Vine Abider Posted February 10 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 6 Topic Count: 206 Topics Per Day: 0.36 Content Count: 3,498 Content Per Day: 6.15 Reputation: 2,352 Days Won: 3 Joined: 10/25/2022 Status: Offline Birthday: 04/01/2024 Author Share Posted February 10 5 hours ago, farouk said: Here's a good verse: "And David was greatly distressed; for the people spake of stoning him, because the soul of all the people was grieved, every man for his sons and for his daughters: but David encouraged himself in the Lord his God." (1 Samuel 30.6) So one may say David was distressed, but not discouraged . . . 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. M Posted February 10 Group: Royal Member Followers: 8 Topic Count: 743 Topics Per Day: 1.31 Content Count: 3,893 Content Per Day: 6.88 Reputation: 1,802 Days Won: 12 Joined: 10/28/2022 Status: Offline Birthday: 02/18/1956 Share Posted February 10 54 minutes ago, Vine Abider said: If I'm following you correctly (and perhaps I'm not), I believe righteous judgement is not the same as discouragement. I did not mention righteous judgment in this post at all, although I did mention it earlier in another thread. In yours, I was commenting on the parable that the devotional was based on, and that while there is encouragement in the teaching that there is a reward for being faithful in "a few things", there is also a severe warning against being unfaithful. Check it out, I think that is what you will find in the post. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neighbor Posted February 10 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 18 Topic Count: 962 Topics Per Day: 0.35 Content Count: 13,716 Content Per Day: 5.04 Reputation: 9,112 Days Won: 6 Joined: 12/04/2016 Status: Offline Birthday: 03/03/1885 Share Posted February 10 Hi all, God, it seems to me, is on record as getting discouraged by the state of mankind's disobedience, especially by His chosen. If I recall at all correctly He received a plea or two from Moses about his decisions against His chosen, and his decisions to punish them in order to discourage further disobedience by them. He heard Moses and relented, again if I recall correctly he did so more than once. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neighbor Posted February 10 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 18 Topic Count: 962 Topics Per Day: 0.35 Content Count: 13,716 Content Per Day: 5.04 Reputation: 9,112 Days Won: 6 Joined: 12/04/2016 Status: Offline Birthday: 03/03/1885 Share Posted February 10 I do believe ( reached an understanding) that God will discourage us, for good purpose. His good purposes. And that He too gets discouraged in spite of his absolute sovereignty and foreknowledge, even his awesome ability to predestine those that are to be called out to be His own under Jesus through the Holy Spirit. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neighbor Posted February 10 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 18 Topic Count: 962 Topics Per Day: 0.35 Content Count: 13,716 Content Per Day: 5.04 Reputation: 9,112 Days Won: 6 Joined: 12/04/2016 Status: Offline Birthday: 03/03/1885 Share Posted February 10 On a lighter train of thought. There is a very practical modern example of mankind's will being championed. It is in the song by one Frank Sinatra whom seemed delighted to live it- "I did it my way." Much of the world says bravo bravo yes we are going to do it our way. While it may be a beautifully sung song the message is absolutely terrible. The chosen of God do not do it their own way. They submit to God's way, and rejoice in doing that. Being discouraged by the indwelling of the Holy Spirit experience, doing it one's own way becomes anathema. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D. Adrien Posted February 10 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 2 Topic Count: 1 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 483 Content Per Day: 4.20 Reputation: 416 Days Won: 1 Joined: 01/22/2024 Status: Offline Share Posted February 10 2 minutes ago, Neighbor said: On a lighter train of thought. There is a very practical modern example of mankind's will being championed.It is in the song by one Frank Sinatra whom seemed delighted to live it- "I did it my way." Much of the world says bravo bravo yes we are going to do it our way. While it may be a beautifully sung song the message is absolutely terrible. The chosen of God do not do it their own way. They submit to God's way, and rejoice in doing that. Being discouraged by the indwelling of the Holy Spirit experience, doing it one's own way becomes anathema. Psalm 2:1-6 (ESV), may give an answer: 1Why do the nations rage and the peoples plot in vain? 2The kings of the earth set themselves, and the rulers take counsel together, against the LORD and against his Anointed, saying, 3“Let us burst their bonds apart and cast away their cords from us.” 4He who sits in the heavens laughs; the Lord holds them in derision. 