Mormon Missionaries Won't Tell You

[jesusislord]

What the Mormon Missionaries Won't Tell You

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Most of us have had a Mormon Missionary knock at our door. If you have ever invited them in and listened to a presentation of their beliefs, you probably found most but not all of what they said very similar to those beliefs held by Christians. However, while trying to convince you that your Church is wrong and the Mormon Church is right, there are several points they intentionally leave out. Below is a list of Mormon beliefs the missionaries will be reluctant to tell you about:

They will be reluctant to tell you that the God they worship was not always God.

"We have imagined and supposed that God was God from all eternity. I will refute that idea, and take away the veil, so that you may see." (Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith, pg. 345)

They will be reluctant to tell you that they believe Jesus Christ is the spirit brother of Satan:

"The appointment of Jesus to be the Savior of the world was contested by one of the other sons of God. He was called Lucifer, son of the morning. Haughty, ambitious, and covetous of power and glory, this spirit-brother of Jesus desperately tried to become the Savior of mankind." (Milton R. Hunter, Gospel Through the Ages, pg.15)

They will be reluctant to tell you that, according to Mormonism, Jesus Christ was a polygamist.

"I discover that some of the Eastern papers represent me as a great blasphemer, because I said, in my lecture on Marriage, at our last Conference, that Jesus Christ was married at Cana of Galilee, that Mary, Martha, and others were his wives, and that he begat children." (Orson Hyde, Journal of Discourses 2:210)

The grand reason of the burst of public sentiment in anathemas upon Christ and his disciples, causing his crucifixion, was evidently based upon polygamy, according to the testimony of the philosophers who rose in that age. A belief in the doctrine of a plurality of wives caused the persecution of Jesus and his followers. We might almost think they were 'Mormons'" (Jedediah M. Grant, Journal of Discourses, 1:346)

They will be reluctant to tell you that for at least half a century church leaders were teaching that Adam was really God and the only God with whom we have to do.

"Now hear it, O inhabitants of the earth, Jew and Gentile, Saint and sinner! When our father Adam came into the garden of Eden, he came into it with a celestial body, and brought Eve, one of his wives, with him. He helped to make and organize this world. He is Michael, the Archangel, the Ancient of Days! about whom holy men have written and spoken--He is our Father, and our God, and the only God with whom we have to do." (Brigham Young, Journal of Discourses 1:50)

"I have learned by experience that there is but one God that pertains to this people and he is the god that pertains to this earth--The first man. That first man sent his own son to redeem the world..."(Heber C. Kimball, Journal of Discourses 4:1)

They will be reluctant to tell you that Brigham Young, who held the office of President of the Mormon church longer than any other man, taught that men must practice polygamy in order to become Gods.

"The only men who become Gods, even the Sons of God, are those who enter into polygamy." (Journal of Discourses 11:269)

They will be reluctant to tell you that the book of Mormon fails to contain any Mormon doctrine

Many portions of this Mormon Scripture even contradicts Mormon theology.

They will be reluctant to tell you about their secret temple ceremonies which, until April 1990, portrayed Christian ministers as hirelings of Satan. Nor will they tell you about the sacred underwear they are wearing which, they believe, actually protects them.

They will be reluctant to tell you that Mormon leaders have taught that Jesus was conceived by way of a sexual relationship between God and Mary.

"..how are children begotten? I answer just as Jesus Christ was begotten of his father. The difference between Jesus Christ and other men is this: Our fathers in the flesh are mortal men, who are subject unto death: but the Father of Jesus Christ in the flesh is the god of Heaven" (Joseph F. Smith, Family Home Evening Manual, 1972, pg. 125)

They will be reluctant to tell you that they believe the bible has been corrupted throughout the centuries and cannot be trusted fully by itself.

"I believe the Bible as it read when it came from the pen of the original writers. Ignorant translators, careless transcribers, or designing and corrupt priests have committed many errors." (Teachings of the Prophet Joseph smith, pg.327)

"But the Bible has been robbed of its plainness; many sacred books having been lost, others rejected by the Romish Church, and what few we have left, were copied and recopied so many times, that it is admitted that almost every verse has been corrupted and mutilated to that degree that any two of them read alike." (Orson Pratt, The Seer, pg.213)

They will be reluctant to tell you that the Book of Mormon and the Doctrine and Covenants, which they claim to be both sacred and without error, contradict each other many times.

