the Lord said so! Take a look at this verse in the book of St. John. Ye are my friends, if ye do whatsoever I command you (John 15:14). So, if an individual call themselves a Christian or a friend of Christ, the swine (pig) should never be on your dinner plate or anything else that the Lord deems unclean. Remember that Christ is the ONE that gave the dietary law. Remember Christ was the Rock that followed our fathers in the cloud in the wilderness (1 Corinthians 10:4). Remember, He is the Lord and He change not. Remember Jesus is the same yesterday, today and forever Hebrews 13:8)! It has nothing to do with an animal being a scavenger or anything else.

It has to do with thus say the Lord. He is the one that created us, HE knows what's good or not for His creation. Let's continue; 

These shall ye eat of all that are in the waters: whatsoever hath fins and scales in the waters, in the seas, and in the rivers, them shall ye eat. (Leviticus 11:9) 

If the fish has fins and scales it can be eaten. And if it doesn't we can’t. 

And all that have not fins and scales in the seas, and in the rivers, of all that move in the waters, and of any living thing which is in the waters, they shall be an abomination unto you: They shall be even an abomination unto you; ye shall not eat of their flesh, but ye shall have their carcasses in abomination. Whatsoever hath no fins nor scales in the waters, that shall be an abomination unto you. (Leviticus 11:10-12) 

So, no shellfish. You know the lobster, the crab, crayfish, oysters, snails, shrimps, etc. Those of you that like to eat catfish, it must not be eaten. The catfish has fins but it doesn't have scales. The Lord Jesus says these creatures are an abomination onto you and they shall not be eaten. 

Let's take a look at the fowl. 

And these are they which ye shall have in abomination among the fowls; they shall not be eaten, they are an abomination: the eagle, and the ossifrage, and the osprey, And the vulture, and the kite after his kind; Every raven after his kind; And the owl, and the night hawk, and the cuckoo, and the hawk after his kind, And the little owl, and the cormorant, and the great owl, And the swan, and the pelican, and the gier eagle, And the stork, the heron after her kind, and the lapwing, and the bat. All fowls that creep, going upon all four, shall be an abomination unto you. (Leviticus 11:13-20)

Those of us that like to eat duck; it is an abomination. The duck is in the swan family. Let's continue; 

Yet these may ye eat of every flying creeping thing that goeth upon all four, which have legs above their feet, to leap withal upon the earth; Even these of them ye may eat; the locust after his kind, and the bald locust after his kind, and the beetle after his kind, and the grasshopper after his kind. (Leviticus 11:21-22) 

Those are the insects that can be eaten. 

But all other flying creeping things, which have four feet, shall be an abomination unto you. And for these ye shall be unclean: whosoever toucheth the carcase of them shall be unclean until the even. And whosoever beareth ought of the carcase of them shall wash his clothes, and be unclean until the even. The carcases of every beast which divideth the hoof, and is not clovenfooted, nor cheweth the cud, are unclean unto you: every one that toucheth them shall be unclean. (Leviticus 11:23-26)

Note what the Lord says, "Whosoever toucheth the carcase of them shall be unclean until the even." If an individual touch the carcass or dead body of one of these beast, they will be unclean until sundown. They must wash the clothes that they were wearing and also bath themselves. Let's continue;

And whatsoever goeth upon his paws, among all manner of beasts that go on all four, those are unclean unto you: whoso toucheth their carcase shall be unclean until the even. And he that beareth the carcase of them shall wash his clothes, and be unclean until the even: they are unclean unto you. (Leviticus 11:27-28) 

Note what the verse says, "whatsoever goeth upon his paws." Individuals that eat the opossum, raccoon and the squirrel. Those beasts are unclean unto you and must not be eaten or touch if they are dead. So we see clearly what the Lord deems clean and unclean, what shall be eaten and what should not be eaten. The Lord gives a clear description of the beats just incase we are not sure what a particular animal is. 

Let, skip down to the 43rd verse, PAY CLOSE ATTENTION TO WHAT THE LORD TELLS MOSES! 

Ye shall not make yourselves abominable with any creeping thing that creepeth, neither shall ye make yourselves unclean with them, that ye should be defiled thereby. For I am the LORD your God: ye shall therefore sanctify yourselves, and ye shall be holy; for I am holy: neither shall ye defile yourselves with any manner of creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth. For I am the LORD that bringeth you up out of the land of Egypt, to be your God: ye shall therefore be holy, for I am holy. (Leviticus 11:43-45)

Note what the Lord says, "Ye shall not make yourselves abominable with any creeping thing, that ye should be defiled thereby, ye shall therefore sanctify yourselves, and ye shall be holy; for I am holy." If an individual observe the Lord's dietary law, they will be holy, like their God even Jesus. Those that observe this law, along with the other righteous rules of conduct put forth by the true and Living God, are truly sanctified, or set apart from the so-call Roman Christian community. 

