undone Posted October 30, 2008 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 45 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 819 Content Per Day: 0.13 Reputation: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 06/01/2006 Status: Offline Share Posted October 30, 2008 While we're on the subject of HP, what about the following: Barney the Dinosaur Mary Poppins Nanny McPhee Tellitubbies Superman The Fantastic Four I could go on and on... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emily~Anne Posted October 30, 2008 Group: Royal Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 146 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 2,308 Content Per Day: 0.36 Reputation: 6 Days Won: 0 Joined: 10/11/2006 Status: Offline Share Posted October 30, 2008 I'm not into fantasy, but one good thing I definately have to say for Narnia, is the witch is portrayed as EVIL. And that's how it should be. Witches, wizards and such should never be portrayed as 'good'. You mean like Glinda in the Wizard of Oz? Disney.........need I say more? Yes, Glinda is another example of a witch portrayed as 'good'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kross Posted October 31, 2008 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 2 Topic Count: 44 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 1,773 Content Per Day: 0.31 Reputation: 51 Days Won: 0 Joined: 08/04/2008 Status: Offline Birthday: 12/27/1957 Share Posted October 31, 2008 http://koti.phnet.fi/petripaavola/HarryPotterbooks.html This writing deal with Harry Potter books, last days apostasy, witchcraft, evil spirits deception and God's salvation in Jesus Christ. In this writing are handled very serious issues. You who care about your neighbours, your kids, your parents, forward this writing as warning and as a message that they can be saved in Jesus Christ! I didn't read the article, but... If any of you saw, or have kids who saw, The Golden Compass, please take the tim to explain to them the Demons are not friendly little animal spirit guids that help you through life. This movie was such an overt effort by Satan to indoctrinate children to embrace demons as a good thing that I left the theater truely shaken and distressed. J.K. Rowling has said that she is a Christian. Why Christian who believe in God write books, which emphasize witchcraft and sorcery and occultism? I think that she thinks that she believes, but actually she doesn't believe as it has been written in the Bible. Because he/she who really believe to God and the Bible don't write a book saying that there is good and bad witches, because the Bible say that all witches are evil. J.K. Rowling says in her books that Harry's witchcraft is good and this one statement alone is enough to prove that Harry Potter books are evil. Of course there is also much more evil in those books. Because it is FANTASY Kross, which side are you on? Are you trying to say the golden compass is bad, but Harry Potter is O.K.? That seems absurd to me, they are both equally evil. I don't agree. The Golden Compass was very specically done to indoctrinate children into embracing demons. Harry Potter is not indoctrinating children into majic. It is fantasy story telling about a make believe place and a make believe system of majic. I have seen all the Harry Potter movies and none of them bathered me in the least. The Golden Compass, on the other hand, was an overt effort by Satan to indoctrinate children into warring against any effort to tell them that demons are bad. But, if it bothers you, that is OK with me. Peace Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kross Posted October 31, 2008 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 2 Topic Count: 44 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 1,773 Content Per Day: 0.31 Reputation: 51 Days Won: 0 Joined: 08/04/2008 Status: Offline Birthday: 12/27/1957 Share Posted October 31, 2008 http://koti.phnet.fi/petripaavola/HarryPotterbooks.html This writing deal with Harry Potter books, last days apostasy, witchcraft, evil spirits deception and God's salvation in Jesus Christ. In this writing are handled very serious issues. You who care about your neighbours, your kids, your parents, forward this writing as warning and as a message that they can be saved in Jesus Christ! I didn't read the article, but... If any of you saw, or have kids who saw, The Golden Compass, please take the tim to explain to them the Demons are not friendly little animal spirit guids that help you through life. This movie was such an overt effort by Satan to indoctrinate children to embrace demons as a good thing that I left the theater truely shaken and distressed. J.K. Rowling has said that she is a Christian. Why Christian who believe in God write books, which emphasize witchcraft and sorcery and occultism? I think that she thinks that she believes, but actually she doesn't believe as it has been written in the Bible. Because he/she who really believe to God and the Bible don't write a book saying that there is good and bad witches, because the Bible say that all witches are evil. J.K. Rowling says in her books that Harry's witchcraft is good and this one statement alone is enough to prove that Harry Potter books are evil. Of course there is also much more evil in those books. Because it is FANTASY Kross, which side are you on? Are you trying to say the golden compass is bad, but Harry Potter is O.K.? That seems absurd to me, they are both equally evil. I don't agree. The Golden Compass was very specically done to indoctrinate children into embracing demons. Harry Potter is not indoctrinating children into majic. It is fantasy story telling about a make believe place and a make believe system of majic. I have seen all the Harry Potter movies and none of them bathered me in the least. The Golden Compass, on the other