Fraught Posted February 17, 2008 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 2 Topic Count: 105 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 1,741 Content Per Day: 0.28 Reputation: 28 Days Won: 0 Joined: 07/23/2007 Status: Offline Birthday: 07/30/1959 Share Posted February 17, 2008 another take on this subject involves the whole idea of being born again. before i was conceived, i wasn't really alive. a recurring thought of mine is that there are other walking, talking humans on the planet but if they are not born again, they are not really alive in God's eyes the same way you and i are alive. could be considered controversial maybe but then again being born again means having God's spirit within. the opposite side of the coin would be not being born again equals not having God's spirit within. something to think about anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Axxman Posted February 18, 2008 Group: Royal Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 24 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 3,292 Content Per Day: 0.52 Reputation: 11 Days Won: 0 Joined: 01/21/2007 Status: Offline Share Posted February 18, 2008 You know the rest of the story. The Pharisees were not allowed to see that he was the messiah because they were not following God. They were blinded to who Jesus really was so that they would have him put to death. That was the true reason why he came. To die and tear the veil in the temple from top to bottom, revealing the way of salvation for all to come. Has this been re-veiled to you as well? I think it is also important to note that because of their disobedience, God rejected them and didn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tsth Posted February 18, 2008 Group: Royal Member Followers: 2 Topic Count: 297 Topics Per Day: 0.04 Content Count: 5,586 Content Per Day: 0.69 Reputation: 193 Days Won: 1 Joined: 04/09/2002 Status: Offline Share Posted February 18, 2008 You know the rest of the story. The Pharisees were not allowed to see that he was the messiah because they were not following God. They were blinded to who Jesus really was so that they would have him put to death. That was the true reason why he came. To die and tear the veil in the temple from top to bottom, revealing the way of salvation for all to come. Has this been re-veiled to you as well? I think it is also important to note that because of their disobedience, God rejected them and didn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patricia1 Posted February 18, 2008 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 44 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 1,858 Content Per Day: 0.30 Reputation: 9 Days Won: 0 Joined: 07/24/2007 Status: Offline Birthday: 05/23/1957 Share Posted February 18, 2008 God loves all I guess except for Esau.... lol.. He does not want any to perish but many will for many refuse to accept Christ... Hey thats the way it is. God will judge those who do not come to his loving saving knowledge. The greek words pertaining to love have four different interpretations..maybe more. another doctrine another falsehood. Now there is the word love I guess i lost count at 300 scriptures...then there is loved about 96 times ..probably more. Then there is lovedst which is mentioned twice, The word loves~~four times. Loveth 63 times. Lovest 12 times. loving three times ahh this is getting boring....lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EricH Posted February 20, 2008 Group: Royal Member Followers: 3 Topic Count: 366 Topics Per Day: 0.05 Content Count: 10,933 Content Per Day: 1.56 Reputation: 212 Days Won: 1 Joined: 04/21/2005 Status: Offline Share Posted February 20, 2008 Patricia1 wrote: God loves all I guess except for Esau.... lol.. He does not want any to perish but many will for many refuse to accept Christ... Hey thats the way it is. God will judge those who do not come to his loving saving knowledge. The greek words pertaining to love have four different interpretations..maybe more. another doctrine another falsehood. Now there is the word love I guess i lost count at 300 scriptures...then there is loved about 96 times ..probably more. Then there is lovedst which is mentioned twice, The word loves~~four times. Loveth 63 times. Lovest 12 times. loving three times ahh this is getting boring....lol I thought Shiloh would be right on this with some Greek and Hebrew meanings here so I left this alone. Esau was not hated by God as a person, but much later as a nation that persecuted Israel as they came out of Egypt. (I Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthitjah Posted February 20, 2008 Group: Royal Member Followers: 4 Topic Count: 1,285 Topics Per Day: 0.16 Content Count: 17,917 Content Per Day: 2.26 Reputation: 355 Days Won: 19 Joined: 10/01/2002 Status: Offline Share Posted February 20, 2008 Grace to you, God is very clear about why this hatred of Esau came about; Heb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jc49 Posted February 20, 2008 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 2 Topic Count: 82 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 498 Content Per Day: 0.07 Reputation: 7 Days Won: 0 Joined: 10/10/2004 Status: Offline Birthday: 01/25/1949 Share Posted February 20, 2008 I know wolves can dress up in sheeps clothing but to even consider the possibility of this rattled me. http://elvis.rowan.edu/~kilroy/CHRISTIA/li...y/whomdoes.html I'm hoping someone will tell me this is a sick joke. Dan the guy is a nut Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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