RustyAngeL Posted January 20, 2008 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 23 Topic Count: 155 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 7,464 Content Per Day: 1.02 Reputation: 8,810 Days Won: 57 Joined: 03/30/2004 Status: Offline Birthday: 12/12/1952 Share Posted January 20, 2008 : that's not doubletalk, it's common sense, and is exactly what i've ALWAYS felt should be done. would you rather the parents be sent back while their children were placed in foster homes? the child's place is with the parents. if the parents aren't supposed to be here, they should be given a one way ticket home, and be afforded the GENEROUS priviledge of being ALLOWED to take their children with them. Thank you and I agree! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MorningGlory Posted January 20, 2008 Group: Royal Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 1,022 Topics Per Day: 0.16 Content Count: 39,193 Content Per Day: 6.09 Reputation: 9,977 Days Won: 78 Joined: 10/01/2006 Status: Offline Share Posted January 20, 2008 danny, my initial position (of total agreement with that) changed also when someone pointed out that birthright citizenship is constitutionally guaranteed. deporting the entire family would actually be more beneficial anyway, because it gets more illegals back across the border. and in today's social climate, might be easier to enforce such laws than to try and pass a constitutional ammendment on the issue. so i don't see his comment as a reversal of his opinion rather than a revision of an opinion based on the wisdom of knowing that his first idea would probably never pass the mustard. that's a smart man. Lady C, I was just talking to someone about this today! It would be nearly impossible to pass that amendment. Give me a realist over pie-in-the-sky politicians any day. I was really unhappy to learn that Gov. Huckabee lost out (barely) to John McCain in South Carolina. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
O'Dannyboy Posted January 21, 2008 Group: Royal Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 156 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 3,454 Content Per Day: 0.48 Reputation: 4 Days Won: 0 Joined: 09/22/2004 Status: Offline Birthday: 07/02/1969 Share Posted January 21, 2008 My point here is that as Axxman highlighted is that Huckabee, dispite all his Christian overtones, has shown himself to be a consumate politician. He will say whatever he thinks will win him the election. Give me a candidate whose positions on the issues reflect his record as well as echo what he has said from the beginning. I'd just asume put a Morman in office as I would someone who talks out both sides of their mouth. I'm not concerned with his sense of "realism". Is he somehow more realistic than he was a couple months ago? If he meant what he said, in the first place, then he would not have changed his position at any point. It's not like he didn't understand how difficult passing an ammendment would be, it's that he was blowing smoke up our backsides. How can I trust what he says about the other issued if he can so easily change his mind about that one. How about his stance on a smoking ban? If a man's dishonest to obtain a job, he'll be dishonest on the job. Iowans deserve better. Check the sources here. Here is more evidence of his flip flopping. This time about Gitmo. Airing out Mikes Laundry. The only thing I am urging here is that we all do our research and hopefully head each others council with regards to who may or may not be the best candidate. At this point I cannot trust that Mike Huckbees positions on the issues is genuine and therefor I am still undecided as to whom I will support. I had high hopes for Huckabee but he, like president Bush, has not lived up to the hype. Once again, given the candidates, we may be forced to vote for the person who stands the best chance of keeping A liberal from becomming president. Sadly, I fear this may not be enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MorningGlory Posted January 21, 2008 Group: Royal Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 1,022 Topics Per Day: 0.16 Content Count: 39,193 Content Per Day: 6.09 Reputation: 9,977 Days Won: 78 Joined: 10/01/2006 Status: Offline Share Posted January 21, 2008 I'd just asume put a Morman in office as I would someone who talks out both sides of their mouth. The only thing I am urging here is that we all do our research and hopefully head each others council with regards to who may or may not be the best candidate. At this point I cannot trust that Mike Huckbees positions on the issues is genuine and therefor I am still undecided as to whom I will support. I had high hopes for Huckabee but he, like president Bush, has not lived up to the hype. Once again, given the candidates, we may be forced to vote for the person who stands the best chance of keeping A liberal from becomming president. Sadly, I fear this may not be enough. Research tells me that the Mormon has done more gymnastics in the past couple of years than our Olympic team! He's, by no means, the only one who has but he holds the record for number. This link is to an Op-Ed piece but the same facts were reported on Meet The Press a while back. I would vote for Hillary before I would Mr. Romney. http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/conte...7021900916.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
