Dad Ernie Posted March 29, 2006 Group: Royal Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 75 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 2,802 Content Per Day: 0.35 Reputation: 46 Days Won: 0 Joined: 03/29/2002 Status: Offline Birthday: 06/01/1945 Share Posted March 29, 2006 Sometimes it's in God's plan to heal someone earth, other times it works in His plan best if the healing comes in heaven. I strongly, strongly, strongly disagree with people who teach that the reason someone isn't healed is due to lack of faith. For one, this places a tremendous burden and guilt on someone who is already suffering. Two, Scripture teaches us that faith is a gift we get from God, we don't create it ourselves. It comes from Him. Three, this presumes that it takes more faith for a healing than to endure suffering - which isn't true. Sometimes, oftentimes, the most faithful and sincere thing you can do is cling to God and trust Him....even when we don't understand and are afraid. Right on Tess!! Sometimes Jesus healed without having any signs of faith at all. Other times, even gentile dogs (the Centurian) had very great faith. Peter, whom God revealed that Jesus was the Christ, began to doubt as he put his eyes on the storm, instead of Jesus. Satan loves to distract us with every sort of doubt he can think of to throw into the works of our lives. But I look at Joni Erikson Tada as one of the most stout defenders of the faith in our day and age who for the most of her life now has been a parapalegic and boy what a testimony honoring Christ. Sure God could heal her completely AND WILL DO SO ONE DAY, but for now, she serves His purposes wonderfully, bringing great honor and glory to God and His Son. Blessings, Dad Ernie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rania Posted March 29, 2006 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 5 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 269 Content Per Day: 0.04 Reputation: 1 Days Won: 0 Joined: 12/13/2005 Status: Offline Share Posted March 29, 2006 Sometimes it's in God's plan to heal someone earth, other times it works in His plan best if the healing comes in heaven. I strongly, strongly, strongly disagree with people who teach that the reason someone isn't healed is due to lack of faith. For one, this places a tremendous burden and guilt on someone who is already suffering. Two, Scripture teaches us that faith is a gift we get from God, we don't create it ourselves. It comes from Him. Three, this presumes that it takes more faith for a healing than to endure suffering - which isn't true. Sometimes, oftentimes, the most faithful and sincere thing you can do is cling to God and trust Him....even when we don't understand and are afraid. That was beautifully said, Tess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shyguy Posted March 29, 2006 Group: Junior Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 13 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 89 Content Per Day: 0.01 Reputation: 6 Days Won: 0 Joined: 04/06/2004 Status: Offline Birthday: 09/09/1974 Share Posted March 29, 2006 Because God heals whom he wants to ... He has his reasons we must accept them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abigailwc Posted March 29, 2006 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 51 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 499 Content Per Day: 0.07 Reputation: 3 Days Won: 0 Joined: 01/29/2005 Status: Offline Birthday: 08/08/1964 Share Posted March 29, 2006 I agree. We are to come to Him in prayers, asking Him, but the answer is up to God's will. Whatever His answer, we are to be assured that it is for our best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marnie Posted March 29, 2006 Group: Royal Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 811 Topics Per Day: 0.12 Content Count: 7,338 Content Per Day: 1.08 Reputation: 76 Days Won: 2 Joined: 10/06/2005 Status: Offline Share Posted March 29, 2006 Most of the verses people quote referring to healing today actually refer to healing in the world to come. Sometimes G-d intervenes and heals in a miraculous way--I am an example of this. He also heals through medication and doctors. Only G-d can heal somebody; no man can. Just like a farmer plants a seed but he is not the one who makes it grow. We live in a siful and sin cursed world and we are subject to germs and decay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sport123 Posted March 30, 2006 Group: Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 30 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 51 Content Per Day: 0.01 Reputation: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 10/28/2005 Status: Offline Author Share Posted March 30, 2006 Thank you everybody. God bless you all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arthur Durnan Posted March 30, 2006 Group: Royal Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 121 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 2,782 Content Per Day: 0.36 Reputation: 49 Days Won: 1 Joined: 06/14/2003 Status: Offline Share Posted March 30, 2006 I believe in divine healing. I will be absolutely healed of every single illness until the last one. "To die is GAIN!' is it not? http://arthurdurnan.freeyellow.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest br.biff Posted March 30, 2006 Share Posted March 30, 2006 Sometimes it is not the faith of the healee but the faith of the healer that is lacking. Not all instances of healing in the new testament say any thing about the faith of the one being healed. I also disagree with those that say you are sick due to lack of faith. When asked about the blind man and whose sin made him blind (his mother or father or his own) Jesus replied neither,he was blind that the works of God could be made manifest in him(Jn.9:1)Trust Him He knows what He is doing!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest NooPilgrim Posted March 30, 2006 Share Posted March 30, 2006 Indeed Biff. Yeshua even rebuked the apostles calling them a perverse and faithless generation, because their lack of faith, despite their messianic apointment, hindered them from casting out a demon. There is no indication in that passage that it had anything to do with the lack of faith on behalf of the possessed man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rania Posted April 2, 2006 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 5 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 269 Content Per Day: 0.04 Reputation: 1 Days Won: 0 Joined: 12/13/2005 Status: Offline Share Posted April 2, 2006 I believe in divine healing. I will be absolutely healed of every single illness until the last one. "To die is GAIN!' is it not? http://arthurdurnan.freeyellow.com That was good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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