Scarletprayers Posted January 1, 2008 Group: Royal Member Followers: 2 Topic Count: 135 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 7,537 Content Per Day: 1.08 Reputation: 157 Days Won: 2 Joined: 04/06/2005 Status: Offline Birthday: 09/29/1956 Share Posted January 1, 2008 You know.............I have sat here and jumped up and down, and as much as I hate to admit it, gotten angry at some of the post here and yet, while reading something above that Vickilynn said and was suddently convicted about something I'm doing that basically boils down to the same thing.......... Thank you Lord................ and please forgive me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yahsway Posted January 1, 2008 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 2 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 657 Content Per Day: 0.09 Reputation: 3 Days Won: 0 Joined: 08/20/2004 Status: Offline Birthday: 02/15/1959 Share Posted January 1, 2008 Hey Vickilynn, Love you sister and just for the record I am your Sister! LOL okay so ya probably didnt know that! Shalom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vickilynn Posted January 1, 2008 Group: Royal Member Followers: 2 Topic Count: 138 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 3,997 Content Per Day: 0.63 Reputation: 19 Days Won: 0 Joined: 02/13/2007 Status: Offline Author Share Posted January 1, 2008 Hey Vickilynn, Love you sister and just for the record I am your Sister! LOL okay so ya probably didnt know that! Shalom Shalom Sister, Oh I'm SO sorry!! With some screen names, you just can't tell gender. I edited the other post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sierra21 Posted January 2, 2008 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 160 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 2,000 Content Per Day: 0.31 Reputation: 1 Days Won: 0 Joined: 07/07/2006 Status: Offline Birthday: 01/30/1983 Share Posted January 2, 2008 For those of you that know me and my educational background you know that I could argue some of these ideas TO THE GROUND. But I also know that these arguments never end, and it's easier to just smile and nod. However, for the record, I agree fullheartedly with the OP. Scarletprayers, i'm sorry you have been so hurt by some of the comments, you don't deserve that. That's all I have to say about that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scarletprayers Posted January 2, 2008 Group: Royal Member Followers: 2 Topic Count: 135 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 7,537 Content Per Day: 1.08 Reputation: 157 Days Won: 2 Joined: 04/06/2005 Status: Offline Birthday: 09/29/1956 Share Posted January 2, 2008 For those of you that know me and my educational background you know that I could argue some of these ideas TO THE GROUND. But I also know that these arguments never end, and it's easier to just smile and nod. However, for the record, I agree fullheartedly with the OP. Scarletprayers, i'm sorry you have been so hurt by some of the comments, you don't deserve that. That's all I have to say about that. I'm okay sierra, but thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vickilynn Posted January 2, 2008 Group: Royal Member Followers: 2 Topic Count: 138 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 3,997 Content Per Day: 0.63 Reputation: 19 Days Won: 0 Joined: 02/13/2007 Status: Offline Author Share Posted January 2, 2008 For those of you that know me and my educational background you know that I could argue some of these ideas TO THE GROUND. But I also know that these arguments never end, and it's easier to just smile and nod. However, for the record, I agree fullheartedly with the OP. Scarletprayers, i'm sorry you have been so hurt by some of the comments, you don't deserve that. That's all I have to say about that. Shalom Sierra, Just curious, WHAT ideas could you argue to the ground? That's what this thread is for! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sierra21 Posted January 2, 2008 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 160 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 2,000 Content Per Day: 0.31 Reputation: 1 Days Won: 0 Joined: 07/07/2006 Status: Offline Birthday: 01/30/1983 Share Posted January 2, 2008 For those of you that know me and my educational background you know that I could argue some of these ideas TO THE GROUND. But I also know that these arguments never end, and it's easier to just smile and nod. However, for the record, I agree fullheartedly with the OP. Scarletprayers, i'm sorry you have been so hurt by some of the comments, you don't deserve that. That's all I have to say about that. Shalom Sierra, Just curious, WHAT ideas could you argue to the ground? That's what this thread is for! NOthing that disagrees with what you've said. But in my present state (9 months pregnant) I just really don't have the energy to get "into it" with anyone right now. I'm sure you can understand. Perhaps in a couple months we could discuss these issues more via PM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sierra21 Posted January 2, 2008 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 160 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 2,000 Content Per Day: 0.31 Reputation: 1 Days Won: 0 Joined: 07/07/2006 Status: Offline Birthday: 01/30/1983 Share Posted January 2, 2008 For those of you that know me and my educational background you know that I could argue some of these ideas TO THE GROUND. But I also know that these arguments never end, and it's easier to just smile and nod. However, for the record, I agree fullheartedly with the OP. Scarletprayers, i'm sorry you have been so hurt by some of the comments, you don't deserve that. That's all I have to say about that. I'm okay sierra, but thanks! X 5million Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vickilynn Posted January 2, 2008 Group: Royal Member Followers: 2 Topic Count: 138 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 3,997 Content Per Day: 0.63 Reputation: 19 Days Won: 0 Joined: 02/13/2007 Status: Offline Author Share Posted January 2, 2008 NOthing that disagrees with what you've said. Shalom Sierra, That's encouraging! And interesting as well. But in my present state (9 months pregnant) I just really don't have the energy to get "into it" with anyone right now. I'm sure you can understand. Perhaps in a couple months we could discuss these issues more via PM. Certainly. I just didn't know why you didn't want to discuss, I wanted you to know that all views are welcome here! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vickilynn Posted January 2, 2008 Group: Royal Member Followers: 2 Topic Count: 138 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 3,997 Content Per Day: 0.63 Reputation: 19 Days Won: 0 Joined: 02/13/2007 Status: Offline Author Share Posted January 2, 2008 Shalom, The next step....now that we have established that not all mental illness is unrepentant sin and some of these truly ill people cannot "just repent and get over it", the question comes in HOW to handle some of the things that they do that are: sin self-destructive harmful to others hurtful to others criminal We, as their loved ones have a responsibility to love them, forgive them and bear with them in their illness, but what can we do to help them and not enable them? Well, as simple as it sounds, sometimes, it is difficult. Pray, pray, pray! Always believing that G-d knows what this person needs and let Him guide you! They MUST be shown the truth of their actions from the Word, in gentleness and love, not in condemnation. And since most of these ill people cannot see their true self and how harmful their actions are, we must show them the Word over and over and over... AND we must be willing to get them help, even if they don't want it. I had to take someone against their will to the hospital because they were clinically depressed and suicidal. They did not want to go, but we had to intervene for their life. Any other thoughts on how to help (without condemnation) these people who are really mentally ill? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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