hupo Posted May 12, 2007 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 18 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 1,055 Content Per Day: 0.17 Reputation: 18 Days Won: 0 Joined: 02/19/2007 Status: Offline Birthday: 07/12/1944 Share Posted May 12, 2007 Couple of days now since I bumped into something called "Baptism with the Holy Ghost" I googled it and found it was a big controversy issue. I must admit, I have never heard of this before and still am in the dark about it, or why it is such a controversy. Can anyone enlighten me on this subject? Hope this is not a "pandora's box" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scarletprayers Posted May 12, 2007 Group: Royal Member Followers: 2 Topic Count: 135 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 7,537 Content Per Day: 1.08 Reputation: 157 Days Won: 2 Joined: 04/06/2005 Status: Offline Birthday: 09/29/1956 Share Posted May 12, 2007 Ohhhhhhhh boy, will you be enlighted! I'm still trying to figure it out myself Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hupo Posted May 12, 2007 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 18 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 1,055 Content Per Day: 0.17 Reputation: 18 Days Won: 0 Joined: 02/19/2007 Status: Offline Birthday: 07/12/1944 Author Share Posted May 12, 2007 Ohhhhhhhh boy, will you be enlighted! I'm still trying to figure it out myself Sounds like one hugh mystery Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scarletprayers Posted May 12, 2007 Group: Royal Member Followers: 2 Topic Count: 135 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 7,537 Content Per Day: 1.08 Reputation: 157 Days Won: 2 Joined: 04/06/2005 Status: Offline Birthday: 09/29/1956 Share Posted May 12, 2007 Ohhhhhhhh boy, will you be enlighted! I'm still trying to figure it out myself Sounds like one hugh mystery right back at cha! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vickilynn Posted May 12, 2007 Group: Royal Member Followers: 2 Topic Count: 138 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 3,997 Content Per Day: 0.64 Reputation: 19 Days Won: 0 Joined: 02/13/2007 Status: Offline Share Posted May 12, 2007 Couple of days now since I bumped into something called "Baptism with the Holy Ghost" I googled it and found it was a big controversy issue. I must admit, I have never heard of this before and still am in the dark about it, or why it is such a controversy. Can anyone enlighten me on this subject? Hope this is not a "pandora's box" Shalom Hupo, Yes, it is a Pandora's Box and the cause of many ugly responses here and on other boards. It is a BIG divisive issue in the Body and there are churches that split over this very issue. That is not to say it should not be asked. It is a valid question and one that every Believer should ask. However, I would encourage you to ask this question of those whom you know are solid in the faith, those whom you know personally that are wise in these areas and not rely on the opinions of people on message boards. You will get all sorts of replies, some are right, some are not and you may end up more confused than when you started. Have you asked Dor about this? I would encourage you to ask her first before a group of people who you do not know what they believe and caould give you all sorts of wrong opinions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Floatingaxe Posted May 12, 2007 Group: Royal Member Followers: 3 Topic Count: 62 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 9,613 Content Per Day: 1.45 Reputation: 656 Days Won: 9 Joined: 03/11/2006 Status: Offline Birthday: 05/31/1952 Share Posted May 12, 2007 OY VEY!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hupo Posted May 12, 2007 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 18 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 1,055 Content Per Day: 0.17 Reputation: 18 Days Won: 0 Joined: 02/19/2007 Status: Offline Birthday: 07/12/1944 Author Share Posted May 12, 2007 Couple of days now since I bumped into something called "Baptism with the Holy Ghost" I googled it and found it was a big controversy issue. I must admit, I have never heard of this before and still am in the dark about it, or why it is such a controversy. Can anyone enlighten me on this subject? Hope this is not a "pandora's box" Shalom Hupo, Yes, it is a Pandora's Box and the cause of many ugly responses here and on other boards. It is a BIG divisive issue in the Body and there are churches that split over this very issue. That is not to say it should not be asked. It is a valid question and one that every Believer should ask. However, I would encourage you to ask this question of those whom you know are solid in the faith, those whom you know personally that are wise in these areas and not rely on the opinions of people on message boards. You will get all sorts of replies, some are right, some are not and you may end up more confused than when you started. Have you asked Dor about this? I would encourage you to ask her first before a group of people who you do not know what they believe and caould give you all sorts of wrong opinions. Funny you should mention Dor. I have just logged in a chat with her. Sure I'll ask her. I suddenly feel like i'm walking in a mine field..... Thanks Vickilynn Blessings Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hupo Posted May 12, 2007 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 18 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 1,055 Content Per Day: 0.17 Reputation: 18 Days Won: 0 Joined: 02/19/2007 Status: Offline Birthday: 07/12/1944 Author Share Posted May 12, 2007 OY VEY!! That Bad !?!? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vickilynn Posted May 12, 2007 Group: Royal Member Followers: 2 Topic Count: 138 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 3,997 Content Per Day: 0.64 Reputation: 19 Days Won: 0 Joined: 02/13/2007 Status: Offline Share Posted May 12, 2007 OY VEY!! That Bad !?!? Shalom Hupo, Yes. Floating Axe and I have been [on opposite sides] in very heated, very nasty threads about this subject. You can do a search here on Worthy and read, but I warn you, it's not edifying and 3 of them have been locked recently. I really encourage you to speak to Dor about this, I believe she will show you the truth from Scriptures which is what you need. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Natt Posted May 12, 2007 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 93 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 470 Content Per Day: 0.07 Reputation: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 10/29/2006 Status: Offline Share Posted May 12, 2007 Couple of days now since I bumped into something called "Baptism with the Holy Ghost" I googled it and found it was a big controversy issue. I must admit, I have never heard of this before and still am in the dark about it, or why it is such a controversy. Can anyone enlighten me on this subject? Hope this is not a "pandora's box" Churches teach difference viewpoints here Some teach that this doesn't apply today as we are filled with the holy spirit at conversion. They believe the signs,healings etc.. gifts were only for the apostles for the early spreading of the gospel. They view the perfect in the following verse as the completion of the bible. 1 Cor 13: 8-10 Love never fails. But where there are prophecies, they will cease; where there are tongues, they will be stilled; where there is knowledge, it will pass away. For we know in part and we prophesy in part, but when perfection comes, the imperfect disappears. The filling of the spirit is often viewed as their obedience to God. i.e.To have a more spirit filled life, Obey God. The practice of being slain in the spirit is also often not approved of. One of their arguments here is that no one in the bible fell backwards when being filled with the spirit, only those who are enemies of God. Others teach it as two separate anointings. They believe that the spiritual gifts are still in existance today.See verse below Mark 16: 17-18( some of the earliest manuscripts do not contain this portion of scripture) He said to them, "Go into all the world and preach the good news to all creation. Whoever believes and is baptized will be saved, but whoever does not believe will be condemned. And these signs will accompany those who believe: In my name they will drive out demons; they will speak in new tongues; they will pick up snakes with their hands; and when they drink deadly poison, it will not hurt them at all; they will place their hands on sick people, and they will get well These are usually the Pentecostal/Charismatic churches. They regularly use tongues, filling of the spirit, slain in the spirit and holy laughter as evidence they are filled with the spirit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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