Satanic and Demonic Objects in Your Home

[minnow]

I personally do not have in my possession any of the "contraband" garden gnomes being spoken of, but I certainly do not consider the presence of a gnome in someone's garden as being evidence of demonic forces indicating that the household is a likely breeding ground of satanic rebelliousness.

I suppose the question becomes; just where do you draw the line? What about fountains, bird-baths and other landscaping or ornamental objects?

For those who declare garden gnomes to be demonic, just what is the Scriptural basis to support this? Is it something along the lines of;

Leviticus 26:1

NASB

You shall not make for yourselves idols, nor shall you set up for yourselves an image or a sacred pillar, nor shall you place a figured stone in your land to bow down to it; for I am the LORD your God.

2 Kings 18:4

NASB

He removed the high places and broke down the sacred pillars and cut down the Asherah He also broke in pieces the bronze serpent that Moses had made, for until those days the sons of Israel burned incense to it; and it was called Nehushtan.

Such verses would tend to indicate that the object in itself is not an issue, unless it becomes an object of worship. Beyond that it would appear to come down to a matter of conscience on a personal level.

Consider also:

Are angels evil, because some people choose to worship and/or pray to them?

Are saints evil, because some people choose to worship and/or pray to them?

Is sex evil, because some people are controlled by lust or abuse it without regard to God?

Are computers evil, because some people use them to produce, distribute or access pornography or other profane material?

1 Corinthians 10:30-31 NASB

If I partake with thankfulness, why am I slandered concerning that for which I give thanks? Whether, then, you eat or drink or whatever you do, do all to the glory of God.

[Wingwalker]

Thank you minnow for you insight into this

[Ovedya]

I have re-opened this thread as it appears to be a subject of some concern to our posters.

I've done my best to clean it up without getting rid of what I believe are some very valid points regarding Christians and superstition, but I would like also to remind everyone that has posted here that we are all brothers and sisters in the Lord. We would all do well to remember Paul's words in 1 Cor. 10:23-33. Although some of us may have a clear conscience with regard to material objects, others regard them as stumbling blocks. The point then is to make concession for one another rather than using such matters as weapons of war.

Now then, I would like to consider Andrew's original post and make some comments of my own, with the hope that my words would help to free some believers from the bondage to simple material items that hold no power:

Introduction

We all have things within our homes that we know off and some that are hidden from us, long forgotten or its history unknown. Just how many of those things are honouring to God? How man of these things are as innocent as they seem, they could well be harboring bad spirits by creating a bad atmosphere and creating disharmony within the home. Here are my thoughts as to what we posses in our home, how we perceive them and what God most likely thinks of them.

To begin with Andrew, you are saying essentially two things: One, that there are potentially objects within the homes of believers that are not honoring God, and two that some of these things could be harboring bad spirits and creating a bad atmosphere or disharmony in the home. While you first point can most certainly true, your second point is most certainly not true.

Material objects in and of themselves hold no power or distinction unless a person gives them power or distinction. I hope to open this up more thoroughly as I progress through some of the other points you made in this post, but essentially it amounts to superstition and the giving of ones own power away to those objects and living in bondage to them - potentially more bondage than one would be under were your point true.

Indeed it is easy to become paranoid about such things and go way over the top and obsessive, which is in itself not healthy for us, for example banning anyone from entering the house who wears jewellery in case they have one of dozens of type of crystal that is used in new age healing. Who created crystals in first place? Well obviously God did. Man and Satan have simply taken a perfect creation and used it for their perversion and evil. Just because Satan has decided to fool man into using certain objects for evil, dose not mean we can also enjoy these objects for the purpose they were intended.

This is an excellent point, and one that all believers should understand implicitly. Objects hold no significance in and of themselves. This is a perfect example of that. However, in your next paragraph you go to far by placing value on those objects:

...However we may run into problems if we just buy crystals etc from any old source as we have no way of knowing what they were used for, if their use was for satanic purposes, such as healing, they most likely come with a

[Vickilynn]

Shalom,

The title suggests that there ARE such things as satanic and evil objects. I am not talking about demons inhabiting inanimate objects, but objects that are created for evil by man. These objects were not created by G-d and therefore have no G-dly purpose or function.

There are G-d created objects, such as trees, snakes, and things in Nature. Just because people used these for evil purposes does not make them evil in and of themselves. For example, just because some people used to worship evergreen trees and made idols out of them, that does not mean the Christmas Tree in my home is evil. Christians use this argument to say that anything once perverted is forever perverted. I disagree. Anything created by G-d, such as trees, is not evil of itself, because it was created by G-d.

However, there is a second issue here, one that has been overlooked in this discussion and is, in my opinion, the REAL discussion. This, imho, is the REAL issue of this and should be considered carefully and prayerfully and not dismissed and CERTAINLY not mocked!

There are things that are not created by G-d, but created by man strictly for evil and satanic purposes and have no G-dly purpose or function and in and of themselves, they glorify evil. The example here are faeries and gnomes. These are worshipped as idols and represent only that. The lie that these are "cute and cuddly" mythical creatures is a lie from the enemy to get us to accept those things that are not G-dly into our lives by telling us they are harmless. Satan also tells us that HE is harmless.

So, we must differentiate in this discussion, those things that are created by G-d and are G-d's and those things created by man for evil and have no other purpose. The Ouija board brought up recently is another. It was created for evil and is used for evil and to say it is harmless is ignoring the truth. Not only is not pleasing to G-d, but it promotes the appearance of accepting evil to those who use these items, such as Wiccans. It is one thing to have these gnomes in ignorance, but once it has been shown that these things were created for and are used in idol worship, we should remove them, so as not to become a stumbling block for Christians, or those who need to be freed from the bondage of evil and are using these items.

