BlindSeeker Posted December 26, 2003 Group: Royal Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 69 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 4,075 Content Per Day: 0.53 Reputation: 428 Days Won: 5 Joined: 03/22/2003 Status: Offline Share Posted December 26, 2003 I can not answer either of the questions. . . Then I will endeavor to answer your previous post shortly then base upon your given response. However, let me first make a just few comments on this last post. . . . The reason for being forsaken would be that He had poured out His soul unto death. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlindSeeker Posted December 26, 2003 Group: Royal Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 69 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 4,075 Content Per Day: 0.53 Reputation: 428 Days Won: 5 Joined: 03/22/2003 Status: Offline Share Posted December 26, 2003 I estimate that He was forsaken because He as much said so by the way the question is translated . . . This was the opening statement to your last post, the which I wished to address here in my response to your previous post below - . . . How does a non-Trinitarian maintain the divinity of the Son and diversity of the Father in Matthew 27:46? And about the ninth hour Jesus cried with a loud voice, saying, Eli, Eli, lama sabachthani? that is to say, My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me? I know that the phrase Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatsitmean Posted December 26, 2003 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 31 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 881 Content Per Day: 0.11 Reputation: 11 Days Won: 0 Joined: 03/16/2002 Status: Offline Share Posted December 26, 2003 First, Based upon your submission of scripture, it makes no sense that the Father would forsake Jesus because Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatsitmean Posted December 26, 2003 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 31 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 881 Content Per Day: 0.11 Reputation: 11 Days Won: 0 Joined: 03/16/2002 Status: Offline Share Posted December 26, 2003 How could this verse be true, if He never experienced seperation from the Father and spiritual death? Hebrews 4:15 For we have not an high priest which cannot be touched with the feeling of our infirmities; but was in all points tempted like as we are, yet without sin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlindSeeker Posted December 27, 2003 Group: Royal Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 69 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 4,075 Content Per Day: 0.53 Reputation: 428 Days Won: 5 Joined: 03/22/2003 Status: Offline Share Posted December 27, 2003 So . . . basically you are saving that Jesus had to die spiritually as well as physically to complete the atonement of humanity . . . am I correct in understanding this as your position? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatsitmean Posted December 27, 2003 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 31 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 881 Content Per Day: 0.11 Reputation: 11 Days Won: 0 Joined: 03/16/2002 Status: Offline Share Posted December 27, 2003 I don Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlindSeeker Posted December 27, 2003 Group: Royal Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 69 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 4,075 Content Per Day: 0.53 Reputation: 428 Days Won: 5 Joined: 03/22/2003 Status: Offline Share Posted December 27, 2003 . . . I think we have agreed that we don Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlindSeeker Posted December 27, 2003 Group: Royal Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 69 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 4,075 Content Per Day: 0.53 Reputation: 428 Days Won: 5 Joined: 03/22/2003 Status: Offline Share Posted December 27, 2003 I don Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatsitmean Posted December 27, 2003 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 31 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 881 Content Per Day: 0.11 Reputation: 11 Days Won: 0 Joined: 03/16/2002 Status: Offline Share Posted December 27, 2003 The main difference is that Adam had his own spiritual being which was spirit from God, Adam Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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