FJK Posted January 28 Group: Royal Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 43 Topics Per Day: 0.10 Content Count: 3,349 Content Per Day: 7.51 Reputation: 1,305 Days Won: 1 Joined: 03/01/2023 Status: Offline Share Posted January 28 1 minute ago, Neighbor said: Hi, Just the opposite, it is saying have law, enforce law, do not depend upon a wall as nations have tried to do instead over the many centuries. You don't consider a wall to be enforcing the law? Anyway, land mines would be cheaper and more effective. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neighbor Posted January 28 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 18 Topic Count: 963 Topics Per Day: 0.35 Content Count: 13,740 Content Per Day: 5.04 Reputation: 9,124 Days Won: 6 Joined: 12/04/2016 Status: Offline Birthday: 03/03/1885 Author Share Posted January 28 27 minutes ago, FJK said: You don't consider a wall to be enforcing the law? Anyway, land mines would be cheaper and more effective. No a wall enforces nothing. As to land mines that is a little over the top, and completely unnecessary if sojourners are welcomed while criminals and their customer participants are eliminated or not tolerated, but instead severely punished. Personally I encourage the idea of sojourners, even "Sunbirds" that to this day clog our roadways as they come to my own turf each year, as I profited greatly from that commerce for some many years. Plus I do cherish my becoming a half back now going up to the Appalachian mountains. BUT I cannot just bull my way into a community or nation and insist upon my illegal drugs, be boozed up, and demand free benefits from the pocketbooks of the residents of those places. No wall no matter how tall or long will stop invasions. They are always breached in time. Defense needs be found in the word of God with a "welcome pilgrim" and a handing out of a cup of cool water in the name of our Lord Yeshua. You are welcome to travel through, financing your own way, but not to poison with drugs nor steal nor traffic in captive people. Follow the rules of the land and here ( USA) that means driving on the right please. Well except for Massachusetts where most anything goes, road rules being optional. Lord help us as we continue in our national folly of wall building, instead of building up a national heart of gracious welcoming to neighbor and stranger in the land, demanding only obedience to laws of the land. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FJK Posted January 28 Group: Royal Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 43 Topics Per Day: 0.10 Content Count: 3,349 Content Per Day: 7.51 Reputation: 1,305 Days Won: 1 Joined: 03/01/2023 Status: Offline Share Posted January 28 2 minutes ago, Neighbor said: BUT I cannot just bull my way into a community or nation and insist upon my illegal drugs, be boozed up, and demand free benefits from the pocketbooks of the residents of those places. But that is what the migrants do, and that is what the people of the United States currently are providing them (you'll notice that there is no talk of banning all publicly provided benefits to them and their children until they become adults). We reward them for breaking our laws and welcome and aid them in doing it How many more do you think we can handle? 10, 20, 5o million? Maybe 200 million? We can't take care of our own as it is, and we should take care of our own house, our citizens, first if we want to be of any value as a viable nation. What do you propose we do? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neighbor Posted January 28 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 18 Topic Count: 963 Topics Per Day: 0.35 Content Count: 13,740 Content Per Day: 5.04 Reputation: 9,124 Days Won: 6 Joined: 12/04/2016 Status: Offline Birthday: 03/03/1885 Author Share Posted January 28 8 minutes ago, FJK said: What do you propose we do? 1, Offer opportunity under controlled access rules. Encourage sponsorship of those that want to be part of this land's peoples. 2, Do not enable a bleeding of our nation's financial assets by the outflow of cash by immigrants legal or otherwise to old homelands. 3, Punish severely the enablers of illegal activity, no matter what that activity might be and who is enabling it, that includes elected officials. 3a, Hang a politician or two - well maybe not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FJK Posted January 28 Group: Royal Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 43 Topics Per Day: 0.10 Content Count: 3,349 Content Per Day: 7.51 Reputation: 1,305 Days Won: 1 Joined: 03/01/2023 Status: Offline Share Posted January 28 7 minutes ago, Neighbor said: 1, Offer opportunity under controlled access rules. Encourage sponsorship of those that want to be part of this land's peoples. 2, Do not enable a bleeding of our nation's financial assets by the outflow of cash by immigrants legal or otherwise to old homelands. 3, Punish severely the enablers of illegal activity, no matter what that activity might be and who is enabling it, that includes elected officials. 3a, Hang a politician or two - well maybe not. That's pretty much our current immigration law, why isn't it working? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neighbor Posted January 28 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 18 Topic Count: 963 Topics Per Day: 0.35 Content Count: 13,740 Content Per Day: 5.04 Reputation: 9,124 Days Won: 6 Joined: 12/04/2016 Status: Offline Birthday: 03/03/1885 Author Share Posted January 28 35 minutes ago, FJK said: That's pretty much our current immigration law, why isn't it working? Why? 1, A lack of financial resources being provided for administrative law agencies enforcement of "civil administrative law" for one; 2, A lack of sufficient number of active "Green card" worker permits or similar permit, and instead providing welfare benefits of all sorts without any legal taxable work being performed which also helps fund benefits. 3, Plus the not hanging of a politician or two, as example to other politicians that also engage in family run international crime operations. Well again maybe not. The entirety of earth's population is in flux with hordes of people fleeing from here to there. It is more than a USA southern border problem. It will take determination and lots and lots of money to alleviate the problem. Plus it will take much prayer, thinking, reading of the Bible for personal and national guidance; and just plain hard sacrificial decision making to follow the spirit of the law, the grace and mercy of God much as He provides it to us. So far nations have not yielded to any of that guidance instruction and command. It must start at the individual person level with individuals on their knees in prayer asking for the stamina of will to provide sacrificially for our neighbors, friends, and strangers that sojourn to and within our "unique" lands. Call it revival. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FJK Posted January 28 Group: Royal Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 43 Topics Per Day: 0.10 Content Count: 3,349 Content Per Day: 7.51 Reputation: 1,305 Days Won: 1 Joined: 03/01/2023 Status: Offline Share Posted January 28 10 minutes ago, Neighbor said: , A lack of financial resources being provided for administrative law agencies enforcement of "civil administrative law" for one; Of course, why didn't I think of that. After all, money fro government solves all problems and creates none. I say throw a hundred trillion or so at it and create the paradise we deserve to live in, one with no social, legal or cultural problems to deal with. But I wonder why we didn't have this desperate problem before Biden took office and did things like stopping construction of the wall on his first full day in office and destroying the function of the wall by welding its gates open and such. Oh well, that's probably all just a coincidence isn't it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neighbor Posted January 29 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 18 Topic Count: 963 Topics Per Day: 0.35 Content Count: 13,740 Content Per Day: 5.04 Reputation: 9,124 Days Won: 6 Joined: 12/04/2016 Status: Offline Birthday: 03/03/1885 Author Share Posted January 29 5 hours ago, FJK said: Oh well, that's probably all just a coincidence isn't it? Hi, I don't think so. Almost nothing is coincidental, in fact nothing at all. God is sovereign. There are no rulers that are not appointed by Him. He provides the means, including the monies, the manpower, all by His will, in order to serve and render His good eternal purposes. That all the world is in turmoil today, and not just the USA, is by God's will. As the nations refuse to honor Him, so rewards each. The world's turmoil will increase it seems. And under these circumstances we each will be individually challenged as to how each of us will behave, and do honor to Him blessing Him, or not. I cannot blame any USA president for my own attitudes or actions. I must do as I find God's word and the indwelling holy spirit leads me to do personally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neighbor Posted January 29 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 18 Topic Count: 963 Topics Per Day: 0.35 Content Count: 13,740 Content Per Day: 5.04 Reputation: 9,124 Days Won: 6 Joined: 12/04/2016 Status: Offline Birthday: 03/03/1885 Author Share Posted January 29 And yes it does take money lots and lots of it to run decent government. Example: Can't staff immigration personnel without money, lots and lots of it. Money does come from taxation like it or not. This country (The USA) has treated me well for over 80 years now. I do not mind paying taxes at all. It is a duty and a privilege. Long as there is some consistency in law and regulations business can thrive. It is the erratic emotional upheavals and bizarre sudden dictates of nation's rulers that injure commerce. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
farouk Posted January 29 Group: Royal Member Followers: 8 Topic Count: 26 Topics Per Day: 0.05 Content Count: 6,671 Content Per Day: 12.15 Reputation: 3,403 Days Won: 31 Joined: 11/18/2022 Status: Offline Share Posted January 29 On 1/27/2024 at 8:01 PM, NConly said: I spent time in 27 countries and learned a few things. And somehow spent time in 27 states too. @NConly Well traveled.....(but folks often say also: always glad to come home..) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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