We must be diligent and not bring into our homes and lives those things that are created for and used for idolatry, evil and satanic purposes. We must not however, look at the good things G-d created and say they are evil - they are not! Even if they are used for evil purposes, the fact they were created by G-d and G-d is not evil says it all.

[EricH]

I am wondering if Paul's discussion of "meat sacrificed to idols" would have any bearing on this. According to Paul the meat in itself had no significance, but some could not get past the idea that it had at one time been used in pagan worship. According to Paul, the ability to eat such meat is a matter of ones own faith.

[Emily~Anne]

Shalom,

The title suggests that there ARE such things as satanic and evil objects. I am not talking about demons inhabiting inanimate objects, but objects that are created for evil by man. These objects were not created by G-d and therefore have no G-dly purpose or function.

There are G-d created objects, such as trees, snakes, and things in Nature. Just because people used these for evil purposes does not make them evil in and of themselves. For example, just because some people used to worship evergreen trees and made idols out of them, that does not mean the Christmas Tree in my home is evil. Christians use this argument to say that anything once perverted is forever perverted. I disagree. Anything created by G-d, such as trees, is not evil of itself, because it was created by G-d.

However, there is a second issue here, one that has been overlooked in this discussion and is, in my opinion, the REAL discussion. This, imho, is the REAL issue of this and should be considered carefully and prayerfully and not dismissed and CERTAINLY not mocked!

There are things that are not created by G-d, but created by man strictly for evil and satanic purposes and have no G-dly purpose or function and in and of themselves, they glorify evil. The example here are faeries and gnomes. These are worshipped as idols and represent only that. The lie that these are "cute and cuddly" mythical creatures is a lie from the enemy to get us to accept those things that are not G-dly into our lives by telling us they are harmless. Satan also tells us that HE is harmless.

So, we must differentiate in this discussion, those things that are created by G-d and are G-d's and those things created by man for evil and have no other other purpose. The Ouija board brought up recently is another. It was created for evil and is used for evil and to say it is harmless is ignoring the truth. Not only is not pleasing to G-d, but it promotes the appearance of accepting evil to those who use these items, such as Wiccans. It is one thing to have these gnomes in ignorance, but once it has been shown that these things were created for and are used in idol worship, we should remove them, so as not to become a stumbling block for Christians, or those who need to be freed from the bondage of evil and are using these items.

We must be diligent and not bring into our homes and lives those things that are created for and used for idolatry, evil and satanic purposes. We must not however, look at the good things G-d created and say they are evil - they are not! Even if they are used for evil purposes, the fact they were created by G-d and G-d is not evil says it all.

I totally 100% agree.

[Vickilynn]

I am wondering if Paul's discussion of "meat sacrificed to idols" would have any bearing on this. According to Paul the meat in itself had no significance, but some could not get past the idea that it had at one time been used in pagan worship. According to Paul, the ability to eat such meat is a matter of ones own faith.

Shalom Eric,

I would use the criteria I mentioned above.

Were animals created by G-d or man? If they were created by G-d, they are not evil, even if man perverts their created use and function.

Since animals were created by G-d and have function (other than evil), I believe Paul was saying that the meat is not evil, in and of itself. So, if you knew that the meat was used in idol worship, you need not be concerned about it, unless it bothered you.

This is different than say the Ouija Board or gnomes and faeries that were NOT created by G-d, have no function or purpose other than evil. These I believe are clearly things to stay way from for Christians.

[EricH]

I am wondering if Paul's discussion of "meat sacrificed to idols" would have any bearing on this. According to Paul the meat in itself had no significance, but some could not get past the idea that it had at one time been used in pagan worship. According to Paul, the ability to eat such meat is a matter of ones own faith.

Shalom Eric,

I would use the criteria I mentioned above.

Were animals created by G-d or man?

Since animals were created by G-d and have function (other than evil), I believe Paul was saying that the meat is not evil, in and of itself. So, if you knew that the meat was used in idol worship, you need not be concerned about it, unless it bothered you.

This is different than say the Ouija Board or gnomes and faeries that were NOT created by G-d, have no function or purpose other than evil. These I believe are clearly things to stay way from fro Christians.

Agreed

[Emily~Anne]

My problem with the gnomes and faeries and such is the way how they inspire the imagination and that can easily turn the wrong way. Perhaps you would never fall into the trap, but are you going to keep your beautiful faeries and such locked in a closet? Chances are others will see them. Faeries are just absolutely gorgeous. I could dream all night long about faeries frolicking through the forest, and little forest gnomes and elves and the such. I believe this is how it gets started with many people. Go online and google faerie magick and such, and you will come across beautiful websites that have the most gorgeous pictures on them. One website has a picture of a beautiful human sized faerie and at her feet are many miniature sized faeries. They are in the forest, and there is a ray of sunshine shining down on them. On this website you will find a wide variety of recipes for faerie spells for contacting the elements and spirits of the earth and etc. They are written in a beautiful font. I can see how this could easily draw people. I see faeries and gnomes and such as a temptation to get lured into a whole false belief system.

I have sensed from some of you an attitude of it

[None]

Ovedya,

that was the most accurate post I've read in this thread yet. Very long but well worth reading through in it's entirety.