Worthy News: South Dakota House passes ban on abortion, challenging co

[O'Dannyboy]

You guys are bashing me as if I was promoting abortion. I believe abortion should be LIMITED to only the most extreme cases. Its the definition of "extreme" that we are at an empasse on. I don't think a minor that has been raped by her father, step-father or whoever should be forced to give birth. Sure, even then that child should be considered alive at conception but we have to choose the lesser of two evils, or perhaps you would rather the child be mentaly scarred above and beyond the rape she had to endure. I am not saying that abortion is a good thing but it has its place as does everything else. I admit I look at it differently than most of you. Considerring the huge numbers of abortions we know occur yearly, would it not be better if they were limited to only the most extreme cases? Yes I consider rape an extreme circumstance. As long as the fetus does not suffer I see no need to force any woman to give birth to a child concieved under such circumstances. This does not mean that I aprove of ANY abortion as long as the fetus does not suffer. Try not to make me out to be a bad person because I show an equal amount of pity on both the fetus and the rape victim. This is the one circumstance where I feel the woman should be allowed to choose. Rape and risk to the mother are the only abortions I could concievably consider permissable/necessary.

[Joe@actsii]

Do you consider the murder of a helpless child the lesser of two evils?

[O'Dannyboy]

And higher values will never be commonplace if we have mindsets such as yours that promotes compromise and bows to popular opinion instead of boldly standing for what is right.

BTW Tess I resent your attacking me as if I were saying ALL abortions should be legal. I only said that rape victims deserve some compassion too. This may be a sensitive subject for you but try directing your anger at someone who actually deserves it.

[O'Dannyboy]

Do you consider the murder of a helpless child the lesser of two evils?

Are you saying that all rape victims should have to give birth to an illigitimate child?

[Joe@actsii]

Do you consider the murder of a helpless child the lesser of two evils?

Are you saying that all rape victims should have to give birth to an illigitimate child?

It is not a matter of whether a rape victim should have to give birth, it is a questions of

[Joe@actsii]

Why should the baby pay with its life, because its father was a rapist?

[apothanein kerdos]

You guys are bashing me as if I was promoting abortion. I believe abortion should be LIMITED to only the most extreme cases. Its the definition of "extreme" that we are at an empasse on. I don't think a minor that has been raped by her father, step-father or whoever should be forced to give birth. Sure, even then that child should be considered alive at conception but we have to choose the lesser of two evils, or perhaps you would rather the child be mentaly scarred above and beyond the rape she had to endure. I am not saying that abortion is a good thing but it has its place as does everything else. I admit I look at it differently than most of you. Considerring the huge numbers of abortions we know occur yearly, would it not be better if they were limited to only the most extreme cases? Yes I consider rape an extreme circumstance. As long as the fetus does not suffer I see no need to force any woman to give birth to a child concieved under such circumstances. This does not mean that I aprove of ANY abortion as long as the fetus does not suffer. Try not to make me out to be a bad person because I show an equal amount of pity on both the fetus and the rape victim. This is the one circumstance where I feel the woman should be allowed to choose. Rape and risk to the mother are the only abortions I could concievably consider permissable/necessary.

From a Christian perspective, justify what you are advocating. Why is it okay to kill a baby because someone sinned and raped? Which is worse, a rapist or a murderer?

[apothanein kerdos]

Do you consider the murder of a helpless child the lesser of two evils?

Are you saying that all rape victims should have to give birth to an illigitimate child?

Yes, that is exactly what we're saying. There is no such thing as an "illigitimate child." All children, being in the image of God, are legitimate.

[O'Dannyboy]

Ok. So you guys are saying that a woman should, whether or not she wants to, give birth to the rapisists child? Understandably they all have an option to give up the child for adoption which would make sense. I guess, from a Christian perspective, it would make more sense for the woman to have the child and give it up for adoption than to abort the pregnancy and end an innocent life. You must understand that a woman that was raped might, at this point, consider that child an abomination. I cannot simply disregard the mental health of the victim. What would any of you suggest be done for the rape victim? Government funded counciling? There should definately be a law enacted that would secure a womans job should she be required to give birth to this child. Definantely, if there is a law preventing the woman from aborting then the government should pay all her hospital bills also.

[apothanein kerdos]

Ok. So you guys are saying that a woman should, whether or not she wants to, give birth to the rapisists child?

yes.

You must understand that a woman that was raped might, at this point, consider that child an abomination. I cannot simply disregard the mental health of the victim.

By killing the baby you destroy both the mental health AND the physical health of the baby. Likewise, the mental health is destroyed by the raping despite the pregnancy or not. To add to this, if the modern considers the baby an abomination, then she can adopt it out.

What would any of you suggest be done for the rape victim?

Hi church.

There should definately be a law enacted that would secure a womans job should she be required to give birth to this child.

That law is already in place. It's called anti-discrimination laws.

Definantely, if there is a law preventing the woman from aborting then the government should pay all her hospital bills also.

Or the rapist. If her insurance will cover it, then her insurance should.

Listen, children are a gift, even if rape occurs. Rape is horrible, but if a baby is born, why are you treating it as a disformity that the government should have to cover. Nothing, including life, is an accident, and to treat it as such is to devalue God's image in our philosophy.