Deputy shocks girl, 11, with Taser at elementary school

[buckthesystem]

God IS in humans. That's the whole point of the miracle of the Incarnation. It's one of the most beautiful ideas about Christianity, I think -- that when Jesus was assumed into heaven, that his bodily presence on earth became ours. The hands of God on earth are human hands; the eyes of God are human eyes. Sometimes I remind myself of that and think of the "least of our brothers and sisters" and their eyes being the eyes of God. I'm sure you know the Matthew verse in which this idea resonates...always been one of my favorite parts of scripture.

God cannot reside where Satan dwells. Unless that girl had Christ in her life, as Lord and Saviour, God was NOT in her.

Please site the verses you believe say that God is in humans. Don't assume that we know what you are referring to.

It still amazes me that there are those here who ignore the TRUE victim of this situation, the child that was initially pushed into traffic. What would you do to a child who pushed your child into traffic? What would you want done to them? What if that child had been hit by an oncoming vehicle? Would you care more about him/her then? Would it matter if the 11 year old had a bad home life, was provoked, upset, depressed?

If a child pushed my child into traffic, I'd want them punished to the fullest extent.

Some of you here know that my daughter has been the victim of bully abuse. Including snapping her bra strap and touching her chest, pushing, hitting, name calling and outright physical attacks. One boy even tried to run both my children over with his ATV. These children are never dealt with at home, even when the incidents are brought to the "parent's" attention. Schools and Bus Drivers are helpless to stop it. It has been left up to my daughter to protect herself. And she has our permission to do so.

So I ask you, what if your child had been the one that was pushed into the street by this girl, cars whizzing by. Nearly seriously injured because of another's foolishness, anger, stupidity? How would you have reacted? I, personally, would have tazered her myself!

Bib. I absolutely get what you are saying here, but I think it is important to point out that there is another way of looking at the situation.

So you have given your daughter your permission to deal with any bullying incident to her. I don't know how old she is but I am assuming that she is somewhere about 11. So here's the scenario: Your daughter is picked on by another kid or group of kids at school and she retaliates, she fights back by pushing the other kids back, away from her. One of the teachers just sees your daughter defending herself against the bully/bullies, totally misreads the situation, assumes that it is your daughter who is the agressor and calls in the "school resource officer". Your daughter gets upset at everybody's refusal to believe "her side of the story" and goes to walk away, the "school resource officer" sees that as a "refusal to comply with her orders" and Tasers your daughter.

So how are you going to react now?

[Guest Biblicist]

I was wondering if someone would bring that up. It is a valid point. However...those who are bullied rarely fight back. I know. Even though these kids have picked on her for going on 5 years she has rarely retaliated, and never in school. If she did fight back, she knows enough not to fight against the teachers, and punch an officer in the nose.

Of course, she's been taught.

Victims of bullying rarely do the pushing, it's the bully's that push, and poke, and tease, and burn, and slap.

[MorningGlory]

Morning you ignored everything I said in both my first post, and in my replies to you.

Yeah, I'm good at that. Especially when I realize that the person replying to me is not open to a different point of view. Btw, it's 'Glory'.....morning is when I wake up.

This is really an immature way to have a discussion and accomplishes nothing.

Sorry if you view an honest answer, or correcting you about my name (Glory is actually my name) as immature; making personal evaluations of someone you don't know is another example of immaturity, btw. You were not open to my view therefore I saw no reason to answer your comments.

[Axxman]

Matthew 12

34 Brood of vipers! How can you, being evil, speak good things? For out of the abundance of the heart the mouth speaks.

35 A good man out of the good treasure of his heart brings forth good things, and an evil man out of the evil treasure brings forth evil things.

36 But I say to you that for every idle word men may speak, they will give account of it in the day of judgment.

37 For by your words you will be justified, and by your words you will be condemned.

[MorningGlory]

Matthew 12

34 Brood of vipers! How can you, being evil, speak good things? For out of the abundance of the heart the mouth speaks.

35 A good man out of the good treasure of his heart brings forth good things, and an evil man out of the evil treasure brings forth evil things.

36 But I say to you that for every idle word men may speak, they will give account of it in the day of judgment.

37 For by your words you will be justified, and by your words you will be condemned."

And this weeks winner for "Most mis-applied, out of context scripture use goes toooooo......

man..

[Axxman]

You were not open to my view therefore I saw no reason to answer your comments.

I understand your view...I really do. Unfortunately, your view is not one of experience...at least not based on your comments here. I am trained to know the "public perception" of my actions. Heck, the public 99.9% of the time has NO PROBLEM telling their perceptions to my face. I get the perception the public has about tasers in general...and I think I understand your viewpoint about tasing this kid. Its actually understandable why you would be this upset. Most of the time I don't even get upset when I am sued by people. They simply don't get it. And you know what? I'm okay with that. I consider it part of my job...maybe the most difficult part at times....to protect people like you from the reality of what is really going on.

Which is why I fight BTS tooth and nail everytime she posts these biased anti-police, anti-gov't, conspiracy theory stories. That kid was tased, and that cop did the kid a favor by doing it. You have NO IDEA what its like to be in a fight, especially once injured, and ALL the pressure is on you to do the right thing. We've all seen examples of when cops lost control and done the wrong thing, and I'll be the first to call it if I see it, people get seriously hurt. If a cop is going to lose control and do something stupid...I GUARANTEE YOU...you want that cop to have a taser, rather than use a baton, a gun, or physical force.

This cop did nothing wrong. To make excuses for the kids violent actions...and lambast the cops actions in securing that kid with NO injury...well thats just backwards IMO.