hand, was an overt effort by Satan to indoctrinate children into warring against any effort to tell them that demons are bad. But, if it bothers you, that is OK with me. Peace If you were not bothered by the Harry Potter movies then there is something wrong with you. They do clearly indoctrinate children into witchcraft as well as the occult. I do not agree with you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevenFowler Posted October 31, 2008 Group: Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 1 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 9 Content Per Day: 0.00 Reputation: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 10/31/2008 Status: Offline Share Posted October 31, 2008 Yesterday I fell flat on my face and cried out to the the Lord......Save me! Let your will be mine!. After a calming presence was laid over me.... I was brought to my knees...The word was laid before me and The voice of God was in my ears. I have been commanded by God to deliver a message to his people...to all nations...all congregations.....all people. I am scared because I want to dismiss this as a nervous breakdown, but God keeps talking to me. So I will start here. I asked God to forgive my sins I repent! please give me wisdom...My bible opened up to this page and this is what the Lord says.... Proverbs 10 A Wise Son makes a glad father, but a foolish son is the grief of his mother. As I read the rest of the Proverb I completely understood. I then asked God "Help me to do your will"...once again my Bible opened to what God wanted me to read and know..... Psalm 105 Oh, give thanks to the Lord! Call upon His name; Make known his deeds among the peoples! As I read the rest of the Psalm I understood. I then asked God "what do I do now"....And again the word was laid before me. Leviticus 19 And the Lord spoke to Moses saying, Speak to all the congregation of the children of Israel, and say to them: You shall be holy. for I the Lord your God am holy. As I read the rest I understood. I then asked God what is you message to these people? Isaiah 8:11-8:18 Isaiah 9 Proverbs 23 This IS the Message of the Lord your God.... We have not obeyed God of God's law. We have called ourselves righteous, but we do so with wicked tongues. We have not observed the commandments of God. We have not fulfilled His will. We have not made ourselves a place in the bossom of the Lord. God has commanded me to tell all the people and nations. REPENT! Turn away from your labors and iniquities of evil, for all your labors and iniquities are in vain. This is the Lord your God's commandment. Matthew 15:7-9 Turn away from your trespasses for the hour is at hand! I asked God if this was Real? And this is what he has shown me... acts 26:12-20 I then asked God why me and this is what He said..... Matthew 13:1-24 i don't think I am losing my mind....but I don't want to disobey God either. I will trust in the Lord that He guides me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kross Posted October 31, 2008 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 2 Topic Count: 44 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 1,773 Content Per Day: 0.31 Reputation: 51 Days Won: 0 Joined: 08/04/2008 Status: Offline Birthday: 12/27/1957 Share Posted October 31, 2008 http://koti.phnet.fi/petripaavola/HarryPotterbooks.html This writing deal with Harry Potter books, last days apostasy, witchcraft, evil spirits deception and God's salvation in Jesus Christ. In this writing are handled very serious issues. You who care about your neighbours, your kids, your parents, forward this writing as warning and as a message that they can be saved in Jesus Christ! I didn't read the article, but... If any of you saw, or have kids who saw, The Golden Compass, please take the tim to explain to them the Demons are not friendly little animal spirit guids that help you through life. This movie was such an overt effort by Satan to indoctrinate children to embrace demons as a good thing that I left the theater truely shaken and distressed. J.K. Rowling has said that she is a Christian. Why Christian who believe in God write books, which emphasize witchcraft and sorcery and occultism? I think that she thinks that she believes, but actually she doesn't believe as it has been written in the Bible. Because he/she who really believe to God and the Bible don't write a book saying that there is good and bad witches, because the Bible say that all witches are evil. J.K. Rowling says in her books that Harry's witchcraft is good and this one statement alone is enough to prove that Harry Potter books are evil. Of course there is also much more evil in those books. Because it is FANTASY Kross, which side are you on? Are you trying to say the golden compass is bad, but Harry Potter is O.K.? That seems absurd to me, they are both equally evil. I don't agree. The Golden Compass was very specically done to indoctrinate children into embracing demons. Harry Potter is not indoctrinating children into majic. It is fantasy story telling about a make believe place and a make believe system of majic. I have seen all the Harry Potter movies and none of them bathered me in the least. The Golden Compass, on the other hand, was an overt effort by Satan to indoctrinate children into warring against any effort to tell them that demons are bad. But, if it bothers you, that is OK with me. Peace If you were not bothered by the Harry Potter movies then there is something wrong with you. They do clearly indoctrinate children into witchcraft as well as the occult. I do not agree with you. You discernment is obviously lacking. And you are so perfect in your understanding that you can not possibly be mistaken. I wish I was like you. But my discernment must be off. "I am convinced that nothing in and of itself is evil, but what a man considers evil, to him it is evil". Romans 