kat8585 Posted March 9, 2008 Group: Royal Member Followers: 3 Topic Count: 1,360 Topics Per Day: 0.21 Content Count: 7,866 Content Per Day: 1.24 Reputation: 26 Days Won: 0 Joined: 11/22/2006 Status: Offline Birthday: 04/18/1946 Share Posted March 9, 2008 Besides, information about highly sensitive operations are not limited to one person who is incarcerated ! Exactly. But that one person may have a lot of info on others who aren't incarcerated, and are planning our demise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kat8585 Posted March 9, 2008 Group: Royal Member Followers: 3 Topic Count: 1,360 Topics Per Day: 0.21 Content Count: 7,866 Content Per Day: 1.24 Reputation: 26 Days Won: 0 Joined: 11/22/2006 Status: Offline Birthday: 04/18/1946 Share Posted March 9, 2008 It's not that they have to use waterboarding or would chose to employ it in every situation but they should not rule it out as a last resort. We might as well try and tickle our enemies to death or play them rap music for all the methods they wish to eliminate in the name of human rights. The democratic leaders sit backpreaching to Bush about moral authority and they are the ones who advocate abortions and homosexuality. They really do have it all backwards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burning_Ember Posted March 9, 2008 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 21 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 2,009 Content Per Day: 0.30 Reputation: 100 Days Won: 3 Joined: 09/20/2005 Status: Offline Share Posted March 9, 2008 Because Gay Marriage is equally horrifying in comparison to water torture. Uh, what? I love how do not turn the other cheek, treat others as you wish to be treated, and love thy neighbour go right out the window in fear of terrorism. It took a while, but after reading this thread, I'm convinced people advocating water torture are on a certain level very afraid of terrorism. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kat8585 Posted March 9, 2008 Group: Royal Member Followers: 3 Topic Count: 1,360 Topics Per Day: 0.21 Content Count: 7,866 Content Per Day: 1.24 Reputation: 26 Days Won: 0 Joined: 11/22/2006 Status: Offline Birthday: 04/18/1946 Share Posted March 9, 2008 It took a while, but after reading this thread, I'm convinced people advocating water torture are on a certain level very afraid of terrorism. That would be correct. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest LadyC Posted March 9, 2008 Share Posted March 9, 2008 i just love when "turn the other cheek" is so unbiblically applied. the CONTEXT of turn the other cheek is about PERSONAL vengeance. it is not about warfare. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nebula Posted March 9, 2008 Group: Royal Member Followers: 10 Topic Count: 5,823 Topics Per Day: 0.76 Content Count: 45,870 Content Per Day: 5.95 Reputation: 1,897 Days Won: 83 Joined: 03/22/2003 Status: Offline Birthday: 11/19/1970 Share Posted March 9, 2008 And "turn the other cheek" was not meant to be applied to someone who is trying to kill you. Slapping someone on the right cheek was considered an insult - for to hit a person on the right cheek, you have to hit the person with either the back of the right hand or with the left hand - both being symbols of demeaning the one struck. To turn the other cheek would best be translated: When someone is a jerk towards you, don't be a jerk back. Governments have the Biblical right and mandate to defend its citizens from harm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nebula Posted March 9, 2008 Group: Royal Member Followers: 10 Topic Count: 5,823 Topics Per Day: 0.76 Content Count: 45,870 Content Per Day: 5.95 Reputation: 1,897 Days Won: 83 Joined: 03/22/2003 Status: Offline Birthday: 11/19/1970 Share Posted March 9, 2008 It is absolutely wrong to institutionalize torture. BTW - there are many who disagree that waterboarding is really "torture". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest LadyC Posted March 9, 2008 Share Posted March 9, 2008 our own marines go through worse "torture" than waterboarding on the orders of their drill seargents during basic training. i bet most marines would have far rather endured 30 minutes of waterboarding than three months of what they have to endure at parris island SC. just ask one of them sometime. particularly one who is still IN boot camp. and then for the ones who decide to go into special ops or become navy seals, my gosh, waterboarding would be a cakewalk. and yet, they volunteer for what they go through. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chimoku Posted March 9, 2008 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 24 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 270 Content Per Day: 0.04 Reputation: 1 Days Won: 0 Joined: 03/31/2005 Status: Offline Author Share Posted March 9, 2008 - Aside from the practice of torture being brutal and inhuman, and not becoming a civilized nation, torture is a direct violation of the Geneva Convention. (Article 17): "No physical or mental torture, nor any other form of coercion, may be inflicted on prisoners of war to secure from them information of any kind whatever. Prisoners of war who refuse to answer may not be threatened, insulted or exposed to unpleasant or disadvantageous treatment of any kind." It is just as unacceptable for us to mistreat prisoners of war, as it is for any other nation or group to mistreat our men/women. - Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Biblicist Posted March 9, 2008 Share Posted March 9, 2008 And "turn the other cheek" was not meant to be applied to someone who is trying to kill you. Slapping someone on the right cheek was considered an insult - for to hit a person on the right cheek, you have to hit the person with either the back of the right hand or with the left hand - both being symbols of demeaning the one struck. To turn the other cheek would best be translated: When someone is a jerk towards you, don't be a jerk back. Governments have the Biblical right and mandate to defend its citizens from harm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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