followerofjesus Posted May 16, 2008 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 31 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 1,013 Content Per Day: 0.14 Reputation: 5 Days Won: 0 Joined: 03/08/2004 Status: Offline Share Posted May 16, 2008 The Waco tragedy was disturbing to say the least. There was multiple times when the leader was in town and could have been taken peacefully but the executive order was given to go in w/ guns a blazin. The Bill of Rights that was once recognized is now a historical artifact. We shouldn't agree w/ the accusations coming out of the camps but we should analyze the source and the means. The end does not justify the means. We shouldn't rob Peter to pay Paul so to speak. What if......... the media is transmitting the FCC controlled reports to form public opinion ?It has already been made. CNN already has them sent to the gallows. What if they are totally innocent? How would the public know? They 've already been tried in the court of public opinion. If anyone has been falsely accused of anything knows the betrayal of it. Well...... they dress wierd...... they talk different.........they believe different........ummm. they must be guilty!!!....... thats is ...take their children away ...we will sort it out ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
His_Own Posted May 16, 2008 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 2 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 127 Content Per Day: 0.02 Reputation: 1 Days Won: 0 Joined: 03/21/2008 Status: Offline Share Posted May 16, 2008 Where did they get the authority to decide what is best for our children? Who ever gave any "State" authority to be parents of our children? Where is that power given to those who refuse to acknowledge His Laws? Show me the reference in the Bible where this is acceptable. We are to "give unto Ceasar the things that are Ceasar's and to G-d the things that are G-d's." How dare we give what is His to Ceasar! When did we start believing that our children belong to Ceasar and not to G-d? Show me, in His Word, where He has given His little ones to be parented by a godless state. Excellent question. Those who support the taking of the children, what is your scriptural basis for this? The "state" (seems to) believe it is the ultimate parent, that the children belong ultimately belong to the state and not the parent. Do you agree with that? If so, what is the biblical authority for that? If it is not biblical, then what is the reason you say that this is best for the children? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scarletprayers Posted May 16, 2008 Group: Royal Member Followers: 2 Topic Count: 135 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 7,537 Content Per Day: 1.08 Reputation: 157 Days Won: 2 Joined: 04/06/2005 Status: Offline Birthday: 09/29/1956 Share Posted May 16, 2008 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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faith pleases God Posted May 17, 2008 Group: Senior Member Followers: 6 Topic Count: 10 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 653 Content Per Day: 0.11 Reputation: 189 Days Won: 0 Joined: 11/18/2007 Status: Offline Birthday: 03/26/1977 Share Posted May 17, 2008 Only 2 arrests took place but over 400 children taken. This does not occur where freedom exists. http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=...mp;pageId=61971 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Axxman Posted May 18, 2008 Group: Royal Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 24 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 3,292 Content Per Day: 0.52 Reputation: 11 Days Won: 0 Joined: 01/21/2007 Status: Offline Share Posted May 18, 2008 Only 2 arrests took place but over 400 children taken. This does not occur where freedom exists. http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=...mp;pageId=61971 It should be noted that the arrests did not take place first. The order to remove the children came before ANY arrest. The arrests happened because these two men tried to defend their property and their families and did not fully comply with officers. That is the risk they took and they have to answer for it in court. Of course, the precident has been set now that the gov't can determine whatever they want about your beliefs and how that applies to your parenting and they can remove your children based on WHATEVER criteria they can come up with...and arrest you if you don't let them. I gather some of you are okay with that.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faith pleases God Posted May 18, 2008 Group: Senior Member Followers: 6 Topic Count: 10 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 653 Content Per Day: 0.11 Reputation: 189 Days Won: 0 Joined: 11/18/2007 Status: Offline Birthday: 03/26/1977 Share Posted May 18, 2008 Only 2 arrests took place but over 400 children taken. This does not occur where freedom exists. http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=...mp;pageId=61971 It should be noted that the arrests did not take place first. The order to remove the children came before ANY arrest. The arrests happened because these two men tried to defend their property and their families and did not fully comply with officers. That is the risk they took and they have to answer for it in court. Of course, the precident has been set now that the gov't can determine whatever they want about your beliefs and how that applies to your parenting and they can remove your children based on WHATEVER criteria they can come up with...and arrest you if you don't let them. I gather some of you are okay with that.... " " huh scarlet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redwing Posted May 18, 2008 Group: Royal Member Followers: 2 Topic Count: 400 Topics Per Day: 0.07 Content Count: 1,903 Content Per Day: 0.31 Reputation: 15 Days Won: 0 Joined: 08/20/2007 Status: Offline Birthday: 04/19/1942 Author Share Posted May 18, 2008 i'm not okwith a pregnate 13 yr. old, a 16 yr. old with 3 babies, a child with 40 broken bones due to in breeding. i gather some are ok with this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scarletprayers Posted May 18, 2008 Group: Royal Member Followers: 2 Topic Count: 135 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 7,537 Content Per Day: 1.08 Reputation: 157 Days Won: 2 Joined: 04/06/2005 Status: Offline Birthday: 09/29/1956 Share Posted May 18, 2008 Only 2 arrests took place but over 400 children taken. This does not occur where freedom exists. http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=...mp;pageId=61971 It should be noted that the arrests did not take place first. The order to remove the children came before ANY arrest. The arrests happened because these two men tried to defend their property and their families and did not fully comply with officers. That is the risk they took and they have to answer for it in court. Of course, the precident has been set now that the gov't can determine whatever they want about your beliefs and how that applies to your parenting and they can remove your children based on WHATEVER criteria they can come up with...and arrest you if you don't let them. I gather some of you are okay with that.... " " huh scarlet Huh what............you think what Axx said is suddenly going to shame me into agreeing with all of the "LAW is more important than childen?, sorry ain't gonna happen! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick-Parker Posted May 18, 2008 Group: Royal Member Followers: 8 Topic Count: 200 Topics Per Day: 0.23 Content Count: 4,269 Content Per Day: 4.96 Reputation: 1,855 Days Won: 0 Joined: 12/17/2021 Status: Offline Birthday: 06/03/1955 Share Posted May 18, 2008 Only 2 arrests took place but over 400 children taken. This does not occur where freedom exists. http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=...mp;pageId=61971 It should be noted that the arrests did not take place first. The order to remove the children came before ANY arrest. The arrests happened because these two men tried to defend their property and their families and did not fully comply with officers. That is the risk they took and they have to answer for it in court. Of course, the precident has been set now that the gov't can determine whatever they want about your beliefs and how that applies to your parenting and they can remove your children based on WHATEVER criteria they can come up with...and arrest you if you don't let them. I gather some of you are okay with that.... " " huh scarlet Why do you have to try and goad people into responses? Just to cause strife? Certainly not to have a debate, as that ended earlier. That is why people have stopped responding on the thread. Positions have be staked out clearly, and there is nothing more to be achieved by arguing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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