 

I'm with you on this and have been eating clean meats for quite some time now.  I think the issue with a lot of Christians is the idea of the "Law being done away with".  The part where Paul said we are not under the Law is the Levitical Law of sacrifice.  Although the Bible says the offerer was forgiven, that does not replace what Christ did as being forgiven is not the same as being a new creation in Christ. Thus the sacrifice of Jesus Christ is superior since we not only have forgiveness (by Him bearing our sins) but we get the righteousness of Christ, i.e. we will become new Creations. When God forgives someone, that does not make the person become a new creation in and of itself as in the Levitical Law.  That said, while this method is not the means of our salvation today (not that there was salvation in the Levitical Law), the Law describing righteousness is very much in effect yet. Starting with the 10 commandments and then similar Laws are standards of righteousness we must follow. Of course, we don't work for that righteousness, but rather it's the Spirit that enables us to do that. i.e. whose works?  In that regard, while I am not a SDA, I like their stance on "ceremonial Law" and "moral Law", the latter being in effect yet.  Back to the clean meats.  I think some Christians seem to think that what we eat is under the "ceremonial" whereas people like myself would classify it as moral Law the same as thou shalt not steal or whatever.  I could be wrong, or they may be wrong.  I don't push it onto my family or friends I know.  But they also understand my stance.

[Mr. M]

35 minutes ago, Bro.Tan said:

I agree with verses, but word of God from Genesis to revelation says 

Ye shall not make yourselves abominable with any creeping thing that creepeth, neither shall ye make yourselves unclean with them, that ye should be defiled thereby. For I am the LORD your God: ye shall therefore sanctify yourselves, and ye shall be holy; for I am holy: neither shall ye defile yourselves with any manner of creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth. For I am the LORD that bringeth you up out of the land of Egypt, to be your God: ye shall therefore be holy, for I am holy. (Leviticus 11:43-45)

Note what the Lord says, "Ye shall not make yourselves abominable with any creeping thing, that ye should be defiled thereby, ye shall therefore sanctify yourselves, and ye shall be holy; for I am holy." If an individual observe the Lord's dietary law, they will be holy, like their God even Jesus. Those that observe this law, along with the other righteous rules of conduct put forth by the true and Living God, are truly sanctified, or set apart from the so-call Roman Christian community. 

The Roman Christian community as the apostle Paul states in I Timothy the fourth chapter in verses one and two, " they speak lies and hypocrisy; having their conscience seared with a hot iron, in other words their brains are burnt clean out of their heads. They take heed to doctrine of devils, thinking if they pray over something that is deemed unclean by the Most High God, it is okay for them to consume. 

If the beast is regarded as an abomination and is eaten it becomes sin. And what is sin? (Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law (I John 3:4). And, when sin is finished it brings forth death. So, how can an individual pray over something that is unclean? They cannot. Why? (He that turneth away his ear from hearing the law, even his prayer shall be abomination. (Proverbs 28:9). A prayer of a sinner is an abomination to the Lord. Some might say, "come on, the Lord wouldn't put a person in the lake of fire for eating swine's flesh (pork).

 

I know the Torah well brother, it is the wisdom of God. It is not a path to righteousness. I am from Louisiana, and I don't eat shrimp or crabs because they are nasty. The world has advanced knowledge and understanding concerning diet which confirms what God has always known. Preaching the Law contradicts the apostolic doctrine. The Holy Spirit is the Lord, and the Voice by which we know God. That is where every believer's heart, mind, soul, and strength should be directed. Not towards the uncleanness of eating road kill. Not in keeping a Law that was given to separate a people from heathen influence, and defile the land given them. The Presence of the Lord is in the heart, and our sanctification is actually much stricter in remaining unspotted by the world. Our Law is Charity, from a sincere heart, and a born again purified soul.

1 Peter 1:

22 Since you have purified your souls in obeying the truth through the Spirit in sincere love of the brethren, love one another fervently with a pure heart,

23 having been born again, not of corruptible seed but incorruptible, through the word of God which lives and abides forever.

James 1:27 Pure and undefiled religion before God and the Father is this: to visit orphans and widows in their trouble, and to keep oneself unspotted from the world.