5Then he will speak to them in his wrath, and terrify them in his fury, saying, 6“As for me, I have set my King on Zion, my holy hill.” 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vine Abider Posted February 10 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 6 Topic Count: 206 Topics Per Day: 0.36 Content Count: 3,498 Content Per Day: 6.15 Reputation: 2,352 Days Won: 3 Joined: 10/25/2022 Status: Offline Birthday: 04/01/2024 Author Share Posted February 10 11 hours ago, Neighbor said: On a lighter train of thought. There is a very practical modern example of mankind's will being championed. It is in the song by one Frank Sinatra whom seemed delighted to live it- "I did it my way." An older brother I know, has asked that at his memorial I sing a song he wrote to the tune of that Sinatra song, but main lyric is, "And did it Yehweh!" 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neighbor Posted February 10 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 18 Topic Count: 962 Topics Per Day: 0.35 Content Count: 13,716 Content Per Day: 5.04 Reputation: 9,112 Days Won: 6 Joined: 12/04/2016 Status: Offline Birthday: 03/03/1885 Share Posted February 10 You can eat ice cream and sing too? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vine Abider Posted February 11 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 6 Topic Count: 206 Topics Per Day: 0.36 Content Count: 3,498 Content Per Day: 6.15 Reputation: 2,352 Days Won: 3 Joined: 10/25/2022 Status: Offline Birthday: 04/01/2024 Author Share Posted February 11 This morning we were going over Romans 15 and a couple verses jumped out along the lines of this topic: "Through perseverance and encouragement of scripture we might have hope. Now may the God of perseverance and encouragement . . ." Romans 15:4-5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve morrow Posted February 11 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 5 Topic Count: 62 Topics Per Day: 0.04 Content Count: 1,060 Content Per Day: 0.62 Reputation: 376 Days Won: 0 Joined: 09/15/2019 Status: Online Birthday: 07/07/1955 Share Posted February 11 WHO IS IT THAT HAS DISCOURAGED SO MANY FROM SPEAKING THE TRUTH PROVERBS 8:20 I lead in --THE WAY-- of righteousness in the midst of the paths of judgment PROVERBS 12:17 he that speaketh truth showeth forth righteousness but a false witness deceit 2 PETER 2:2 and many shall follow their pernicious ways by reason of whom ---THE WAY OF TRUTH--- SHALL BE EVIL SPOKEN OF --- PSALM 50:16 but unto the wicked GOD saith what hast thou to do to declare MY statutes or that thou shouldest take MY covenant in thy mouth --50:17-- seeing thou hatest instruction and castest my words behind thee ACTS 20:29 for I know this that after my departing shall grievous wolves enter in among you ---not sparing the flock--- --20:30-- also of your own selves ---shall men arise speaking perverse things--- to draw away disciples after them--- PROVERBS 22:20 have not I written to thee excellent things in counsels and knowledge --22:21-- that I might make thee know the certainty of --- THE WORDS OF TRUTH --- that thou mightest answer --- THE WORDS OF TRUTH --- to them that send unto thee JOB 38:2 who is this that darkeneth counsel ---by words without knowledge--- PROVERBS 4:19 ---THE WAY OF THE WICKED--- is as darkness they know not at what they stumble JEREMIAH 9:3 and they bend their tongues like their bow for lies --- but they are not valiant for the truth upon the earth --- for they proceed from evil to evil ---and they know not ME saith THE LORD--- PSALM 15:1 LORD who shall abide in thy tabernacle who shall dwell in thy holy hill --15:2-- he that walketh uprightly and worketh righteousness --and speaketh truth in his heart-- ACTS 10:34 THEN PETER OPENED HIS MOUTH AND SAID --- of a truth I perceive that GOD is no respecter of persons --- --10:35-- but in every nation he that feareth HIM and worketh righteousness is accepted with HIM PROVERBS 8:8 TITUS 3:9 but avoid foolish questions and genealogies and contentions and strivings about the law for they are unprofitable and vain --3:10-- A MAN THAT IS AN HERETICK AFTER THE FIRST AND SECOND ADMONITION REJECT --3:11-- knowing that he that is such is subverted and sinneth being condemned of himself GALATIANS 1:10 for do I now persuade men or GOD or do I seek to please men for if I yet pleased men I should not be the servant of CHRIST 3 JOHN 1:4 I HAVE NO GREATER JOY THAN TO HEAR THAT MY CHILDREN WALK IN TRUTH LOVING THE LORD JESUS CHRIST Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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