WorthyNewsBot Posted October 19, 2007 Group: Bots Followers: 3 Topic Count: 39,879 Topics Per Day: 6.44 Content Count: 44,539 Content Per Day: 7.19 Reputation: 987 Days Won: 2 Joined: 06/06/2007 Status: Offline Share Posted October 19, 2007 A British parliamentary committee plans to investigate claims that the CIA operated a "black site" prison on Diego Garcia, an island in the Indian Ocean. http://www.worthynews.com/news/upi-com-New...e_island-5460-/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amor Posted October 20, 2007 Group: Removed from Forums for Breaking Terms of Service Followers: 1 Topic Count: 13 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 2,194 Content Per Day: 0.30 Reputation: 34 Days Won: 0 Joined: 06/18/2004 Status: Offline Share Posted October 20, 2007 A British parliamentary committee plans to investigate claims that the CIA operated a "black site" prison on Diego Garcia, an island in the Indian Ocean. http://www.worthynews.com/news/upi-com-New...e_island-5460-/ Worth making note that the reason this is being raised in the British parliament is that the allegations are about prisoners being abused in an American gaol in an British colony - so British sovereign territory. Also worth mentioning the evil treatment of the indigenous lBritish passport holding, local population by the British authorities, deporting them to live in squalor in Mauritius to meet the requirements of their American tenants. By the way, houldn't this be in international rather than US news. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ted Posted October 20, 2007 Group: Royal Member Followers: 2 Topic Count: 276 Topics Per Day: 0.04 Content Count: 7,474 Content Per Day: 0.96 Reputation: 51 Days Won: 0 Joined: 02/25/2003 Status: Offline Birthday: 01/31/1966 Share Posted October 20, 2007 Moved to World News area. t. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boblandis Posted October 21, 2007 Group: Royal Member Followers: 2 Topic Count: 252 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 1,859 Content Per Day: 0.22 Reputation: 27 Days Won: 0 Joined: 09/04/2001 Status: Offline Birthday: 03/16/1963 Share Posted October 21, 2007 I don't understand what this has to do with the price of tea in China. Guantanamo prisoners are equating themselves with a secret prision? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hr.jr. Posted October 21, 2007 Group: Senior Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 1 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 615 Content Per Day: 0.09 Reputation: 12 Days Won: 1 Joined: 05/21/2006 Status: Offline Share Posted October 21, 2007 I hope the CIA has plenty of secret prisons. We are fighting World War III. We had better get our heads out of the sand and wake up to the fact. Beginning with General Sherman, the United States government officially adoped a strategy to WIN wars. It revolved around "Breaking the will of the people to fight." Sherman did not take the war to the armies of Johnson and later Hood. He took the war to the people of Georgia. He broke their will to support an army; then the army crumbled. We continued this in every war since that time until Viet Nam. WE LOST VIET NAM!!! In WWII, we took that fight to the people of Germany, not the army. We carpet bombed the civilian populations of Germany. We dropped ordinance of all type on civilian centers. We used incindiary bombs to level cities. WHY? We wanted to win the war. What was the "strategic value" of the two nuclear bombs dropped on Japan? None! Where were they dropped? Huge civilian centers. WHY? Break the will of the people to fight! This country USED to know how to WIN A WAR! Now, WE HAVE NO CLUE how to win a war! You do not win a war by destroying an army. The populous will raise another army. You win a war by breaking the will of the PEOPLE to fight. We seem to have forgotten this long held military fact. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nebula Posted October 21, 2007 Group: Royal Member Followers: 10 Topic Count: 5,823 Topics Per Day: 0.75 Content Count: 45,870 Content Per Day: 5.93 Reputation: 1,897 Days Won: 83 Joined: 03/22/2003 Status: Offline Birthday: 11/19/1970 Share Posted October 21, 2007 Ouch! Which side's people have lost the will to fight? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burning_Ember Posted October 21, 2007 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 21 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 2,009 Content Per Day: 0.29 Reputation: 100 Days Won: 3 Joined: 09/20/2005 Status: Offline Share Posted October 21, 2007 You win a war by breaking the will of the PEOPLE to fight. We seem to have forgotten this long held military fact. So using examples from previous history like nukes and other tragedies, what do you suggest be done in Iraq, seeing as we are not fighting a country, but an extremist ideology? Anything that involves carpet bombing, or firebombing, or nuking anything in Iraq would only ferment the views that the U.S. is a brutal, evil nation that seeks to kill innocents rather than hunt terrorists. You'll kill a lot more innocent people than terrorists, lose the support we have in Iraq, as well as across the world that way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wvpeach Posted October 22, 2007 Group: Nonbeliever Followers: 0 Topic Count: 0 Topics Per Day: 0 Content Count: 35 Content Per Day: 0.01 Reputation: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 10/19/2007 Status: Offline Share Posted October 22, 2007 When they came for a man in my country .... I didn't care, it wasn't me. When they came for a man in my state........I didn't care, it wasn't me. When they came for a man in my town....... I didn't care , it wasn't me. When they came for my neighbor .............I didn't care, it wasn't me. When they came for me ................Nobody was left to care. Secret prisons are a problem anytime , anywhere. If it cannot be done in the light of day and in the open , you can be sure it comes from Satan not out Lord. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boblandis Posted October 22, 2007 Group: Royal Member Followers: 2 Topic Count: 252 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 1,859 Content Per Day: 0.22 Reputation: 27 Days Won: 0 Joined: 09/04/2001 Status: Offline Birthday: 03/16/1963 Share Posted October 22, 2007 If it cannot be done in the light of day and in the open , you can be sure it comes from Satan not out Lord. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hr.jr. Posted October 22, 2007 Group: Senior Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 1 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 615 Content Per Day: 0.09 Reputation: 12 Days Won: 1 Joined: 05/21/2006 Status: Offline Share Posted October 22, 2007 You win a war by breaking the will of the PEOPLE to fight. We seem to have forgotten this long held military fact. So using examples from previous history like nukes and other tragedies, what do you suggest be done in Iraq, seeing as we are not fighting a country, but an extremist ideology? Anything that involves carpet bombing, or firebombing, or nuking anything in Iraq would only ferment the views that the U.S. is a brutal, evil nation that seeks to kill innocents rather than hunt terrorists. You'll kill a lot more innocent people than terrorists, lose the support we have in Iraq, as well as across the world that way. Iraq is almost a lost cause. We should have gone in on day one and launched a WWII type battle strategy. Dessimate the land. Bomb it and burn what is left, but either way destroy it. Then, Just as we did in Germany and Japan, rebuild the nation. It worked in Germany and Japan, it would have worked in Iraq. I would love to see how General Sherman would handle Iraq. If the man were still alive and given absolute free hand, He would have the country under control in two weeks. The world already thinks we are a Brutal "empire building" nation. The world perception of us could not be worse than it already is. The only difference lies in that if we fought wars the way we used to, we would win them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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