nebula Posted January 31, 2009 Group: Royal Member Followers: 10 Topic Count: 5,823 Topics Per Day: 0.75 Content Count: 45,870 Content Per Day: 5.94 Reputation: 1,897 Days Won: 83 Joined: 03/22/2003 Status: Offline Birthday: 11/19/1970 Share Posted January 31, 2009 Isaiah lived from 758-698 BC. Babylon was destroyed in 689 BC. Nebuchednezzar was born in 630 BC and came to power in 605 BC. Those are statements of fact. How do you figure Babylon had been destroyed before Isaiah and Jeremiah? What are the dates for Jeremiah? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fraught Posted January 31, 2009 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 2 Topic Count: 105 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 1,741 Content Per Day: 0.28 Reputation: 28 Days Won: 0 Joined: 07/23/2007 Status: Offline Birthday: 07/30/1959 Share Posted January 31, 2009 Ok - sorry, I missed that. So that means Nebuchandnezzer's city should have been called "New Babylon", huh? More to the point, it means King N.'s Babylon doesn't play a role in biblical prophecy at all. See what happens when you make an assumption? An entire doctrine built on faulty data because someone forgot to check their facts. Why would God Give a prophecy about a Babylon that had already been destroyed before Isaiah and Jeremiah. Isaiah and Jeremiah are prophets, not historians. Isaiah lived from 758-698 BC. Babylon was destroyed in 689 BC. Nebuchednezzar was born in 630 BC and came to power in 605 BC. Those are statements of fact. How do you figure Babylon had been destroyed before Isaiah and Jeremiah? i gotta admit, this makes things a LOT less complicated. Hallelujah Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick-Parker Posted January 31, 2009 Group: Royal Member Followers: 8 Topic Count: 200 Topics Per Day: 0.23 Content Count: 4,271 Content Per Day: 4.89 Reputation: 1,855 Days Won: 0 Joined: 12/17/2021 Status: Offline Birthday: 06/03/1955 Author Share Posted January 31, 2009 Ok - sorry, I missed that. So that means Nebuchandnezzer's city should have been called "New Babylon", huh? More to the point, it means King N.'s Babylon doesn't play a role in biblical prophecy at all. See what happens when you make an assumption? An entire doctrine built on faulty data because someone forgot to check their facts. So, you are the only one in the world that caught this "forgetting to check their facts?" An "entire" doctrine, huh? Is this a new doctrine? Or has it been around for quite a while and only you have it correctly? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick-Parker Posted February 1, 2009 Group: Royal Member Followers: 8 Topic Count: 200 Topics Per Day: 0.23 Content Count: 4,271 Content Per Day: 4.89 Reputation: 1,855 Days Won: 0 Joined: 12/17/2021 Status: Offline Birthday: 06/03/1955 Author Share Posted February 1, 2009 Ok - sorry, I missed that. So that means Nebuchandnezzer's city should have been called "New Babylon", huh? More to the point, it means King N.'s Babylon doesn't play a role in biblical prophecy at all. See what happens when you make an assumption? An entire doctrine built on faulty data because someone forgot to check their facts. So, you are the only one in the world that caught this "forgetting to check their facts?" An "entire" doctrine, huh? Is this a new doctrine? Or has it been around for quite a while and only you have it correctly? Not at all; I wouldn't presume. So.....who else espouses what you are? Your "doctrine?" You seem to be isolated in your belief. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nebula Posted February 1, 2009 Group: Royal Member Followers: 10 Topic Count: 5,823 Topics Per Day: 0.75 Content Count: 45,870 Content Per Day: 5.94 Reputation: 1,897 Days Won: 83 Joined: 03/22/2003 Status: Offline Birthday: 11/19/1970 Share Posted February 1, 2009 Isaiah lived from 758-698 BC. Babylon was destroyed in 689 BC. Nebuchednezzar was born in 630 BC and came to power in 605 BC. Those are statements of fact. How do you figure Babylon had been destroyed before Isaiah and Jeremiah? What are the dates for Jeremiah? Jeremiah was born in 641 BC. There is not a record of his death. One historian writes that he was murdered in Egypt c.551 BC, another that he died in Nebuchednezzar's Babylon around the same date. OK, so in the case of Jeremiah, whatever he said about Babylon was Nebuchadnezzar's Babylon, wouldn't it be? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick-Parker Posted February 1, 2009 Group: Royal Member Followers: 8 Topic Count: 200 Topics Per Day: 0.23 Content Count: 4,271 Content Per Day: 4.89 Reputation: 1,855 Days Won: 0 Joined: 12/17/2021 Status: Offline Birthday: 06/03/1955 Author Share Posted February 1, 2009 Ok - sorry, I missed that. So that means Nebuchandnezzer's city should have been called "New Babylon", huh? More to the point, it means King N.'s Babylon doesn't play a role in biblical prophecy at all. See what happens when you make an assumption? An entire doctrine built on faulty data because someone forgot to check their facts. So, you are the only one in the world that caught this "forgetting to check their facts?" An "entire" doctrine, huh? Is this a new doctrine? Or has it been around for quite a while and only you have it correctly? Not at all; I wouldn't presume. So.....who else espouses what you are? Your "doctrine?" You seem to be isolated in your belief. Actually, I had to research it. The facts are out there for anyone who cares to look. I suggest you do so. Yet there are a multitude of Biblical scholars who have never found what you are presenting. How come you are the only one to whom the Holy Spirit has revealed this "doctrine." Or do you belong to a congregation who believe as you do? