terter Posted October 25, 2006 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 14 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 473 Content Per Day: 0.07 Reputation: 2 Days Won: 0 Joined: 10/14/2006 Status: Offline Share Posted October 25, 2006 (edited) HOw have Christians accepted the world's point of view versus living by what the scriptures say? Edited October 25, 2006 by terter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prodigalson123 Posted October 25, 2006 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 2 Topic Count: 22 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 232 Content Per Day: 0.03 Reputation: 24 Days Won: 0 Joined: 10/16/2005 Status: Offline Birthday: 01/22/1965 Share Posted October 25, 2006 (edited) we've accepted too much of it. IMHO if we were serious, we wouldn't go to any commerce centers on Sundays. The reason that businesses are open on Sundays is because there is a demand. We shouldn't be part of that, again in my opinion. Edited October 25, 2006 by Prodigalson123 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EricH Posted October 25, 2006 Group: Royal Member Followers: 3 Topic Count: 366 Topics Per Day: 0.05 Content Count: 10,933 Content Per Day: 1.57 Reputation: 212 Days Won: 1 Joined: 04/21/2005 Status: Offline Share Posted October 25, 2006 What do you mean when you ask "how"? Are you asking what method they used, or their motivation? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spunky Posted October 25, 2006 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 16 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 364 Content Per Day: 0.05 Reputation: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 01/14/2006 Status: Offline Share Posted October 25, 2006 we've accepted too much of it. IMHO if we were serious, we wouldn't go to any commerce centers on Sundays. The reason that businesses are open on Sundays is because there is a demand. We shouldn't be part of that, again in my opinion. You know why they did away with those stupid no commerce on sunday laws? Because they were simply not practical, and they are not even Biblical under the New Covenant. It is NOT possible to manufacture goods any more just 6 days a week. You eat the same amount of food every day of the week whether you go to the mall on sunday or not, and you wear the same amount of clothes. The "demand" for almost everything is the same whether or not there is a law against commerce on sunday. The manufacturing plants can barely meet the demand right now operating 24/7. If you cut a day of commerce, and a day a work, the only thing that happens is all the companies have to make more production lines because demand remains the same, while their operation time is cut by 1/7th, which the extra lines then sit there collecting dust on sundays, then on monday everyone who WOULD have been shopping on sunday goes out and buys the same things. To make production quota in a six day week it takes almost twice as many producution lines and other machines, plus employees, as it does in a seven day work week. By the time you count wasted shut down/start up time, and other factors, half of the sixth day is also lost in a "six day work week". Monday's shipping load is doubled, so it becomes a logistical nightmare trying to load trucks and ships and trains with the goods, and you need twice as many drivers and trucks on monday in a six day work week as in a seven. In a seven day work week, there is no shut down time, so they gain about a day and a half production time by working round the clock, have no wasted personel or equipment, and over all cost of producing the exact same amount of product is cut nearly in half. Other factors. Even people who agreed with these anti-commerce laws often found them hindering their lives. For example. You normally go to church twice on sunday, but your car breaks down on saturday evening. Sunday the auto parts store is closed, so you can't even "do it yourself" repairs to even get to the evening service at church, oh no, you have to wait till monday morning to go get your part, and not only miss both services at church, but also miss a day's work, or part of a day. So not only does the individual suffer, but the company he works for suffers once again, even though they had nothing to do with the original problem in this case. Aside from the car breaking down, I think you have given another good reasons as to why we should be closed for business on Sunday. The unemployment rate will drop even further as these businesses will need more workers, drivers,etc. I'm not seeing a problem with this and would greatly appreciate having my hubby home on Sundays making him available to attend church with his family! God Bless! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billie Posted October 25, 2006 Group: Royal Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 51 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 2,849 Content Per Day: 0.44 Reputation: 14 Days Won: 0 Joined: 07/17/2006 Status: Offline Birthday: 03/17/1979 Share Posted October 25, 2006 HOw have Christians accepted the world's point of view versus living by what the scriptures say? The expectation of wealth....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KOG-Ambassador Posted October 25, 2006 Group: Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 0 Topics Per Day: 0 Content Count: 10 Content Per Day: 0.00 Reputation: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 01/19/2006 Status: Offline Share Posted October 25, 2006 Take a look at the success Chick-fil-A has had and they don't work on Sundays. On the seventh day God rested as an example for us to follow, He knew that we needed rest. When you have more rest you will be more productive. Rest is very important. When you do things God's way, you can be sure it's the best way and you will be blessed by it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Candi770 Posted October 25, 2006 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 119 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 1,316 Content Per Day: 0.20 Reputation: 7 Days Won: 0 Joined: 04/01/2006 Status: Offline Birthday: 07/01/1970 Share Posted October 25, 2006 They are trying to bring people to God, draw them to their churches using the methods of the world and not the simple message of the gospel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billie Posted October 25, 2006 Group: Royal Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 51 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 2,849 Content Per Day: 0.44 Reputation: 14 Days Won: 0 Joined: 07/17/2006 Status: Offline Birthday: 03/17/1979 Share Posted October 25, 2006 so it isn't even a matter of individual workers bing on the job 7 days a week, that almost never happens right now anyway. It happens where I live all the time. My husband sometimes works as much as 30 days without a day off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KOG-Ambassador Posted October 25, 2006 Group: Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 0 Topics Per Day: 0 Content Count: 10 Content Per Day: 0.00 Reputation: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 01/19/2006 Status: Offline Share Posted October 25, 2006 How have Christian's accepted the world's point of view? Some Christians are still moved by fear which is how the world operates. They believe in what people have to say about their situation instead of what God says through His promises. They still criticize and put people down, living in the flesh instead of walking in love. John 13:35 says, "By this all men will know that you are my disciples, if you love one another." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colleen Phillips Posted October 25, 2006 Group: Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 0 Topics Per Day: 0 Content Count: 4 Content Per Day: 0.00 Reputation: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 10/25/2006 Status: Offline Share Posted October 25, 2006 It happens where I live all the time. My husband sometimes works as much as 30 days without a day off. That is just plain stupidity on the company's part. They are not only neglecting their employees, but paying out far more wages than they would otherwise need to do. It is far cheaper to hire additional workers and rework the schedule, paying them all 40-48 hours a week, than to have a plant full of people getting compulsory overtime 70-84 hours a week(if on 12s). By rotating 4 shifts 4 days on/4 days off, a company saves about 1/5 the labor cost compared to 2 shifts, and everyone gets 3 days off each week... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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