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What exactly is my description? I don't believe I put any restrictions on what an idol can be, so I guess we're in agreement. Now could you explain the difference? Au contraire mon frer! You keep stating that having a picture of Christ constitutes the worship of an Idol. You also appear to advocate that it is something that a man molds and shapes into an image. The follow the Spirit of the Law is to Love God and I believe that if Da Vinci felt that he was Loving God by imaging what he did on the ceiling of the Sistene Chapel which has inspired perhaps billions to also Love God then that is not Idolatry. It is Da Vinci expressing his Love for God in his finite nature. To commit Idolatry would be to bow down and worship something or someone other than God and to place that something or someone first in your life which is why God calls it harlotry. Let's take a step back since you're good at dodging questions that you don't want to answer. You never actually told us what the object of the Idol is. What does it represent? You also haven't yet expressed why God calls it Harlotry. Why is that?

Thankfulness and blessings in your life are wonderful to hear !!!! Don't worry about being a huge poster, GE I am sure is looking for the Holy Spirit to come upon the readers and give fruit to their spirit and to grow, and praise the Lord that it has done as such to you! God bless you! Yes Jacob that is exactly the idea. I praise God He has used this frail, failed, forgiven man to bless your life lorie. Re: posting - No worries lorie. Isn't God's Word awesome? I love reading it. It seems every time I read it there is something God wants to teach me if I just open up my heart to change and conform to Christ. Your post reminds me of another good passage that is a good challenge to me... James 1:19 Know this, my beloved brothers: let every person be quick to hear, slow to speak, slow to anger. More proverbs regarding listening… Prov. 19:27 Cease to hear instruction, my son {or daughter}, and you will stray from the words of knowledge. Prov. 19:20 Listen to advice and accept instruction, that you may gain wisdom in the future. Prov. 25:12 Like a gold ring or an ornament of gold is a wise reprover to a listening ear. There is also the comfort knowing that God is never late or early. He teaches us what He wills at just the right time. God bless, GE

The Navigaator does 4 things were really what I needed to hear! All the quotes from Proverbs were right on the money!!! Thanks, I am not a big poster, I more tend to read and learn because God speaks in many things that are written!

The gifts were never meant to make people into superstars or to be some sort of billboard to demonstrate that Christians aren't boring. There never would have been any gifts at all without God giving them out...although sometimes you might not know that the way some people emphasize them and compare them, teach on them and develop jealousy over another. Oh yeah, all those things happen and more. Further, far too many people seem to assess themself and determine that they are a prophet or teacher or worker or should lay hands on people and pray and prophesy over them... that is not the biblical pattern and much harm has come out of these practices. The op asked at the beginning of this thread where the prophets were. He asked that question as though it was the job of one or more individuals to turn America (or any country really) back from its sin. Has there EVER been a nation in which the gospel has been so available and in which so many churches have been built and in which the very airwaves of both radio and TV send that message out ? I'm asking, where are your EARS? Can't you see how perverted so much of Christianity has become today and the sideshow it has become until there is no respect left for those who call themselves Christian? And then you can read this thread and see the comments...the gifts were and are always will be until they are no more for the building up of the church..the Body of Christ...yet that body has used supernatural experiences to advertise for numbers to walk in the door and drop their money in the offering plates. If people would obey the Word they already have, both regarding sin and regarding how the gifts should operate, then God would honor all the words that are supposedly spoken in His favor. Let me know when that happens. I mean that in a way that would satisfy the question asked at the beginning of the thread. We seem to forget that we are the Body of Christ and that this is not Israel or Judah and there are no more OT prophets....seems we may all have agreed that prophets exist but not as Elijah or Samuel... although maybe before the Lord they do. Mike: (Seven)If someone does not recognize the difference between pursuing God and pursing gifts, they shall most likely achieve neither to any lasting good Too many people look to another person to receive from God what He has promised to those who love Him. It should not be like that. Too many people who believe they have one gift or another would not want the people they are ministering to, to be able to stand on their own two legs and receive from God rather than another person who is only filtering the Holy Spirit at best and that only when that person has clean hands and a pure heart. I know you just write about yourself Mike....so tell me, how do people grow and come into the fullness of Christ if they are in the lineup every Sunday morning and night and in line for every miracle meeting and always wanting wanting wanting and never getting enough because they get everything second hand and it never lasts? Do you think God gets fed up with it...because I think God gets fed up with it. It's like recycled pablum and it doesn't work and the proof that it does not work is the state of both your country and my country...which, let's face it, pretty much come under the same umbrella when it comes to the gospel and how that is presented and how people react. These are cold hard facts...yet, we say we believe that the Holy Spirit still operates today and does the things today that occurred when we read the book of Acts and beyond. I guess part of the answer is that everyone is so comfortable in their armchair, raising their arms and getting goosebumps, with the shades drawn, that it becomes a just me and Jesus party. I always ask, I always wonder....what happens AFTER the big hooplah? What are YOU (anyone) doing with all the Holy Spirit 'power' you say you felt in church or that special meeting? Do you think about these things Mike?

It represents the fact that we follow Christ in our home. It does not represent the Person of Christ. If that representation does not represent the person of Christ, who does it represent? It's made in the form of a man and you call it Jesus. Donkey's back in the pit! Hee Haw, (that's Lol in donkey...), there has to be a preach to be got out of this donkey in the pit thing.... Psalm 115 3 But our God is in heaven; He does whatever He pleases. 4 Their idols are silver and gold, The work of men’s hands. 5 They have mouths, but they do not speak; Eyes they have, but they do not see; 6 They have ears, but they do not hear; Noses they have, but they do not smell; 7 They have hands, but they do not handle; Feet they have, but they do not walk; Nor do they mutter through their throat. 8 Those who make them are like them; So is everyone who trusts in them.

