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I have a problem maybe someone can help me with. I have been friend's with this couple for 7 or 8 years and they are about to break up. They have two children who I am very close to. In a nutshell, the wife is an abusive mother and the father wants to get the kids away from her. She is also involved in an adulterous relationship. He wants me to take the mom out to a movie or dinner or whatnot. While we are out, he is going to pack the kids up and take them to his parents house who live in another city. The wife will not know what is happening until she comes home to find a "goodbye" note. He feels this is the only way to get the kids safely away from her and I agree. My question to you is this.........should I get involved by taking the mom out to said movie? This will place me in her eyes as the bad guy. I love the kids enough to sacrifice my friendship with her in order to see them safe, but I'm still not sure if this is the right thing to do.

Please help........


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NO catorgorically NOT...1st lesson in life with couple never ...never get involved in domestic stuff unless you can contribute constructivly

also you would be accessory to kidnapping

if the kids are in danger like he or you say....then get child protection involved that counts as constructive...and pray

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NO catorgorically NOT...1st lesson in life with couple never ...never get involved in domestic stuff unless you can contribute constructivly

also you would be accessory to kidnapping

if the kids are in danger like he or you say....then get child protection involved that counts as constructive...and pray

Well said and Amen. And if you are having reservations about getting involved, and you obviously are, then follow that lead of the Holy Spirit! Trust your instincts in regards to issues as this for God is speaking to you indeed. Don't get involved, allow the Lord God to handle this; for He IS in control even when it seems to us that He isn't.

Love to you through our Jesus,

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The husband has already told the police what he is planning on doing and it is all on the up and up. According to them the husband is not kidnapping the kids.


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so the husband has told you...if you go out of state with children the way he is planning to...it is a crime...it will never be on the up and up...why because hes planning on vanishing....not take them for a holiday...huge differance...at a guess hes lied to you to get you to cooperate...or he didn't tell the police the full story...if he had THEY would have had child protection down straight away....does that not strike you as odd????


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so the husband has told you...if you go out of state with children the way he is planning to...it is a crime...it will never be on the up and up...why because hes planning on vanishing....not take them for a holiday...huge differance...at a guess hes lied to you to get you to cooperate...or he didn't tell the police the full story...if he had THEY would have had child protection down straight away....does that not strike you as odd????

He is not taking them out of state......just to another city. He was on the phone talking to the police and telling them everything he was going to do in my presence. I heard the whole conversation. I don't think the police are going to arrest me because I took the mother out to a movie.....that is far fetched.


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i dont know about taking them to another city as i'm british .... but he is still planning on kidnapping them...look up the word kidnapp....no your not just taken the mother to a movie....what is the motive for you taking the mother to a movie...so he can do this...its called intent....that makes you an assecory....again...if things with the mother and children are that bad why have you not got child protection involved????and did you hear any voice on the other end of the line when he phoned???did you see him dial the number????what are you getting out of this that you want to help him??????the kids safty???get child protection involved...dont just do it to be partof the excitement...or it will blow up in your face big time....if the mom is violent and you live by her and she gets wind of your part in it.....whats to stop her comming round and knocking you flat???/have you thought out all the possabilities???? ;)


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I appreciate your advice cybma 22, but there are many things that I can't explain to you over these posts. The police called him (it was a return call) while in my presence and I did hear anther voice on the line. I have no doubt on my mind that he was talking to a police officer. I don't think she would come after me physically......she is not that kind of person. But you do give me time to pause and reflect on my role in this situation. I mean, since I am friends with both of them, do I really want to be the bad guy and deceive the mother? My answer to that is no. My goal with this couple was to be supportive throughout their marraige and by helping them babysit thier kids and in general being there for them. It is not right now for me to "turn on" the mother just because she is messed up. I do love their kids and want the best for them, but my way of helpinfg them is not the best way possible. I'm going to talk to the father and tell him about contacting child protection services. I would feel more comfortable in the long run if this problem was in the hands of professionals. Thanks again for your advice and for everyone else on here who contributed their two cents worth.

God bless you all. ;)


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footsteps.........

good thinking.....

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