[Guest shiloh357]

God IS in humans. That's the whole point of the miracle of the Incarnation. It's one of the most beautiful ideas about Christianity, I think -- that when Jesus was assumed into heaven, that his bodily presence on earth became ours. The hands of God on earth are human hands; the eyes of God are human eyes. Sometimes I remind myself of that and think of the "least of our brothers and sisters" and their eyes being the eyes of God. I'm sure you know the Matthew verse in which this idea resonates...always been one of my favorite parts of scripture.

God cannot reside where Satan dwells. Unless that girl had Christ in her life, as Lord and Saviour, God was NOT in her.

Please site the verses you believe say that God is in humans. Don't assume that we know what you are referring to.

It still amazes me that there are those here who ignore the TRUE victim of this situation, the child that was initially pushed into traffic. What would you do to a child who pushed your child into traffic? What would you want done to them? What if that child had been hit by an oncoming vehicle? Would you care more about him/her then? Would it matter if the 11 year old had a bad home life, was provoked, upset, depressed?

If a child pushed my child into traffic, I'd want them punished to the fullest extent.

Some of you here know that my daughter has been the victim of bully abuse. Including snapping her bra strap and touching her chest, pushing, hitting, name calling and outright physical attacks. One boy even tried to run both my children over with his ATV. These children are never dealt with at home, even when the incidents are brought to the "parent's" attention. Schools and Bus Drivers are helpless to stop it. It has been left up to my daughter to protect herself. And she has our permission to do so.

So I ask you, what if your child had been the one that was pushed into the street by this girl, cars whizzing by. Nearly seriously injured because of another's foolishness, anger, stupidity? How would you have reacted? I, personally, would have tazered her myself!

Bib. I absolutely get what you are saying here, but I think it is important to point out that there is another way of looking at the situation.

So you have given your daughter your permission to deal with any bullying incident to her. I don't know how old she is but I am assuming that she is somewhere about 11. So here's the scenario: Your daughter is picked on by another kid or group of kids at school and she retaliates, she fights back by pushing the other kids back, away from her. One of the teachers just sees your daughter defending herself against the bully/bullies, totally misreads the situation, assumes that it is your daughter who is the agressor and calls in the "school resource officer". Your daughter gets upset at everybody's refusal to believe "her side of the story" and goes to walk away, the "school resource officer" sees that as a "refusal to comply with her orders" and Tasers your daughter.

So how are you going to react now?

But that is not what happened BTS. You fail to mention the fact that the child punched the deputy. The deputy did not use the taser until the deputy was assaulted. You need to at least try to get the scenario right, instead leaving out important facts. But then I realize that anti-government, parnoid, conspiracy theorists can't be bothered with things like truth, facts, logic, etc.

Furthermore, if that scenario were correct, and it was 11 year-old who was the victim, then she would not have reacted to authority as she had done. The fact that she resorted to punching the deputy when she was not treated violently demonstrates that she was more than likely the aggressor.

Consipiracy theorists are always short on facts, but long on imagination.

[Scarletprayers]

Matthew 12

34 Brood of vipers! How can you, being evil, speak good things? For out of the abundance of the heart the mouth speaks.

35 A good man out of the good treasure of his heart brings forth good things, and an evil man out of the evil treasure brings forth evil things.

36 But I say to you that for every idle word men may speak, they will give account of it in the day of judgment.

37 For by your words you will be justified, and by your words you will be condemned."

I can't believe that a bunch of adults, christian adults at that, are sitting here talking smack about an 11 year old child. You all call yourselves christians and god fearing people, but I don't see it.

What I do see, is hatred, arrogance, self righteous ignorance.

Someone said this, "There is no excuse for disobedience. No matter the age." That statement is right on the money. There is no excuse for disobedience. This entire thread is one giant example of disobedience to the Word.

Christ said we were to love our neighbors as ourselves. I don't see any of that here.

Is this how you people act out in the 3 dimensional world?

Your words are your witness, or do you not understand that? Do you think that God doesn't know who you are just because you hide behind some internet name?

Someone said something here about being held accountable. That individual is right. Everyone here, including myself, is going to be held accountable.

I think she got just what she deserved!

That statement came from a Prayer Partner.

I used to think the people with the red letter names meant something. I don't anymore.

What a disgusting exhibition this whole thread has been.

Man, I'm astounded at the comments displayed here as well. But I'm thinking that most are writing to the abstract...it's not a personal issue to any of us. Though I don't agree with hardly any of the replies, surprise!, I don't believe it's a lack of Christian values that's the problem either. People ARE sick of others' out of control, violent offspring being turned loose on everyone else. Police ARE between a rock and a hard place with these situations. Maybe we should all step back from this and not let it get out of control. I hate to see you, a member, being this upset by the charged comments made here...including my own. I suspect you're not alone. Opinions?

Sorry, I am NOT writing in the abstract, and it is a personal issue to me. Unless you've had a child violently attack you, your only speaking from your own opinion. As for the rest of your comment Glory, I do agree............people are tired of all the bleeding hearts feeling sorry for the aggressor and totally ignoring the victims. Man, what does my being a prayer partner have to do with having an opinion about this or is only because I disagree with you that its a problem, I'll tell you what, I'll email George and tell him to remove my name as a prayer partner.

[ColleenLovesMischief]

Ya know....my son is 11 and has serious behavior/understanding issues due to his Autism. If anyone were to ever taser him they would deal with worse from me. There are other ways.

[Rick-Parker]

Ya know....my son is 11 and has serious behavior/understanding issues due to his Autism. If anyone were to ever taser him they would deal with worse from me. There are other ways.

So, how would the officer have handled this? If your son (who happens to be autistic) had assaulted a police officer for no reason, what would you have had the officer do? What would you have done if the assaulted was you?