Matthitjah Posted January 6, 2009 Group: Royal Member Followers: 4 Topic Count: 1,285 Topics Per Day: 0.16 Content Count: 17,917 Content Per Day: 2.27 Reputation: 355 Days Won: 19 Joined: 10/01/2002 Status: Offline Share Posted January 6, 2009 Grace to you, What good thing was found in Abijah son of Jeroboam King of Israel? 1Ki Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~pearl Posted January 6, 2009 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 2 Topic Count: 17 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 700 Content Per Day: 0.12 Reputation: 3 Days Won: 0 Joined: 10/17/2007 Status: Offline Birthday: 12/11/1977 Share Posted January 6, 2009 Perhaps because he died young, because of God's mercy, he was spared from the suffering his family would endure? God's mercy was the good thing found in him? Interesting topic Dave. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hunterpoet Posted January 6, 2009 Group: Removed from Forums for Breaking Terms of Service Followers: 0 Topic Count: 128 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 2,704 Content Per Day: 0.44 Reputation: 25 Days Won: 1 Joined: 05/29/2007 Status: Offline Birthday: 10/08/1950 Share Posted January 6, 2009 One of the commentaries I read agrees with the Jewish writers you quoted. Most state that G-d found in him goodness, without being specific, and this is why he was treated with respect. That G-d acknowledges even the slightest good amongst the evil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthitjah Posted January 6, 2009 Group: Royal Member Followers: 4 Topic Count: 1,285 Topics Per Day: 0.16 Content Count: 17,917 Content Per Day: 2.27 Reputation: 355 Days Won: 19 Joined: 10/01/2002 Status: Offline Author Share Posted January 6, 2009 Grace to you, Thanks Pearl. Here's what the Jewish Encyclopedia has to say about the situation; Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nebula Posted January 6, 2009 Group: Royal Member Followers: 10 Topic Count: 5,823 Topics Per Day: 0.75 Content Count: 45,870 Content Per Day: 5.94 Reputation: 1,897 Days Won: 83 Joined: 03/22/2003 Status: Offline Birthday: 11/19/1970 Share Posted January 6, 2009 I'm reading the chapter, and it says that he was a child. So, I'm not too sure what he could have accomplished. I can only imagine that his young heart had a desire for the Lord. I think of my own childhood, where even at a young age it seemed to me I desired more for the Lord than my parents at the time. Perhaps it was the same for him? In any event, in reading the judgment against the house of Jereboam, it does seem as if it was a mercy for the child to die before the judgment came. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthitjah Posted January 7, 2009 Group: Royal Member Followers: 4 Topic Count: 1,285 Topics Per Day: 0.16 Content Count: 17,917 Content Per Day: 2.27 Reputation: 355 Days Won: 19 Joined: 10/01/2002 Status: Offline Author Share Posted January 7, 2009 Grace to you, Why do you suppose it was that men like Jeroboam did not repent? His wife upon hearing that as soon as she crosses the threshhold of her home the child will die, goes home and crosses the threshhold and he dies. I have to agree that Gods Grace came into play in the life of Abijah. He was actaully buried and afforded sepulture while none of the rest of Jeroboams lineage was. This brings a few questions to mind. It is apparent from Jewish Rabbinical tradition that it was because he did what was right in the sight of the Lord and some Good was found in him. Do you suppose that Jeroboam went into his Temple and asked forgiveness or made an offering? Something else pops into my mind. Why did God want to kill Moses? Ex Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RebekahDavid Posted January 7, 2009 Group: Royal Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 320 Topics Per Day: 0.05 Content Count: 3,166 Content Per Day: 0.45 Reputation: 23 Days Won: 0 Joined: 12/31/2004 Status: Offline Share Posted January 7, 2009 Grace to you, Why do you suppose it was that men like Jeroboam did not repent? His wife upon hearing that as soon as she crosses the threshhold of her home the child will die, goes home and crosses the threshhold and he dies. I have to agree that Gods Grace came into play in the life of Abijah. He was actaully buried and afforded sepulture while none of the rest of Jeroboams lineage was. This brings a few questions to mind. It is apparent from Jewish Rabbinical tradition that it was because he did what was right in the sight of the Lord and some Good was found in him. Do you suppose that Jeroboam went into his Temple and asked forgiveness or made an offering? Something else pops into my mind. Why did God want to kill Moses? Ex Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthitjah Posted January 7, 2009 Group: Royal Member Followers: 4 Topic Count: 1,285 Topics Per Day: 0.16 Content Count: 17,917 Content Per Day: 2.27 Reputation: 355 Days Won: 19 Joined: 10/01/2002 Status: Offline Author Share Posted January 7, 2009 Grace to you, Thanks Rebekah. I believe that Abijah made an offering, I believe that Moses missed making an offering and then watched as his wife made the offering, and then I believe that Jeroboam even made an offering. Does that help connect the dots? Peace, Dave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RebekahDavid Posted January 7, 2009 Group: Royal Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 320 Topics Per Day: 0.05 Content Count: 3,166 Content Per Day: 0.45 Reputation: 23 Days Won: 0 Joined: 12/31/2004 Status: Offline Share Posted January 7, 2009 Grace to you, Thanks Rebekah. I believe that Abijah made an offering, I believe that Moses missed making an offering and then watched as his wife made the offering, and then I believe that Jeroboam even made an offering. Does that help connect the dots? Peace, Dave blessings yup thanks (sometimes i am a little slow understanding things) love your sister in Christ, Rebekah David Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthitjah Posted January 7, 2009 Group: Royal Member Followers: 4 Topic Count: 1,285 Topics Per Day: 0.16 Content Count: 17,917 Content Per Day: 2.27 Reputation: 355 Days Won: 19 Joined: 10/01/2002 Status: Offline Author Share Posted January 7, 2009 Cool! I was using Moses as an example for where my thoughts went when I prayed and meditated on this. Jeroboam did make an offering the only problem with it was that it didn't get him an advocate. He may have been seeking one but when we make an offering that isn't in league with Gods Word, who are we making an offering to? I think about guys like Jeroboam and another that comes to mind is Hezekiah, he hears that all of his children/progeny after him will become Eunuchs and be carried into Babylon as slaves and he's pleased that it won't happen in his lifetime. I would be seeking the Lords forgiveness and Grace. I guess that's why David was so different than those after him. He sought repentance when he was in sin. I was wondering and praying about Jeroboam and Abijah and I saw that one had an Advocate and the other did not. Yet both men made an offering. I'm almost certain that Jeroboam went into the Temple that he had built in Israel, where he was a Priest, and sought to make an offering , many times. Yet his offering was ignored because there is a prescribed way to make one. That Way is by Faith in Gods Word and results in you having an Advocate. An Advocate can interecede on your behalf and shed Gods Mercy and Grace into your life when you are deserving of only Wrath and in Moseses circumstance even death. Peace, Dave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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