O'Dannyboy Posted January 21, 2008 Group: Royal Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 156 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 3,454 Content Per Day: 0.48 Reputation: 4 Days Won: 0 Joined: 09/22/2004 Status: Offline Birthday: 07/02/1969 Share Posted January 21, 2008 I would vote for Hillary before I would Mr. Romney. Ouch! thats Harsh and it says alot. So whos your top choice so far? And why? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Axxman Posted January 21, 2008 Group: Royal Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 24 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 3,292 Content Per Day: 0.52 Reputation: 11 Days Won: 0 Joined: 01/21/2007 Status: Offline Share Posted January 21, 2008 I'd just asume put a Morman in office as I would someone who talks out both sides of their mouth. The only thing I am urging here is that we all do our research and hopefully head each others council with regards to who may or may not be the best candidate. At this point I cannot trust that Mike Huckbees positions on the issues is genuine and therefor I am still undecided as to whom I will support. I had high hopes for Huckabee but he, like president Bush, has not lived up to the hype. Once again, given the candidates, we may be forced to vote for the person who stands the best chance of keeping A liberal from becomming president. Sadly, I fear this may not be enough. Research tells me that the Mormon has done more gymnastics in the past couple of years than our Olympic team! He's, by no means, the only one who has but he holds the record for number. This link is to an Op-Ed piece but the same facts were reported on Meet The Press a while back. I would vote for Hillary before I would Mr. Romney. http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/conte...7021900916.html LOL..you have to go back to the mid-90's to find Romney siding with gay rights and abortion. You have to back to last MONTH to see Huckabee's flip flops! Heck, even I've changed my opinion on some things since 10-14 yrs ago. I don't see how a Christian person could seriously vote for Clinton or Obama given their record of supporting murder and abominations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MorningGlory Posted January 22, 2008 Group: Royal Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 1,022 Topics Per Day: 0.16 Content Count: 39,193 Content Per Day: 6.09 Reputation: 9,977 Days Won: 78 Joined: 10/01/2006 Status: Offline Share Posted January 22, 2008 I would vote for Hillary before I would Mr. Romney. Ouch! thats Harsh and it says alot. So whos your top choice so far? And why? My choice is Mike Huckabee; failing that John McCain. If Romney gets the nomination I will simply not be a Republican anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MorningGlory Posted January 22, 2008 Group: Royal Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 1,022 Topics Per Day: 0.16 Content Count: 39,193 Content Per Day: 6.09 Reputation: 9,977 Days Won: 78 Joined: 10/01/2006 Status: Offline Share Posted January 22, 2008 I'd just asume put a Morman in office as I would someone who talks out both sides of their mouth. The only thing I am urging here is that we all do our research and hopefully head each others council with regards to who may or may not be the best candidate. At this point I cannot trust that Mike Huckbees positions on the issues is genuine and therefor I am still undecided as to whom I will support. I had high hopes for Huckabee but he, like president Bush, has not lived up to the hype. Once again, given the candidates, we may be forced to vote for the person who stands the best chance of keeping A liberal from becomming president. Sadly, I fear this may not be enough. Research tells me that the Mormon has done more gymnastics in the past couple of years than our Olympic team! He's, by no means, the only one who has but he holds the record for number. This link is to an Op-Ed piece but the same facts were reported on Meet The Press a while back. I would vote for Hillary before I would Mr. Romney. http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/conte...7021900916.html LOL..you have to go back to the mid-90's to find Romney siding with gay rights and abortion. You have to back to last MONTH to see Huckabee's flip flops! Heck, even I've changed my opinion on some things since 10-14 yrs ago. I don't see how a Christian person could seriously vote for Clinton or Obama given their record of supporting murder and abominations. Well, this Christian person would rather gag and vote for Hillary Clinton (who is, at least, smart) than vote for a card carrying member of a satanic cult. I would never vote for Barak Obama though; no amount of rationalizing would make that work for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Axxman Posted January 22, 2008 Group: Royal Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 24 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 3,292 Content Per Day: 0.52 Reputation: 11 Days Won: 0 Joined: 01/21/2007 Status: Offline Share Posted January 22, 2008 Well, this Christian person would rather gag and vote for Hillary Clinton (who is, at least, smart) than vote for a card carrying member of a satanic cult. I would never vote for Barak Obama though; no amount of rationalizing would make that work for me. Thats about the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard. Technically, there is only ONE true church...so you could say that EVERYONE else is a card carrying member of the satanic church, including Hillary since she preaches humanism and agnosticism. I'm guessing you know very little about the modern Mormon church and its beliefs. I will agree that Hillary is smart...but she supports murdering babies and homosexuality too...so she isn't exactly moral. I'll take a mormon with morals, over a Christian with none, anyday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest LadyC Posted January 22, 2008 Share Posted January 22, 2008 butero, i don't think i've ever heard or read hillary claim to be a christian. she claims to be a woman of faith. there is a huge difference... or at least there CAN be a huge difference. i've never heard her testify to Christ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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