~~ angelique ~~ Posted March 21, 2008 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 85 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 665 Content Per Day: 0.11 Reputation: 2 Days Won: 0 Joined: 11/11/2007 Status: Offline Birthday: 06/24/1968 Share Posted March 21, 2008 I have been searching the net on Jewish methods of looking at the bible. Can people give me thoughts on the PaRDeS method? [url=http://www.betemunah.org/remez.html] xsrp - PaRDeS is the Hebrew word for orchard. Pardes is actually a roshei teivot (literally, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~pearl Posted March 21, 2008 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 2 Topic Count: 17 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 700 Content Per Day: 0.12 Reputation: 3 Days Won: 0 Joined: 10/17/2007 Status: Offline Birthday: 12/11/1977 Share Posted March 21, 2008 Hi Angel, Recently Jade did a wonderful study on Pardes. You may want to try and contact her. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ayin jade Posted March 21, 2008 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 44 Topic Count: 6,178 Topics Per Day: 0.87 Content Count: 43,799 Content Per Day: 6.19 Reputation: 11,244 Days Won: 58 Joined: 01/03/2005 Status: Online Share Posted March 21, 2008 Pardes can be an interesting way of looking at the Old Testament, but it also has ties to kabbalistic teachings if one isnt careful. Since you mentioned the orchard, it seems as if you are looking at sites that have kabbala teachings. Stay away from that. I will pm you and show you what I was taught, which is really how we read the bible anyway. I urge you to avoid teachings that refer to the garden and walls. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scarletprayers Posted March 21, 2008 Group: Royal Member Followers: 2 Topic Count: 135 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 7,537 Content Per Day: 1.08 Reputation: 157 Days Won: 2 Joined: 04/06/2005 Status: Offline Birthday: 09/29/1956 Share Posted March 21, 2008 Pardes can be an interesting way of looking at the Old Testament, but it also has ties to kabbalistic teachings if one isnt careful. Since you mentioned the orchard, it seems as if you are looking at sites that have kabbala teachings. Stay away from that. I will pm you and show you what I was taught, which is really how we read the bible anyway. I urge you to avoid teachings that refer to the garden and walls. I wouldn't mind knowing either Jade if you don't mind pm'ing me also! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trusting Jesus Posted March 22, 2008 Group: Royal Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 66 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 2,050 Content Per Day: 0.34 Reputation: 22 Days Won: 0 Joined: 09/12/2007 Status: Offline Birthday: 09/09/1952 Share Posted March 22, 2008 I really enjoy studying the Jewish perspective on the Bible. Remember though, it is important to get to know Jesus. The Old Testament points towards Jesus, and the Jews are still looking for Messiah. It is very interesting to learn about different ideas, but concentrate on getting to know Jesus first. I think it will add to your confussion to look into these other things. <>< ><> Nathele Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~~ angelique ~~ Posted March 23, 2008 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 85 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 665 Content Per Day: 0.11 Reputation: 2 Days Won: 0 Joined: 11/11/2007 Status: Offline Birthday: 06/24/1968 Author Share Posted March 23, 2008 Okay, here is another question on this topic.... In the new testament, Paul and other writers refer to old testament passages, were they using the remez aspect of this? I mean, when they quoted that partial passage did the people remember the context from the old testment? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Bernall Posted April 2, 2008 Group: Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 6 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 55 Content Per Day: 0.01 Reputation: 1 Days Won: 0 Joined: 11/09/2013 Status: Offline Birthday: 12/26/1969 Share Posted April 2, 2008 Okay, here is another question on this topic.... In the new testament, Paul and other writers refer to old testament passages, were they using the remez aspect of this? I mean, when they quoted that partial passage did the people remember the context from the old testment? Shalom Angelique, i would say it is a little bit of both Remez and a kind of reversed engineered D'rash. though you have "allegorical explanation" for D'rash, literally it means "Investigate" or "Search". Since what has been searched for and investigated has been found in Mashi'ach, they are pointing out in the Scriptures where these "clues" came from. i think i know i what i said... i dunno... my brain's mush Chesed v'Rachamim, Z'ev Yochanan ~זאב יוחנן~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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