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Did you know that before Calvin became a Calvinist, he was Lutheran? Calvin fell under the writings of the New Testament translation by Eramus and the writings of Luther.

Luther and Calvin contradicted themselves because they claimed to use the Bible only, then went on to write Creeds in ADDITION to the bible.

None of the 5 points of Tulip, are taught in the Bible. The "sinners prayer" is NOT in the Bible and won't save you. It is a false doctrine that developed from Calvinism and was first practiced less than 50 years ago.

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Did you know that before Calvin became a Calvinist, he was Lutheran?

Was John Calvin a Calvinist?? That seems funny, like saying John the Baptist was a Baptist. :emot-heartbeat:

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Did you know that before Calvin became a Calvinist, he was Lutheran?

Was John Calvin a Calvinist?? That seems funny, like saying John the Baptist was a Baptist. :emot-heartbeat:

Yeah I saw the humor in that as well. It's like saying, "Before Jesus converted to Christianity..." :th_praying:

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Did you know that before Calvin became a Calvinist, he was Lutheran?

Was John Calvin a Calvinist?? That seems funny, like saying John the Baptist was a Baptist. :th_praying:

Yeah I saw the humor in that as well. It's like saying, "Before Jesus converted to Christianity..." :mgcheerful:

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Luther and Calvin contradicted themselves because they claimed to use the Bible only, then went on to write Creeds in ADDITION to the bible.

A creed is not something produced in "addition to the Bible." Creeds do not share authority with the Bible. True Christianity, the New Testament faith given to us by Christ, sees the Bible the final arbiter on matters of Christian faith and practice. Creeds, for our purposes here, are nothing more than than formulated statements concerning the chief articles of Christian belief.

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The "sinners prayer" is NOT in the Bible and won't save you. It is a false doctrine that developed from Calvinism and was first practiced less than 50 years ago.

The sinner's prayer, though not "scriptural" per say is not a doctrine. It is a tradition. Furthermore, I come from the S. Baptist tradition, and we do not believe that the sinner's prayer saves anyone. I have never heard any attribute salvific value to it. While it is quite recent, it does not violate any precept of either hte Old or New Testaments, and many people who have come to faith in Jesus, have prayed it from their hearts and invited Jesus to come and live in their hearts.

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After decades of study, I have concluded that hyper-Calvinism/hyper-sovereignty is not biblical (TULIP is deductive, not inductive).

Arminianism is a free will theism, but overstates exhaustive foreknowledge.

Catholicism is problematic, though it is possible to be a Catholic Christian.

Open Theism (Pinnock, Sanders, Body, Hasker, Basinger, Pratney, Olson, Rice, etc.) is a mediate position that needs to be considered (though it is usually misunderstood and misrepresented).

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Seems like this should be in Doctrinal...

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The "sinners prayer" is NOT in the Bible and won't save you. It is a false doctrine that developed from Calvinism and was first practiced less than 50 years ago.

The sinner's prayer, though not "scriptural" per say is not a doctrine. It is a tradition. Furthermore, I come from the S. Baptist tradition, and we do not believe that the sinner's prayer saves anyone. I have never heard any attribute salvific value to it. While it is quite recent, it does not violate any precept of either hte Old or New Testaments, and many people who have come to faith in Jesus, have prayed it from their hearts and invited Jesus to come and live in their hearts.

Oh, I thought only Catholics go by Sacred Tradition and Sacred Scripture. Now you are telling me you go by Tradition also?

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Did you know that before Calvin became a Calvinist, he was Lutheran?

Was John Calvin a Calvinist?? That seems funny, like saying John the Baptist was a Baptist. :3:

Yeah I saw the humor in that as well. It's like saying, "Before Jesus converted to Christianity..." :crazy:

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