For example, in the Book of Mormon, God called David and Solomon's act of polygamy an abomination, whereas in the Doctrine and Covenants He claims to justify it. Jacob 2:24 in the Book of Mormon says, "Behold, David and Solomon truly had many wives and concubines, which thing was abominable before me, saith the Lord." Section 132:1 in the Doctrine and Covenants, however, states: "Verily, thus saith the Lord unto you my servant Joseph, that inasmuch as you have inquired of my hand to know and understand wherein I, the Lord, justified my servants Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, as also Moses, David and Solomon, my servants, as touching the principle and doctrine of their having many wives and concubines."

They will be reluctant to tell you that they use Christian terms with Mormon meanings.

For example, a Mormon would probably agree with you that a person must be born again. To the Mormon, however, "born again" is a process which begins with water baptism. Another example are the words "salvation" and exaltation," which are synonymous in the Christian's mind. However, general salvation to the Mormon merely means the resurrection which everyone in the world will receive at death. Exaltation, or individual salvation, is the reward earned by the Mormon by following the laws of the Moron church. "Eternal Life" to the Mormon means Godhood. Regarding the word "scriptures," the Christian thinks of the Holy Bible while the Mormon could be thinking of not only the Bible but the Book of Mormon, Doctrine and Covenants and Pearl of Great Price as well.

They won't want to tell you that in order to gain entrance into the highest form of Mormon heaven, the Celestial kingdom, you must accept Joseph Smith, Jr. as a prophet of god. Faith in Jesus alone, Mormonism teaches, will force you to spend eternity in a lower form of heaven.

Tenth LDS President Joseph Fielding Smith stated in his book, doctrines of Salvation, that there is "No salvation without accepting Joseph Smith. The word "salvation," used in this context, must really mean "exaltation" because former Mormon apostle Bruce R. McConkie stated in his book Mormon Doctrine that general salvation is given to everyone regardless of belief. Personal salvation or exaltation to the highest form of Mormon heaven comes only by accepting Joseph Smith as a prophet of god and by following the laws of the LDS church.

They will be reluctant to tell you that their founder, Joseph Smith, Jr., made many false prophecies which, according to the Bible, would classify him as a false prophet rather than a true prophet of God.

For instance, in 1835 Smith claimed that the Lord would again come in just 56 years. We would gather from this "prophecy" that Jesus Christ would again come to earth on or before 1891; no doubt Joseph Smith was incorrect (History of the church 2:182). In 1832 Joseph Smith claimed he had a revelation concerning the building of a temple in Independence, Missouri. According to section 84, verses 4 and 5, of the Doctrine and Covenants, he stated this "temple shall be reared in this generation. For verily this generation shall not pass away until an house shall be built unto the Lord, and a cloud shall rest upon it..." to this day the spot consecrated by Smith fails to be the sight of a great temple, but instead is covered with a well-kept lawn. In fact, the Mormon church does not even own the land.

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[hazel]

Two young "elders" of the mormon "church" visited my house about a month ago. I really don't know why I talked to them, maybe I was hoping to witness to them, I don't know... but we talked for about a half an hour. I had heard that they believe that if you're invited to this "temple" they have somewhere, that when you die, you get your own planet to be "god" of. I simply asked these young men to dispell this "myth" for me.They admitted that they couldn't. They said that it's kind of like God's running a business, and he's basicly training managers. ( I guess it's like some cosmic pyramid scheme or something) I was shocked, and sorry for them. But I took it one step further, and asked them if Jesus would have to come and die for the sins of these inhabitants of the other planets, and they said they didn't know. They said that they guessed God would come up with some other plan of salvation . I was so sick! I started crying ... I did tell them that they were preaching "another gospel" like Paul talked about. I had to say that Jesus is enough for me, and I shook their hands, and said goodbye.The speaker of the two seemed to get really angry at this. He said that the thing I had mentioned was one of the churches "deep doctrines" (I guess I wasn't supposed to know about it) and that I had misunderstood. They said that they would leave, but they didn't for what seemed like a long time. Use extreme caution when talking with these boys. What we're dealing with here is spiritual warfare.The only thing that got them to leave was taking one of their mormon books . I did that, and threw it right in the trash after they left, as I prayed for them. I was sad for the rest of the day.

