Ztheberean Posted February 5, 2007 Group: Junior Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 77 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 99 Content Per Day: 0.02 Reputation: 9 Days Won: 0 Joined: 10/22/2006 Status: Offline Share Posted February 5, 2007 I would like to hear your comments about being perfect using the bible, rather than our opinions.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Floatingaxe Posted February 5, 2007 Group: Royal Member Followers: 3 Topic Count: 62 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 9,613 Content Per Day: 1.44 Reputation: 656 Days Won: 9 Joined: 03/11/2006 Status: Offline Birthday: 05/31/1952 Share Posted February 5, 2007 Matthew 5:48... But you are to be perfect, even as your Father in heaven is perfect. Kind of a tall order, eh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
systemstrike_7 Posted February 6, 2007 Group: Nonbeliever Followers: 1 Topic Count: 12 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 540 Content Per Day: 0.08 Reputation: 1 Days Won: 0 Joined: 12/04/2006 Status: Offline Birthday: 08/07/1987 Share Posted February 6, 2007 No, I do not believe that anyone could honestly be perfect. It just couldn't happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Masked Chris Posted February 6, 2007 Group: Junior Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 2 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 83 Content Per Day: 0.01 Reputation: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 10/18/2006 Status: Offline Birthday: 07/11/1986 Share Posted February 6, 2007 I would like to hear your comments about being perfect using the bible, rather than our opinions.. it's intresting because Jesus has that troubling line in Matthew 7 "be perfect therefore as your father in heaven is perfect". People seem to have claimed this to be bad translation or say that Luke's version is more accurate "be merciful therefore as your father in heaven in merciful". However..... I think these excuses come when they don't like the nature of the passage. "be perfect Jesus??? Thats some high expecations... I mean I'd feel better if you said 'be as good as you can'". However after some of my own reflections [and prayer] i came to relize that the nature of the passage is trust and faith. the goal is perfection... we can't do that on our own and thats good. It keeps us in constant touch of our limitations and therefore humble enough to admit our need for God. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oh Hamburgers! Posted February 6, 2007 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 10 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 2,144 Content Per Day: 0.34 Reputation: 163 Days Won: 1 Joined: 02/02/2007 Status: Offline Birthday: 11/05/1985 Share Posted February 6, 2007 nope, perfection isn't for human beings. Besides, in order to be "perfect", everyone would have to agree that you were perfect... and THAT is almost a more difficult task than being perfect in the first place! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terter Posted February 6, 2007 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 14 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 473 Content Per Day: 0.07 Reputation: 2 Days Won: 0 Joined: 10/14/2006 Status: Offline Share Posted February 6, 2007 (edited) Here are a couple of verses and there are a lot more - 1Jo 3:6 Whosoever abideth in him sinneth not: whosoever sinneth hath not seen him, neither known him. 1Jo 5:4 For whatsoever is born of God overcometh the world: and this is the victory that overcometh the world, even our faith. Being sinless - Should be the aim of Christians knowing that we won't attain it but not using it as an excuse to sin. Edited February 6, 2007 by terter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ztheberean Posted February 6, 2007 Group: Junior Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 77 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 99 Content Per Day: 0.02 Reputation: 9 Days Won: 0 Joined: 10/22/2006 Status: Offline Author Share Posted February 6, 2007 Hi there everyone, I am happy to see that you took the time to look up the word perfect. I just want to add on what you have come up with for your edification. Now that we know that we need to be perfect, the question is HOW do we become perfect? The word perfect is used 99 times in the bible, and I use the blueletterbible.org to do word studies which is very easy to use. We can only go into the Scriptures to find answers so that we would be edified by the word of God, rather than our opinions. The verse that was used in question Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect. That word perfect is strongs # 5046 which means brought to it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Timbo Posted February 14, 2007 Share Posted February 14, 2007 Jesus said: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kat8585 Posted February 14, 2007 Group: Royal Member Followers: 3 Topic Count: 1,360 Topics Per Day: 0.21 Content Count: 7,866 Content Per Day: 1.23 Reputation: 26 Days Won: 0 Joined: 11/22/2006 Status: Offline Birthday: 04/18/1946 Share Posted February 14, 2007 That's the goal, but since He knew we wouldn't ever be, on this earth, He provided us with His robe of righteousness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apothanein kerdos Posted February 14, 2007 Group: Royal Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 331 Topics Per Day: 0.05 Content Count: 8,713 Content Per Day: 1.20 Reputation: 21 Days Won: 0 Joined: 07/28/2004 Status: Offline Share Posted February 14, 2007 1 John 1:8-10 (written to Christian believers) - If we say that we have no sin, we are deceiving ourselves and the truth is not in us. If we confess our sins, He is faithful and righteous to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness. If we say that we have not sinned, we make Him a liar and His word is not in us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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