Jedi4Yahweh Posted August 6, 2007 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 2 Topic Count: 75 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 1,955 Content Per Day: 0.26 Reputation: 636 Days Won: 1 Joined: 11/12/2003 Status: Offline Share Posted August 6, 2007 According to the verses you site, tsth, no one who is saved sins. Or is capable of sin. Since I sin I must not be saved, according to the verses you posted. Unless you are taking the verses out of context to prove your point. . . tsth, you remind me a lot of my younger sister. She did not say that or imply that at all. Reread it and slow down. She said before we were saved that we were bound to do sin..but now we are saved we are bound to do righteouness. When you were a sinner did you ever do what was right? You mainly lived to serve self and and sin but every once in awhile you did something right. This is the same with being a slave of righteousness. Sometimes we sin but we strive with all our hearts for righteouness because we want to please God. Now if this is not in your heart then and you choice to live a sin filled life with out any regard to God then yes you are a servant of sin and not of righteousness. See the difference? One is servant of God and one is a servant of Self. I can remember before I got saved I was big into partying and sexual misconduct, I lived to please self....but now that I am saved I put away those things and strive for rightouseness. Do I still sin??? Yes but my heart is pointed in the right direction. When I sin I feel terriable and confess it to God and then I continue to strive for rightouseness. This is called being a slave to righteosness. We have to love righteousness more then sin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eric Posted August 6, 2007 Group: Graduated to Heaven Followers: 2 Topic Count: 50 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 4,073 Content Per Day: 0.52 Reputation: 43 Days Won: 0 Joined: 10/02/2002 Status: Offline Birthday: 08/10/1923 Share Posted August 6, 2007 I agree with J4Y. It's time to stop taking pot shots. If you don't agree with a post, don't be sarky about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scarletprayers Posted August 6, 2007 Group: Royal Member Followers: 2 Topic Count: 135 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 7,537 Content Per Day: 1.08 Reputation: 157 Days Won: 2 Joined: 04/06/2005 Status: Offline Birthday: 09/29/1956 Share Posted August 6, 2007 I deleted it eric, my apologies Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eric Posted August 7, 2007 Group: Graduated to Heaven Followers: 2 Topic Count: 50 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 4,073 Content Per Day: 0.52 Reputation: 43 Days Won: 0 Joined: 10/02/2002 Status: Offline Birthday: 08/10/1923 Share Posted August 7, 2007 Thank you SP, it's appreciated Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tsth Posted August 7, 2007 Group: Royal Member Followers: 2 Topic Count: 297 Topics Per Day: 0.04 Content Count: 5,586 Content Per Day: 0.69 Reputation: 193 Days Won: 1 Joined: 04/09/2002 Status: Offline Author Share Posted August 7, 2007 Thank you too. FWIW, I didn't see it. In His Love, Suzanne Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scarletprayers Posted August 7, 2007 Group: Royal Member Followers: 2 Topic Count: 135 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 7,537 Content Per Day: 1.08 Reputation: 157 Days Won: 2 Joined: 04/06/2005 Status: Offline Birthday: 09/29/1956 Share Posted August 7, 2007 Thank you too. FWIW, I didn't see it. In His Love, Suzanne tsth, it wasn't about you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Biblicist Posted August 7, 2007 Share Posted August 7, 2007 Not in any way snarky. Asking questions. There are people who believe that if one sins after salvation they are no longer saved. There are also people who believe that they their sin no longer matters as long as they confess it. I think Scripture needs to be used clearly when dealing with these matters. According to the verses you quote, tsth, these ideas proven correct. HOWEVER, they are out of context. Simply because there are verses in the Bible that tell us that salvation is not a one way ticket to sinless land. Context is everything when interpreting God's word. It's a whole book, complete, not just a bunch of random thoughts and phrases. I may be a slave to righteousness but I also have work to do. I can't just sit there on my moral high horse and tell everyone else how to run their relationship with the Lord, not everyone is where I am and I am not anywhere near where I ought to be. And I certainly can not see their heart, any more than they can see mine. I would appreciate it if tsth would answer my post, instead of someone else. I am sure she can speak for herself on this matter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eric Posted August 7, 2007 Group: Graduated to Heaven Followers: 2 Topic Count: 50 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 4,073 Content Per Day: 0.52 Reputation: 43 Days Won: 0 Joined: 10/02/2002 Status: Offline Birthday: 08/10/1923 Share Posted August 7, 2007 Hi biblicist, This is a public forum and if you desire to ask questioms of any body specifically, I would suggest to PM that person and not make a public issue of it on open forum where everyone else can read it. Sometimes some of the questions asked don't dignify an answer. cheers, eric. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eric Posted August 7, 2007 Group: Graduated to Heaven Followers: 2 Topic Count: 50 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 4,073 Content Per Day: 0.52 Reputation: 43 Days Won: 0 Joined: 10/02/2002 Status: Offline Birthday: 08/10/1923 Share Posted August 7, 2007 I am sorry, biblicist, I was out of order and hasty, I was anticipating onther name calling thread. Please accept my most humble apologies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Biblicist Posted August 7, 2007 Share Posted August 7, 2007 Apology accepted, Brother. Absolutly no name calling intended. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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