[Born2BFree]

A mormon man presented an exquisite argument in support of the mormon mythology... He said, "I won't comment on all the criticism about mormonism. I will say that people who care will either believe it, or they won't. If they believe it, then all the criticism means nothing at all." I thought this was really a worthy argument that was perhaps lost on a bad cause. However, I have known some first rate human beings who held the confusion of mormonism quite close to their soul. Its a dreadful bondage, but no more deathly than any other. The Mormon Church is the chief investor in Space Industries. This should suprise no one. They want to go colonize other worlds. Perhaps they would be the best fit for such a task.

[IreneM]

there has been a large number of mormans leave the church when they found out threw DNA that the indians of america were not the lost tirbe of Israel...

Seems they felt if Smith lied aobut that he lied about lots of other things.

Just an added note here

when mormans do find out they have been dubed and were worshiping a false God and their beliefs were missguided they for the most part tune out religion all togther for a time . Some try to warn other mormans and if in the state of Utah pay a price for leaving the church. That is sad since this country is based on freedom of religion.

(Except in the state of utah. )

In Christ

IreneM

[Only4Him777]

Thank you Jesusislord and everyone else who has posted here. My husband and I just moved to Murrieta, CA from Dallas, TX. I am so much in shock at how many Mormons are here. We just bought a house here, and I have to tell you, I think at least 98% of the population here is Mormon.

I have never really been exposed to them before. Bradley, my husband, and I are going to try to learn as much as we can on how to witness to Mormons. Apparently, God thought we would be useful in this due to us getting a home here. Hahaha. I can only pray and hope.

Anyway, something that makes it difficult is that they seem to believe they are saved and they "believe" in Jesus. It makes it a little more difficult to decifer truth to them. There is a lot to learn, so all of your input regarding this topic is greatly appreciated!

Does anyone have any thoughts on other points to cover? I noticed that the church we are going to this Sunday is starting a class in November on how to witness to Mormons. Whatever info. I pick up there, I will pass along.

Thanks again for your post!

I especially liked your wording here, hehehe:

Exaltation, or individual salvation, is the reward earned by the Mormon by following the laws of the Moron church.

Your sister in Christ,

Alison :hug:

[Az_]

Born2BeFree said

The Mormon Church is the chief investor in Space Industries.

I am always curious about such blanket statements. Could you provide a source for this statement. I find it rather interesting.

[Khristeeanos]

Does anyone have any thoughts on other points to cover?  I noticed that the church we are going to this Sunday is starting a class in November on how to witness to Mormons.  Whatever info. I pick up there, I will pass along.

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I have one.

In an older version of the Doctrine and Covenants the introduction (3rd paragraph) states that Moroni was an angel of light.

In their dictionary/doctrine book (available at any Mormon bookstore) if you look under "angel of light" it says:

See: devil

Sad, I have a copy of this paragraph that was faxed to me by Ron Carlson of CMI.

[Az_]

I will not engage in theological debate on the issue of the Mormons but I will just add this. Mormons don't seem to last very long in atheist debate channels. Their doctrine is not exactly a stickler for history.

[Only4Him777]

Thanks so much DIME Ministries. That is a very interesting and yet scary point. By their own admission they worship Satan. Yikes! How direct can you be, right?!

I am just curious Az, are you atheist? You have a good point that their doctrine can't stand firm, against attack.

I am really glad this thread is here. I will keep checking in to see what else there is that others post. It is one thing to witness to someone who isn't saved and understands that fact due to them not following any god through their understanding... However, it is a bit more difficult to witness to someone who believes they are saved.

I will keep all of you in my prayers, and I ask that you will do the same for me regarding witnessing to Mormons.

Thanks so much!

Your sister in Christ,

Alison

[Az_]

I am just curious Az, are you atheist? You have a good point that their doctrine can't stand firm, against attack.

Yes I am an atheist. I have discussed and debated theological issues with individuals and groups from most denominations and beliefs. Some stand stronger against critical analysis and others fall quickly. It is interesting to note though that no matter the ability to withstand such analysis the participants faith remains fixed. It is not logic or reason that guide belief. It is not reason or logic that can undo belief. But reason and logic are the path that some use when they set aside their beliefs.