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I'm with you, josh-13. :P

Again, my problem is with the interpretation that God's holy angels were doing the procreating and are responsible for the UFO phenomena.

None - the interpretation has to do with who "the sons of God" are and who "the daughters of men" are. I do not believe it is as clear as you claim it to be.

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Josh quoted, "There are good people who hold to each view, and each view has advantages and problems."

That's what it all boils down to(in a broad-blanketed way).

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Jude 1:6 And the angels who did not keep their proper domain, but left their own abode, He has reserved in everlasting chains under darkness for the judgment of the great day; 7 as Sodom and Gomorrah, and the cities around them in a similar manner to these, having given themselves over to sexual immorality and gone after strange flesh, are set forth as an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire.

Enoch 7:1-3

1It happened after the sons of men had multiplied in those days, that daughters were born to them, elegant and beautiful.

2And when the angels, (3) the sons of heaven, beheld them, they became enamoured of them, saying to each other, Come, let us select for ourselves wives from the progeny of men, and let us beget children.

Now as for Enoch

heres an artical I found about the book of Enoch

The Book of Enoch was extant centuries before the birth of Christ and yet is considered by many to be more Christian in its theology than Jewish. It was considered scripture by many early Christians. The earliest literature of the so-called "Church Fathers" is filled with references to this mysterious book. The early second century "Epistle of Barnabus" makes much use of the Book of Enoch. Second and Third Century "Church Fathers" like Justin Martyr, Irenaeus, Origin and Clement of Alexandria all make use of the Book of Enoch. Tertullian (160-230 C.E) even called the Book of Enoch "Holy Scripture". The Ethiopic Church even added the Book of Enoch to its official canon. It was widely known and read the first three centuries after Christ. This and many other books became discredited after the Council of Laodicea. And being under ban of the authorities, afterwards it gradually passed out of circulation.

At about the time of the Protestant Reformation, there came to be a renewed interest in the Book of Enoch which had long since been lost to the modern world. By the late 1400's rumors began to spread that somewhere a copy of the long lost Book of Enoch might still exist. During this time many books arose claiming to be the long lost book and were later found to be forgeries.

The return of the long lost Book of Enoch to the modern western world is credited to the famous explorer James Bruce, who in 1773 returned from six years in Abyssinia with three Ethiopic copies of the lost book. In 1821 Richard Laurence published the first English translation. The famous R.H. Charles edition was published in 1912. In the following years several portions of the Greek text surfaced. Then with the discovery of cave 4 of the Dead Sea Scrolls, seven fragmentary copies of the Aramaic text were discovered.

There are scholars who believe the Book of Enoch was published before the Christian era by some great unknown of Semetic race, who believing himself to be inspired in a post-prophetic age, borrowed the name of an antediluvian patriarch to authenticate his own enthusiastic forcast of the coming Messiah. The Book of Enoch is divided into five basic parts, but it is the The Book of Parables (37-71) which gives scholars the most trouble for it is primarily concerned with a figure called "the messiah"; "the righteous one"; "the chosen one" and "the son of man."

The Book of Enoch Chapter 46:1-2 [1] There I beheld the Ancient of days whose head was like white wool, and with him another, whose countenance resembled that of a man. His countenance was full of grace, like that of one of the holy angels. Then I inquired of one of the angels, who went with me, and who showed me every secret thing, concerning this Son of man; who he was; whence he was; and why he accompanied the Ancient of days. [2] He answered and said to me, This is the Son of man, to whom righteousness belongs; with whom righteousness has dwealt; and who will reveal all the treasures of that which is concealed: for the Lord of spirits has chosen him; and his portion has surpassed all before the Lord of spirits in everlasting uprightness."

I think that the book of Enoch has a little more truth to it, than pagan philosophy.

The book of Enoch which was in the bible until the Roman church got a hold of it, is a wonderful book. Enoch declares the praises and glorification's of the Lord God Almighty all through out his book.

My personal belief is that the book of Enoch was removed from the bible because he speaks extensively about the fallen angels. How they were put here to help man but instead they rebelled against God and married the daughters of men and taught man the ways of the "plants". Can you guess what sort of knowledge about plants that is a plague that is reeking havoc on our society even today? DRUGS. All of the drugs that have been distroying people since before history was recorded came from plants and for the most part still do today.

As far as I am concerned. Anyone who can see pagan philosophy in the book of Enoch is not reading with the help of the Holy Spirit.

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Josh quoted, "There are good people who hold to each view, and each view has advantages and problems."

That's what it all boils down to(in a broad-blanketed way).

At least what one believes about the sons of God is not eternally significant. However it is eternally significant when one twists scripture to suit ones view or belief of any particular biblical subject.

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