ladypeartree Posted March 10, 2007 Group: Royal Member Followers: 37 Topic Count: 540 Topics Per Day: 0.08 Content Count: 32,867 Content Per Day: 5.04 Reputation: 23,579 Days Won: 228 Joined: 06/21/2006 Status: Offline Birthday: 02/23/1953 Share Posted March 10, 2007 We can celebrate the day someone dies if they are saved ...my son's funereal was a celebration of the blessings we had from his life and a celebration of the fact that he is safe with Jesus now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hupo Posted March 10, 2007 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 18 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 1,055 Content Per Day: 0.17 Reputation: 18 Days Won: 0 Joined: 02/19/2007 Status: Offline Birthday: 07/12/1944 Author Share Posted March 10, 2007 The bible does not say celebrating birthdays is a sin but it says The day of death is better than the day of one's birth , Eccl.7 v 1. How come man does exactly the opposite by celebrating birth and lamenting death ? You know Beta, I think we should get the context of what is written in Ecclesiastes. As far as I know (which isn't too far) this book is all about Vanity. He is asking hard questions such as ... There is nothing new under the sun(1:9) What profit has man from all his labor? (1:3) What is crooked cannot be made straight (1:15) as it happens to the fool it also happens to me (2:15) and so on ....... At first glance the book is about Whine rather than Wine, isn't it? Is this what God wants of us? I doubt it very much, and I'm sure there are scriptures somewhere for it. For instance, what would compell Yeshua to turn water into wine at that wedding in Kana? It also says somewhere that the fruits God has promised us include Joy So this book is not a recomendation for being miserable. There is a lesson to be learned here (in another topic) And along with that comes the celebration of birthdays. A child is born. God created us to have children. Shouldn't we rejoyce over it? The fact that birthdays are hardly mentioned in the Bible doesn't mean we shouldn't celebrate them, for if that was the case we should never fly planes, build skyscrapers or chat in forums either, or even read the Bible!! Did you know, the word "Bible" doesn't appear in the Bible?! So does this mean we shouldn't read the Bible? If it's true that some say celebrating birthdays is a sin, I would think they need to re-read God's word. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kat8585 Posted March 10, 2007 Group: Royal Member Followers: 3 Topic Count: 1,360 Topics Per Day: 0.21 Content Count: 7,866 Content Per Day: 1.23 Reputation: 26 Days Won: 0 Joined: 11/22/2006 Status: Offline Birthday: 04/18/1946 Share Posted March 10, 2007 I think it's atrocious how lavishly some parents celebrate their kids' birthdays, and the money they spend. Even with young kids who are too young to remember, and it's really a chance for the adults to party big time. I think this may be offensive to God. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Biblicist Posted March 10, 2007 Share Posted March 10, 2007 The bible does not say celebrating birthdays is a sin but it says The day of death is better than the day of one's birth , Eccl.7 v 1. How come man does exactly the opposite by celebrating birth and lamenting death ? I think you need to remember that Solomon wrote that in a state of senility and probably depression. That verse is not making a doctrinal statement. I agree with that statement. The day of one's birth is the first day on the earth, a life spent full of strife, struggles, temptations. . . The day of one's death, assuming that you are indeed a Child of God, would mean the first day of the rest of eternity free from strife, struggles, temptations. And in the complete presence of God. For me, to live is Christ, to die is gain! Philippians 1:21 I don't think Paul was depressed when he wrote that statement. I agree Beta, we should celebrate one's passage from life on earth to eternal life with the Saviour. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Biblicist Posted March 10, 2007 Share Posted March 10, 2007 I think it's atrocious how lavishly some parents celebrate their kids' birthdays, and the money they spend. Even with young kids who are too young to remember, and it's really a chance for the adults to party big time. I think this may be offensive to God. kat, what about parents who tried for years and years to have a baby then God miraculously blessed them with a child? I can see their desire to celebrate hugely the incredible gift God had bestowed upon them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hupo Posted March 10, 2007 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 18 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 1,055 Content Per Day: 0.17 Reputation: 18 Days Won: 0 Joined: 02/19/2007 Status: Offline Birthday: 07/12/1944 Author Share Posted March 10, 2007 Jehovah's Witnesses don't celebrate birthdays. This information comes from the official site of the Jehovah's Witnesses. I won't put a link there. 4. Birthdays: The only two birthday celebrations spoken of in the Bible were held by persons who did not worship Jehovah. (Genesis 40:20-22; Mark 6:21, 22, 24-27) The early Christians did not celebrate birthdays. The custom of celebrating birthdays comes from ancient false religions. True Christians give gifts and have good times together at other times during the year. I thought that might be where it came from. JW is that group I was told to keep away from. I don't buy that. Would be interesting to hear their side of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Timer Posted March 10, 2007 Group: Soapbox - Members Followers: 2 Topic Count: 68 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 962 Content Per Day: 0.13 Reputation: 52 Days Won: 1 Joined: 05/18/2004 Status: Offline Birthday: 02/11/1932 Share Posted March 10, 2007 Birthdays are necessary because: Without them we wouldn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Biblicist Posted March 10, 2007 Share Posted March 10, 2007 Jehovah's Witnesses don't celebrate birthdays. This information comes from the official site of the Jehovah's Witnesses. I won't put a link there. 4. Birthdays: The only two birthday celebrations spoken of in the Bible were held by persons who did not worship Jehovah. (Genesis 40:20-22; Mark 6:21, 22, 24-27) The early Christians did not celebrate birthdays. The custom of celebrating birthdays comes from ancient false religions. True Christians give gifts and have good times together at other times during the year. I thought that might be where it came from. JW is that group I was told to keep away from. I don't buy that. Would be interesting to hear their side of it. hupo, my friend, Sorry I don't mean to get off topic. . . Please stay away from them. They do not believe that Jesus is diety at all! Their translation of the Bible reads John 1:1-3 1 In [the] beginning the Word was, and the Word was with God, and the Word was a god. 2 This one was in [the] beginning with God. 3 All things came into existence through him, and apart from him not even one thing came into existence. They are very close to Christian beliefs, but yet oh so far. They believe Jesus was a created being but not God. They say that there is only one God yet as you can see, John 1:1 has been translated that Jesus was A god. My mother in law is a Jehovah's Witness, or at least used to be. Considering she always celebrated Christimas, at the behest of her husbnad and I don't think she practices anymore I am certain they do not welcome her into the Kingdom Hall. I know of a woman who was JW her husband went to a Baptist church and recieved the Lord as his personal saviour. She was forced to divorce him by her elders and was encouraged to remarry someone from their church. They have two children. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kat8585 Posted March 10, 2007 Group: Royal Member Followers: 3 Topic Count: 1,360 Topics Per Day: 0.21 Content Count: 7,866 Content Per Day: 1.23 Reputation: 26 Days Won: 0 Joined: 11/22/2006 Status: Offline Birthday: 04/18/1946 Share Posted March 10, 2007 I think it's atrocious how lavishly some parents celebrate their kids' birthdays, and the money they spend. Even with young kids who are too young to remember, and it's really a chance for the adults to party big time. I think this may be offensive to God. kat, what about parents who tried for years and years to have a baby then God miraculously blessed them with a child? I can see their desire to celebrate hugely the incredible gift God had bestowed upon them. That is a point, but all the ones I've known of, that wasn't the case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bethshemaiah Posted March 10, 2007 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 6 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 150 Content Per Day: 0.02 Reputation: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 09/17/2006 Status: Offline Share Posted March 10, 2007 Birthdays are necessary because: Without them we wouldn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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