14:14 Peace Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kross Posted October 31, 2008 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 2 Topic Count: 44 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 1,773 Content Per Day: 0.31 Reputation: 51 Days Won: 0 Joined: 08/04/2008 Status: Offline Birthday: 12/27/1957 Share Posted October 31, 2008 Yesterday I fell flat on my face and cried out to the the Lord......Save me! Let your will be mine!. After a calming presence was laid over me.... I was brought to my knees...The word was laid before me and The voice of God was in my ears. I have been commanded by God to deliver a message to his people...to all nations...all congregations.....all people. I am scared because I want to dismiss this as a nervous breakdown, but God keeps talking to me. So I will start here. I asked God to forgive my sins I repent! please give me wisdom...My bible opened up to this page and this is what the Lord says.... Proverbs 10 A Wise Son makes a glad father, but a foolish son is the grief of his mother. As I read the rest of the Proverb I completely understood. I then asked God "Help me to do your will"...once again my Bible opened to what God wanted me to read and know..... Psalm 105 Oh, give thanks to the Lord! Call upon His name; Make known his deeds among the peoples! As I read the rest of the Psalm I understood. I then asked God "what do I do now"....And again the word was laid before me. Leviticus 19 And the Lord spoke to Moses saying, Speak to all the congregation of the children of Israel, and say to them: You shall be holy. for I the Lord your God am holy. As I read the rest I understood. I then asked God what is you message to these people? Isaiah 8:11-8:18 Isaiah 9 Proverbs 23 This IS the Message of the Lord your God.... We have not obeyed God of God's law. We have called ourselves righteous, but we do so with wicked tongues. We have not observed the commandments of God. We have not fulfilled His will. We have not made ourselves a place in the bossom of the Lord. God has commanded me to tell all the people and nations. REPENT! Turn away from your labors and iniquities of evil, for all your labors and iniquities are in vain. This is the Lord your God's commandment. Matthew 15:7-9 Turn away from your trespasses for the hour is at hand! I asked God if this was Real? And this is what he has shown me... acts 26:12-20 I then asked God why me and this is what He said..... Matthew 13:1-24 i don't think I am losing my mind....but I don't want to disobey God either. I will trust in the Lord that He guides me. You should have made that a new string. Trust me, when GOD gives you the more specific message and direct understanding of what HIS heart and meaning is, most of HIS people will not listen to your words. There have been a couple of people here who have responded to things I have said with private messages telling me that GOD has told them the same things. Telling me that they do not understand why so many can not understand what that message is. It is not an easy calling and you will be maligned for telling them what they do not want to hear, or do not have the ears to hear. Trust the message. Put this in a new string. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ovedya Posted October 31, 2008 Group: Royal Member Followers: 3 Topic Count: 375 Topics Per Day: 0.05 Content Count: 11,400 Content Per Day: 1.44 Reputation: 125 Days Won: 0 Joined: 08/30/2002 Status: Offline Birthday: 08/14/1971 Share Posted October 31, 2008 While we're on the subject of HP, what about the following: Barney the Dinosaur Mary Poppins Nanny McPhee Tellitubbies Superman The Fantastic Four I could go on and on... Good point! How odd it seems that there is so much more opposition to HP today then there ever was to the items listed above, not to mention the "magic" of Peter Pan, the "good fairies" of Sleeping Beauty, Cinderella's "Fairy Godmother," etc. And what about all the Fairy Tales written throughout history that have been traditionally written, held, and promoted by Chrstians (Hans Christian Andersen and many others)? Here's the real problem: Parents don't want to parent anymore. They'd rather just go down to the library and burn the books they don't want their kids reading. If you, as a parent, want to raise your children with a realistic view of the world, of life, and of reality, then you need to get on the ball and teach them. Simply sheltering them from "the boogeyman in the book" isn't going to be enough. I've used my own daughters as examples times before in this discussion: Both of my daughters love the Lord above everything. My 16-year-old has learned to "check" herself when certain items start to become too distracting from the Lord. This is a skill that I helped to train her with. My 12-year-old is still learning that skill, but I will continue to train her according to the Lord's leading. On the other hand both my daughters have a voracious appetite for reading. Their language skills, and intelligence has greatly benefited from reading all sorts of books (Within the reasonable confines of their maturity, or course), including the entire Harry Potter series. Neither of my daughters is interested in the least in witchcraft, accepting witchcraft as the norm, and they certainly don't want to go out and try to find others who do. How come nobody can point to a specific groups of preteens who practice witchcraft as the direct result of "the witchcraft recruitment" contained in the HP books? It's because the books don't recruit potential young witches. If they do, then Rowling wrote a terrible recruiting manual! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kross Posted October 31, 2008 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 2 Topic Count: 44 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 1,773 Content Per Day: 0.31 Reputation: 51 Days Won: 0 Joined: 08/04/2008 Status: Offline Birthday: 12/27/1957 Share Posted October 31, 2008 While we're on the subject of HP, what about the following: Barney the Dinosaur Mary Poppins Nanny McPhee Tellitubbies Superman The Fantastic Four I could go on and on... Good point! How odd it seems that there is so much more opposition to HP today then there ever was to the items listed above, not to mention the "magic" of Peter Pan, the "good fairies" of Sleeping Beauty, Cinderella's "Fairy Godmother," etc. And what about all the Fairy Tales written throughout history that have been traditionally written, held, and promoted by Chrstians (Hans Christian Andersen and many others)? Here's the real problem: Parents don't want to parent anymore. If you, as a parent, want to raise your children with a realistic view of the world, of life, and of reality, then you need to get on the ball and teach them. Simply sheltering them from "the boogeyman in the book" isn't going to be enough. I've used my own daughters as examples times before in this discussion: Both of my daughters love the Lord above everything. My 16-year-old has learned to "check" herself when certain items start to become too distracting from the Lord. This is a skill that I helped to train her with. My 12-year-old is still learning that skill, but I will continue to train her according to the Lord's leading. On the other hand both my daughters have a voracious appetite for reading. Their language skills, and intelligence has greatly benefited from reading all sorts of books (Within the reasonable confines of their maturity, or course), including the entire Harry Potter series. Neither of my daughters is interested in the least in witchcraft, accepting witchcraft as the norm, and they certainly don't want to go out and try to find others who do. How come nobody can point to a specific groups of preteens who practice witchcraft as the direct result of "the witchcraft recruitment" contained in the HP books? It's because the books don't recruit potential young witches. If they do, then Rowling wrote a terrible recruiting manual! You now, you can get in trouble for agreeing with the likes of me on any issue. Be careful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevenFowler Posted October 31, 2008 Group: Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 1 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 9 Content Per Day: 0.00 Reputation: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 10/31/2008 Status: Offline Share Posted October 31, 2008 Yesterday I fell flat on my face and cried out to the the Lord......Save me! Let your will be mine!. After a calming presence was laid over me.... I was brought to my knees...The word was laid before me and The voice of God was in my ears. I have been commanded by God to deliver a message to his people...to all nations...all congregations.....all people. I am scared because I want to dismiss this as a nervous breakdown, but God keeps talking to me. So I will start here. I asked God to forgive my sins I repent! please give me wisdom...My bible opened up to this page and this is what the Lord says.... Proverbs 10 A Wise Son makes a glad father, but a foolish son is the grief of his mother. As I read the rest of the Proverb I completely understood. I then asked God "Help me to do your will"...once again my Bible opened to what God wanted me to read and know..... Psalm 105 Oh, give thanks to the Lord! Call upon His name; Make known his deeds among the peoples! As I read the rest of the Psalm I understood. I then asked God "what do I do now"....And again the word was laid before me. Leviticus 19 And the Lord spoke to Moses saying, Speak to all the congregation of the children of Israel, and say to them: You shall be holy. for I the Lord your God am holy. As I read the rest I understood. I then asked God what is you message to these people? Isaiah 8:11-8:18 Isaiah 9 Proverbs 23 This IS the Message of the Lord your God.... We have not obeyed God of God's law. We have called ourselves righteous, but we do so with wicked tongues. We have not observed the commandments of God. We have not fulfilled His will. We have not made ourselves a place in the bossom of the Lord. God has commanded me to tell all the people and nations. REPENT! Turn away from your labors and iniquities of evil, for all your labors and iniquities are in vain. This is the Lord your God's commandment. Matthew 15:7-9 Turn away from your trespasses for the hour is at hand! I asked God if this was Real? And this is what he has shown me... acts 26:12-20 I then asked God why me and this is what He said..... Matthew 13:1-24 i don't think I am losing my mind....but I don't want to disobey God either. I will trust in the Lord that He guides me. You should have made that a new string. Trust me, when GOD gives you the more specific message and direct understanding of what HIS heart and meaning is, most of HIS people will not listen to your words. There have been a couple of people here who have responded to things I have said with private messages telling me that GOD has told them the same things. Telling me that they do not understand why so many can not understand what that message is. It is not an easy calling and you will be maligned for telling them what they do not want to hear, or do not have the ears to hear. Trust the message. Put this in a new string. yes, when I try I can't post.I am very new to blogging. any assistance would be helpful. The message is clear, the hour is at hand. I am to speak God's words against this false teaching of a rapture. I don't want this burden and why was I chosen? Just some of the words God has showed me so far.... Matthew 24 Isaiah 8:11-8:19 Isaiah 9 Leviticus 19 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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