By Christian Boone The Atlanta Journal-Constitution The Loganville mother of two assumed the knocks on her front door Friday afternoon were from a solicitor. “Don’t answer,” she yelled to her 9-year-old twins playing downstairs. When the visitor began repeatedly ringing the doorbell, she called her husband at work. “Get the kids and hide,” he told his wife. As he dialed 911, his 37-year-old spouse, who works from home, collected the children and hid with them in a crawlspace adjoining her office. By that time, the intruder had forced his way into the three-story residence on Henderson Ridge Drive with a crowbar, authorities said. He allegedly rummaged through the home, eventually working his way up to the attic office. “He opens the closet door and finds himself staring down the barrel of a .38 revolver,” said Walton County Sheriff Joe Chapman, who relayed the woman’s narrative to the Atlanta Journal-Constitution. He asked that her name be withheld. The woman fired six bullets, five of which hit Paul Ali Slater in the face and neck area, Chapman said. But Slater was still conscious. “The guy’s face down, crying,” the sheriff said. The woman told him to stay down or she’d shoot again. Slater, unaware that she had emptied her chamber, obliged as the mother and her children ran to a neighbor’s house. The injured burglar eventually made it out of the home and into his car, driving away before deputies arrived on the scene. He didn’t get far. “When you got five bullets in you, it makes you kind of disoriented,” Chapman told the AJC. Deputies found Slater bleeding profusely in a neighbor’s driveway. “I’m dying. Help me,” he told them, according to Chapman. Slater was transported to Gwinnett Medical Center and is expected to survive, the sheriff said. The Long Island native, who now lives in Gwinnett County, was released from the Gwinnett jail in late August after serving six months for simple battery and three counts of probation violation. Slater has six other arrests in Gwinnett dating back to 2008, according to jail records. “My wife’s a hero,” the woman’s husband, Donnie Herman, told Channel 2 Action News in a brief statement. He did not respond to a request for comment from the AJC. “She protected her kids. She did what she was supposed to do.” Chapman remarked that one of his deputies, impressed with the woman’s resolve, told the sheriff she had handled her first shooting better than he had. “That mother’s instinct kicked in,” Chapman said. “You go after a mother’s kids and she’ll find herself capable of doing things she never thought she was capable of.” http://www.ajc.com/n...gunshots/nTnGR/ Simple message: Don't mess with a Mom protecting her kids!

A box jellyfish has more backbone than Boehner. The man's worse than useless; he might was well put a D after his name and be done with it.

He'll fold like a cheap lawn chair, like he has every time, during the past 4 years.

If I speak in the tongues of men and of angels, but have not love, I am only a resounding gong or a clanging cymbal. I Cor 13:1 Love never fails. But where there are prophecies, they will cease; where there are tongues, they will be stilled; where there is knowledge, it will pass away. I Cor 13:8 Paul, who spoke in tongues more than anyone, by his own admittance, realized that all the gifts were a means to an end If someone does not recognize the difference between pursuing God and pursing gifts, they shall most likely achieve neither to any lasting good

I'll believe it when I see it!

Similarities, patterns and hierarchies are also traits of design, and so I don't think they "speak" themselves, but that someone else is doing the speaking for them. "Transitional" is also something that is spoken into the picture. If you took all the creatures that are alive today, in all their variations, and burried them under layers of sediment for a future generation to discover then they would also find "transitional" fossils, if that was what they were looking for. Something more. Biological evolution is hardly a point of contention in this debate. The context of what you quoted was strictly an argument for ID, so what Jesus said about flesh and spirit is irrelevant, as is what we traditionally label "supernatural". But even if we did bring flesh and spirit into the discussion, and assuming that the spiritual exists, we know as little about what spirit actually is as we do about gravity. It is assumed that gravity is an invisible force and has an effect on the physical universe. Spirit would, from an ID perspective would be the same thing with the difference that spirit would have an additional attribute that gravity seems to lack, namely intelligence. So is intelligence "religious"? Is it "supernatural"? If, as you pointed out, the physical realm does not have an effect on spirit then perhaps you could say that it is "supernatural", but from an ID perspective, we don't know whether that is true or not. And how did you reach the conclusion that I misunderstand Ruse? On the contrary, I not only understand him, I also agree with him. The "scientific" part of the ToE is not religion. What people do with the rest of it, and how much of it is exploited "religiously" is up to the individual. It is a very broad spectrum. I am also not so foolish as to believe that evolutionary scientists start off their day by lighting candles, kneeling before the alter of evolution and trying to cleverly figure out how to manipulate data so that it conforms to the ToE. However, most people reach a point in their lives where they decide to reject belief in a creator, which can grow to be more and more uncomfortable, and adopt the idea that everything develops over time, which similarly, can appear to be more appealing. It is from that point on that, consciously or subconsciously, they will interpret things in the light of the worldview they have adopted. I don't think it is as much a question of "design" as it is "intelligence". There creation of something that has the ability to process information and make decisions based on that information has never been observed in nature other than by procreation, whereas it has always been observed as the result of a higher intelligence. That doesn't address my point at all. Beating the drum for evolution and proclaiming its victories has absolutetly no value as long as we know that the religious motivations for opting one explanation against the other is stronger in this issue than any other scientific theory that mankind has ever known. What I asked you is what you would do if you were a creationist. What would you do if you saw that the foundations of the reigning paradigm, as "victorious" as it may seem, was predominately based on faith but being presented to the public as a scientific fact? What if all your attempts to question this theory only result in the same, worn-out "well, everyone else believes in it" kind of arguments and contemptuous ad-hominem remarks?