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneLight Posted February 1, 2009 Group: Royal Member Followers: 22 Topic Count: 1,294 Topics Per Day: 0.21 Content Count: 31,762 Content Per Day: 5.22 Reputation: 9,763 Days Won: 115 Joined: 09/14/2007 Status: Offline Share Posted February 1, 2009 Ok - sorry, I missed that. So that means Nebuchandnezzer's city should have been called "New Babylon", huh? More to the point, it means King N.'s Babylon doesn't play a role in biblical prophecy at all. See what happens when you make an assumption? An entire doctrine built on faulty data because someone forgot to check their facts. So, you are the only one in the world that caught this "forgetting to check their facts?" An "entire" doctrine, huh? Is this a new doctrine? Or has it been around for quite a while and only you have it correctly? Not at all; I wouldn't presume. So.....who else espouses what you are? Your "doctrine?" You seem to be isolated in your belief. Actually, I had to research it. The facts are out there for anyone who cares to look. I suggest you do so. Yet there are a multitude of Biblical scholars who have never found what you are presenting. How come you are the only one to whom the Holy Spirit has revealed this "doctrine." Or do you belong to a congregation who believe as you do? Parker1, he mentioned he researched the facts. Attacking him in this manner is against the ToS. Try asking what references he could provide you so you can check it out yourself ... be a Berean! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick-Parker Posted February 2, 2009 Group: Royal Member Followers: 8 Topic Count: 200 Topics Per Day: 0.23 Content Count: 4,271 Content Per Day: 4.89 Reputation: 1,855 Days Won: 0 Joined: 12/17/2021 Status: Offline Birthday: 06/03/1955 Author Share Posted February 2, 2009 Ok - sorry, I missed that. So that means Nebuchandnezzer's city should have been called "New Babylon", huh? More to the point, it means King N.'s Babylon doesn't play a role in biblical prophecy at all. See what happens when you make an assumption? An entire doctrine built on faulty data because someone forgot to check their facts. So, you are the only one in the world that caught this "forgetting to check their facts?" An "entire" doctrine, huh? Is this a new doctrine? Or has it been around for quite a while and only you have it correctly? Not at all; I wouldn't presume. So.....who else espouses what you are? Your "doctrine?" You seem to be isolated in your belief. Actually, I had to research it. The facts are out there for anyone who cares to look. I suggest you do so. Yet there are a multitude of Biblical scholars who have never found what you are presenting. How come you are the only one to whom the Holy Spirit has revealed this "doctrine." Or do you belong to a congregation who believe as you do? Parker1, he mentioned he researched the facts. Attacking him in this manner is against the ToS. Try asking what references he could provide you so you can check it out yourself ... be a Berean! My questions were sincere. I'm sorry if you think that I am attacking him "in this manner." Perhaps if you could point out to me exactly where my attacks are, I can be more careful not to violate the TOS in the future. Otherwise....I see no trespass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
givennewname Posted February 2, 2009 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 14 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 324 Content Per Day: 0.05 Reputation: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 11/29/2007 Status: Offline Birthday: 03/16/1964 Share Posted February 2, 2009 Ok - sorry, I missed that. So that means Nebuchandnezzer's city should have been called "New Babylon", huh? More to the point, it means King N.'s Babylon doesn't play a role in biblical prophecy at all. See what happens when you make an assumption? An entire doctrine built on faulty data because someone forgot to check their facts. Why would God Give a prophecy about a Babylon that had already been destroyed before Isaiah and Jeremiah. Isaiah and Jeremiah are prophets, not historians. Isaiah lived from 758-698 BC. Babylon was destroyed in 689 BC. Nebuchednezzar was born in 630 BC and came to power in 605 BC. Those are statements of fact. How do you figure Babylon had been destroyed before Isaiah and Jeremiah? i gotta admit, this makes things a LOT less complicated. Hallelujah Man, where was it rded that Babylon was destroyed in 689 by Sennacherib? It is recorded that Sennacherrib was defeated in Judah and went home and was assasinated by hs son. How can Babylon be destryed to the level described by Isaiah and Jeremiah when it is stated in the Bible that king Hezekiah was ill and the Babylonian envoys visited him and was recieved warmly by Hezekiah and they were shown all Judah's riches.... Isaiah rebuked Hezekiah for his action? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
givennewname Posted February 2, 2009 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 14 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 324 Content Per Day: 0.05 Reputation: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 11/29/2007 Status: Offline Birthday: 03/16/1964 Share Posted February 2, 2009 Ok - sorry, I missed that. So that means Nebuchandnezzer's city should have been called "New Babylon", huh? More to the point, it means King N.'s Babylon doesn't play a role in biblical prophecy at all. See what happens when you make an assumption? An entire doctrine built on faulty data because someone forgot to check their facts. So, you are the only one in the world that caught this "forgetting to check their facts?" An "entire" doctrine, huh? Is this a new doctrine? Or has it been around for quite a while and only you have it correctly? Not at all; I wouldn't presume. So.....who else espouses what you are? Your "doctrine?" You seem to be isolated in your belief. Actually, I had to research it. The facts are out there for anyone who cares to look. I suggest you do so. Yet there are a multitude of Biblical scholars who have never found what you are presenting. How come you are the only one to whom the Holy Spirit has revealed this "doctrine." Or do you belong to a congregation who believe as you do? I agree man. If there are documented evidence please quote it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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